Against Christianity?

[no_leaf_clover]

Was there some era in history when the poor were better off than they are now? Were economic systems more merciful? So that not having any money wasn't as much of a hardship? You're not interested in solving the problem of poverty. You're interested in solving the problem of relative poverty, which is a jaundiced aspiration born of jealously.

The gap between the upper class and lower class is widening though, which is what caused a lot of that 'the economy is weakening' / 'no, it's actually stronger' stuff. A lot of jobs are being sent over seas.

http://www.newwork.com/Pages/Opinion/Raynor/Middle%20Class.html

Same thing happened to the French and sparked the French Revolution. More and more power to the elite few until finally the great majority of the country had virtually no power anymore. And money is power in America now whether people like it or not.

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/middleclass.html

Was there some era in history when the poor were better off than they are now?

Yes, relatively, as you said. A lot of really rich guys have more money than they can spend while others are dying homeless on the street, but this has been a problem for a while humanity has yet to rise above and solve as it relies on individual efforts in our current system, and people just don't care (doesn't mean we should give up on the idea yet, though).

The real problem is the distribution of power. And, maybe we'll have another real problem of a disappearing middle-class crisis as things get worse down the road. But America is really no longer a very representative democracy, and when it is, it's more because the government and western, Christian culture are shaping us, not the other way around as it should be.

A little off topic maybe..  

[Potential]

There is no jealousy here, only disgust.

The real problem is sex, as long as that is occurring, babies are being born, now-a-days people are having more and more. How does this effect everyone?

Back when my mom had a job, jobs were seeking people to employ and would pay them handsomely. Low supply, huge demand. Now-a-days the supply is high and the demand is low. Because of population increases.

There is a saying, "War benefits the economy", I can see how that works to reduce the population and jobs will be open.

Because of retirement issues a lot of companies will let the old go so they won't draw retirement. And they are replaced with younger people.

Another problem is advertising sex, to promote business. It's like the world is going to hell in a hand basket.

http://www.populationconnection.org/

[Isiah]

it is totally beyond me how anyone could get the idea that occult practices are condoned by christianity.
Its in scripture, if you want to see it, just ask. If you still want to beleive there's nothing wrong with it, you're going to have to find away around it, no prizes go to those who guess what it's gonna be ('the bible is false, jesus taught witchcraft and reincarnation').

[Gandalf]

Isiah.. i agree with you entirely, but we both draw different conclusion from it.

For you that means that you stick to what's in your holy book and dismiss everything else.. which is fine... no problem!

And for me it only confirms my own view that a lot of what's in the Christian bible is simply wrong, pure and simple. Written by men, for men who all had their own particular views and prejudices. Don't get me wrong, it provides a reasonable guide on how to live a good life alongside your fellow humans (provided it is viewed selectively of course.. a lot of it is nuts imv!). Fine if you want to be a part of that, but for me, it doesn't really cut any ice. On the bright side, such restrictions keep the riff-raff away from all the good stuff!


Doug

[spiritlife]

I am a Christian and I believe that Jesus Gave power to the individual,and taut that each person can have the same power as him. I see alot of Christians that that stick to there closed minded ways and are not spiritual in their quest whatsoever.Most Churches that I have dwelt with in these times are for the church not the individual. Thats Just my opinon. Anyone want to take a pole on how much it's worth? lol

[spiritlife]

oh btw I voted no, it does not

[paker7]

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