Was Jesus Gay?

[NoY]

This conversation/thread has gone exactly the way i expected it to 


you know what they say. if you ask a silly question you get a silly answer

:NoY:

[Summerlander]

I think we'll leave ether2 with his limiting beliefs. One day, perhaps, he/she will come to a greater understanding about the true nature of things in general.

ether2, you have just given me an accurate picture of the type of person you are and I realise that the more people give you useful pedagogical information, the more you will stick to your little water pistols. You don't even understand people's posts and you let your preconceptions cloud whatever you come across.

Good luck!

[ether2]

I think we'll leave ether2 with his limiting beliefs. One day, perhaps, he/she will come to a greater understanding about the true nature of things in general.

ether2, you have just given me an accurate picture of the type of person you are and I realise that the more people give you useful pedagogical information, the more you will stick to your little water pistols. You don't even understand people's posts and you let your preconceptions cloud whatever you come across.

Good luck!

thankyou very much much appreciated but you need ya luck for what ever venture you choose to study next as you are finished in this one...
you no see man as you are blinded by the light

good luck

love all

[Summerlander]

LOL! You're talking about Darina yeah? Don't worry...I've done these visits a few times before. They've always produced interesting results. Whether or not it helps her is beside the point. But an observation will be made. Hopefully this will again present what appears to be evidence of telepathy like the others. It remains to be seen. But you needn't be concerned with this now because you have already said it can't happen and therefore you have already firmly established that mental block in your head. Talk about being blinded by the light! Looks like you have been blinded by your "homosexuality creates paedophilia" light/idea from your so-called "Akashic Records"

[Lexy]

hay... peadophilia is a sick practise maybe you like it, i don't... i stop one gay or straight from going down that path it saves us energy which of course we could use that energy to save a life or more, it's simple math when ya understand how the economies of various processes work as a whole thoughts/actions etc it's generating side of things...don't argue it untill ya understand it

i must add if it makes them happy (gays) i'm not asking them to stop by any means but maybe it will help prevent it as it does use alot of energy to erradicate these peadophilies potential actions...as i said energy better else where, as it saves lifes man

how do ya know i'm a he... how at that stage in Osama B L topic did ya know i was ether...oh yeah don't bother answering this...no time to read
and what is more disturbing is your reply in O B L it went like """ether why do you keep deleting your account if you are not going anywhere"""
i never said anything to do with going anywhere here or on any site...
play dumb all ya like

normally i say good luck

love all

I never asked if Jesus was a pedophile. You didn't help anybody, you are only causing harm. Do you know how many gay kids kill themselves because ignorant people like you think being gay is something sick & criminal? Just because you had this bad experience doesn't mean it happens to everyone.

[Summerlander]

Homosexuality in my view is just as needed and relevant as heterosexuality. If everyone was straight the world would probably be overcrowded by now. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality, does not harm anyone if played safely. It is how people feel...it's their orientation and there is nothing wrong with it...

Paedophilia is a different story. Men or women who act upon their sexual feelings for children, regardless of whether they are gay or straight, are wrong for doing so because children are not ready for sexual affairs. Firstly, they can be easily influenced and, if abused, they may never be able to recover from the ordeal. They will have trust issues too. Adults are supposed to be responsible and protective of children, not take advantage of them to feed their twisted fantasies. Any adult who feels strongly attracted to children should talk to their GP about these feelings because they are harmful and lead you on a very dangerous road.

This is why paedophilia is a disease and homosexuality isn't. I'm surprised you didn't find this thought in your Akashic Records, ether2, since it is a thought shared by the majority and you said it yourself in your hypocritical statement that you will "support" it because:

however as i am very well disliked by those high profile gays that donot undertsand my reasons for disliking gays, i will support what ever makes people happy (gay area)

I mean, isn't the Akashic Records supposed to have every thought there?

[Stillwater]

10 seconds Wow we got people looking back how the universe was made billions of years ago

Yeah, but they are only looking back, and surmising from aparent data; if you could see ten seconds into the future- that would be a real skill. You would never be hit by a bus, get shot... would be an excellent sports player... you could win the lottery if you waited to the last minute, haha 

[ether2]

LOL! You're talking about Darina yeah? Don't worry...I've done these visits a few times before. They've always produced interesting results. Whether or not it helps her is beside the point. But an observation will be made. Hopefully this will again present what appears to be evidence of telepathy like the others. It remains to be seen. But you needn't be concerned with this now because you have already said it can't happen and therefore you have already firmly established that mental block in your head. Talk about being blinded by the light! Looks like you have been blinded by your "homosexuality creates paedophilia" light/idea from your so-called "Akashic Records"

maybe ya done it before on consent yeah...but it wont happen again...good to see ya still Lol
and me blinded by the light LOL...no see
but maybe you are one of the one's out soly in life at this point in time to erradicate the Akashic Records as those in the know that they are about to be bought down by the justice system with the use of these records and more

I never asked if Jesus was a pedophile. You didn't help anybody, you are only causing harm. Do you know how many gay kids kill themselves because ignorant people like you think being gay is something sick & criminal? Just because you had this bad experience doesn't mean it happens to everyone.

kids should not be in a gay relationship or any relationship, maybe you meant teenagers...fair comment i see what i can do as i'm sure you know with your supreme knowledge that in this area of suicide are lexy all controlled 100%...(Death Cycle) learn how this excrement works before ya comment...the only bad experience i have had from liveing is knowing these sicko's can effect the children in this way ...they don't anymore and then their is poverty etc

Homosexuality in my view is just as needed and relevant as heterosexuality. If everyone was straight the world would probably be overcrowded by now. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality, does not harm anyone if played safely. It is how people feel...it's their orientation and there is nothing wrong with it...

Paedophilia is a different story. Men or women who act upon their sexual feelings for children, regardless of whether they are gay or straight, are wrong for doing so because children are not ready for sexual affairs. Firstly, they can be easily influenced and, if abused, they may never be able to recover from the ordeal. They will have trust issues too. Adults are supposed to be responsible and protective of children, not take advantage of them to feed their twisted fantasies. Aningy adult who feels strongly attracted to children should talk to their GP about these feelings because they are harmful and lead you on a very dangerous road.

This is why paedophilia is a disease and homosexuality isn't. I'm surprised you didn't find this thought in your Akashic Records, ether2, since it is a thought shared by the majority and you said it yourself in your hypocritical statement that you will "support" it because:

I mean, isn't the Akashic Records supposed to have every thought there?

interesting but peadophilies and you try and police it that they have thoughts as such in twisted ways you try get'n them to the doctors about that... sexual fantasies are the most hardest to controll of anything
the only thing we have managed to do is stop them from acting in such manner
we have stopped the people at the front end of peadophilia from uploading these twisted pictures of children and im sure they are in the process of taking them down...they are not doin to good at the moment
and if you were up to date what is happening in the plains/realms i'm sure you would understand that in a small amount of time all people living will be shown (introduced if ya like) their Higherself/Spirit in a full awake conscious state...but you already knew that one ...the main reason being is for schooling as in a new way of thinking as a whole this will erradicate these types of problems...New World 2012...now if ya were not blinded to the truth in life ya can extend this new thinking process towards all other areras...then what one can argue is their is an economy around crime etc...yes...their is insurence etc...but because you are now learning and because you are starting to see...insight/water element...yes we have it all worked out how to run the new economy...from someone loosing a TV (house break in, insurence) to loosing 10,000 houses storm/earthquake etc (insurence/rebuilding=materials=mining and the like...it's call economy) see how smart we are we just have to change as it is all pretty well controlled anyway...the reason being is young seeker is that emotions=energy energy to run the world/s system/s...just like people raise energy to do what ever they do regarding the mind...this planet requires energy which of course is generated from the emotions we don't like fear/devastated and the like hence controlled in a way in most areas that effect our lifes...mostly for the energy and economy
we have a new way of reproducing/duplicating this energy without the emotions we don't like...cool hay...your welcome for the insight insight being the water element which as you kindly stated come from water pistols...

good luck

love all

[ether2]

Yeah, but they are only looking back, and surmising from aparent data; if you could see ten seconds into the future- that would be a real skill. You would never be hit by a bus, get shot... would be an excellent sports player... you could win the lottery if you waited to the last minute, haha 

hmmm...we have people looking forward as well at...car accidents (deaths) many days forward and other areas now, giving them something to do
lotto hay funny one that one ...i'll wait
you know to much

good luck

love all

[Lexy]

kids should not be in a gay relationship or any relationship, maybe you meant teenagers...fair comment i see what i can do as i'm sure you know with your supreme knowledge that in this area of suicide are lexy all controlled 100%...(Death Cycle) learn how this excrement works before ya comment...the only bad experience i have had from liveing is knowing these sicko's can effect the children in this way ...they don't anymore and then their is poverty etc

don't you know that kids are born gay?

[ether2]

don't you know that kids are born gay?

sorry ya got me...mmm...no ya did'nt because how many kids that take their own life kids i'm talking, by actually discussing this practise know of this practise (kids don't know exactly what happens in a sexual relationship)...or do they... with their friends in order to feel say left out so to speak and be in the position to take their own life...they are KIDS and are not consciously aware at that stage of their desires towards the same sex...i'm talking males, other reasons yes but how would you know they are were gay as i'm sure they are not active in this area prior to being active (gay)
females totally different for several reasons which just happen to the beginning of what ya could call motherhood it,s different i could explain it but it would take me ages because on this site most people donot again donot understand the cycle of life how it happens how it (thoughts generate) plays out becoming more one with all where it is like mothers intuition ya know what is happening hence love all
as ya know majority of mothers have intuition regarding the ones (kids) they love i could go on for ages about this but i'm not
ya have to unsderstand how this excrement works...it's all i do all day every day it's my job, as i wanted to some time ago have world peace and with my abilities of being able to annoy anyone (dont intrude) anywhere in the world, i soon learnt from presidents of countries etc (energy issues as ya would have read, earlier post) why at that stage we could not have world peace i now know how with others know how to sort this problem and other areas out...it's in progress
if ya got any insight/sight as to how we should go about this feel free to let me know

good luck

love all

[Lexy]

sorry ya got me...mmm...no ya did'nt because how many kids that take their own life kids i'm talking, by actually discussing this practise know of this practise (kids don't know exactly what happens in a sexual relationship)...or do they... with their friends in order to feel say left out so to speak and be in the position to take their own life...they are KIDS and are not consciously aware at that stage of their desires towards the same sex...i'm talking males, other reasons yes but how would you know they are were gay as i'm sure they are not active in this area prior to being active (gay)
females totally different for several reasons which just happen to the beginning of what ya could call motherhood it,s different i could explain it but it would take me ages because on this site most people donot again donot understand the cycle of life how it happens how it (thoughts generate) plays out becoming more one with all where it is like mothers intuition ya know what is happening hence love all
as ya know majority of mothers have intuition regarding the ones (kids) they love i could go on for ages about this but i'm not
ya have to unsderstand how this excrement works...it's all i do all day every day it's my job, as i wanted to some time ago have world peace and with my abilities of being able to annoy anyone (dont intrude) anywhere in the world, i soon learnt from presidents of countries etc (energy issues as ya would have read, earlier post) why at that stage we could not have world peace i now know how with others know how to sort this problem and other areas out...it's in progress
if ya got any insight/sight as to how we should go about this feel free to let me know

good luck

love all

here you go:

http://www.parenting.com/article/could-your-child-be-gay


"But bear in mind that kids as young as 9 begin to have crushes and perhaps physical feelings directed at other people, says Erika Pluhar, Ph.D., a sex therapist and educator in Atlanta. (There's a wide range, but children usually start to figure out whom they are attracted to between the ages of 9 and 12.) "

"Northwestern's Bailey has researched this area extensively, including whether these behaviors in children are predictive of homosexuality later in life. The bottom line? If a boy does many of the above-mentioned things -- playing dress-up, preferring social games to rougher ones, only wanting to hang out with girls, etc. -- and keeps doing them over a long period of time, it may be significant, says Bailey. "If they do it over and over, it's not a passing thing, and if they seek it out, then it's often predictive of homosexuality in adulthood in males," he says."


http://jezebel.com/5366812/gay-kids-coming-out-younger-but-parents-ask-how-do-you-know

"Part of this may have to do with the misconception that you have to have gay intercourse to be gay, or that homosexuality is somehow a more "sexual" orientation than heterosexuality. But Austin tells Denizet-Lewis,

"I knew I was different in second grade - I just didn't really put a name to it until I was 11. My parents said, 'How do you know what your sexuality is if you haven't had any sexual experiences?' I was like, 'Should I go and have one and then report back?'

[Summerlander]

 

And Lexy got that from earthly records...

[GodsProxy]

Of course Jesus did exist.
He added the most important of the commandments: "A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another."
Nobody at the time could understand the message he gave to us, so he had to encode everything in parables.
Today we have a better context for understanding what Jesus was really trying to say, but we need to use our common sense and not take the bible literally.
It says in Revelation, "he who overcometh" shall have a place it his right hand, at his dinner table.
He was not talking about overcoming common trials and tribulations. Back then people thought he was almighty, and would never have understood a message like, "Help, satan's in charge I need your help!"
Today the devil is in charge and we have Hell on Earth.

[Summerlander]

There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed. No real, concrete evidence. EVER!

[personalreality]

i agree summer.

anyone who thinks jesus was a real person needs to study the mystery traditions (of which christianity is a descendant).  jesus and his story is a retelling of the mystery tradition's story of the journey man takes toward reunification with the logos (jesus).  actually that's not the whole truth.  christians demonized women and removed one of the most important parts of the story, that of sophia, the counterpart of the logos.

[Rudolph]

There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed. No real, concrete evidence. EVER!

Not true.

Please see my reply on this thread; « Reply #25 on: May 10, 2011, 17:19:14 »

Of course one can always nit-pik about what constitutes 'concrete'. But using your line of thinking here, Summer, we may have to doubt that Socrates ever existed.

[Summerlander]

Show me the evidence, Rudolph...

[Rudolph]

Show me the evidence, Rudolph...

Easier done than said, almost   (this is an old discussion, just google "Josephus Jesus")


Josephus returned with Titus to Rome, where he was awarded for his service with a house and a pension. With time and resources, Josephus turned to writing of history. In the 70s, he wrote Jewish Wars, which provided a chronicle of the wars of the Jewish people. He thereafter in the 90s wrote a much broader history of the Jewish people, Jewish Antiquities.

Two References to Jesus

Josephus' writings cover a number of figures familiar to Bible readers. He discusses John the Baptist, James the brother of Jesus, Pontius Pilate, the Sadducees, the Sanhedrin, the High Priests, and the Pharisees. As for Jesus, there are two references to him in Antiquities. I will recount them in the order in which they appear.

First, in a section in Book 18 dealing with various actions of Pilate, the extant texts refer to Jesus and his ministry. This passage is known as the Testimonium Flavianum referred to hereafter as the "TF".

   Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ, and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians so named from him are not extinct at this day.

Jewish Antiquities 18.3.3

Second, in Book 20 there is what could be called a passing reference to Jesus in a paragraph describing the murder of Jesus' brother, James, at the hands of Ananus, the High Priest.

   But the younger Ananus who, as we said, received the high priesthood, was of a bold disposition and exceptionally daring; he followed the party of the Sadducees, who are severe in judgment above all the Jews, as we have already shown. As therefore Ananus was of such a disposition, he thought he had now a good opportunity, as Festus was now dead, and Albinus was still on the road; so he assembled a council of judges, and brought before it the brother of Jesus the so-called Christ, whose name was James, together with some others, and having accused them as lawbreakers, he delivered them over to be stoned.

Jewish Antiquities 20.9.1



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Here's another one from Tacitus, "Annals" 15.44


[...] Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated,...

[Summerlander]

Books...excerpts from here and there. I mean, it's been over two millenia, Rudy...Even if such a story is true that such a character existed, far too many embellishments would have been picked up in its travels over such a long period of time...evidently Christ's so-called miracles as a possible and very feasible distortion of the truth. Even today, so-called faith healers manage to deceive millions. Come on...you can't just expect me to believe that there was a Christ as they say. But hey...I'm calling you out on this one...make me believe as you do. Give me exactly what makes you believe. Give me that! Come on...hit me with it!

[Rudolph]

Books...excerpts from here and there. [...] Come on...you can't just expect me to believe that there was a Christ as they say. But hey...I'm calling you out on this one...make me believe as you do. Give me exactly what makes you believe. Give me that! Come on...hit me with it!

First you said there was no evidence of Jesus.

I showed that there was.

Now you talk about the Christ and miracles and belief. When you ask, "Give me exactly what makes you believe" what exactly do you think it is that I "believe"? What are you calling me out on?

[Summerlander]

Well...you believe that Jesus existed, don't you? But what you provided isn't real proof, is it?

[Rudolph]

Well...you believe that Jesus existed, don't you? But what you provided isn't real proof, is it?

Ohhhh... so now we are talking about "proof". ?

First you said there was "no evidence" and I replied that that was not true, because it is not true.

You asked for the evidence and I provided the evidence.

So now you ask why I believe Jesus existed?

That is not "belief" as in religious faith. That is a reasonable conclusion based on available data.

[Rudolph]

WAIT!!!

I found PROOF!

http://www.zazzle.com/and_god_said_maxwells_equations_tshirt-235628270699537542

[ether2]

There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed. No real, concrete evidence. EVER!

ya could say that about all the other profits as well Buddha/Krishna/Pacal etc included

good luck

love all