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« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2005, 13:45:15 »

people keep saying 'well you cant know either way'.

All I would say is instead of reading all about '2012' and 'demon wars' on dodgy websites and dubious 'researched' books... go and look at the *facts' ie look at what reputable archaeologists and historians have to say about the mayan calender, what it actualy refers to and what it doesnt...
You may be in for a slight letdown with regards to your apocalypse fantasies.. You see, I am one of the few who actually bothered to look into the reality of it.. and its not overly exciting... so yes, i can quite happily say that nothing is going to 'happen'...

I'm not going to bore you with the actual facts of the Mayan calender as its something you should read about yourself and those who are actualy interested will find out.. all those who base their info on dodgy websites and books are not going to be convinced so there is not much point as far as they are concerned!

In the end they will learn the hard way, as has happened so often in the past! But by then the 'apocalypse' torch will have passed to a new generation with an all new date to worry/fantasise about.

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« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2005, 16:51:20 »

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people keep saying 'well you cant know either way'.

All I would say is instead of reading all about '2012' and 'demon wars' on dodgy websites and dubious 'researched' books... go and look at the *facts' ie look at what reputable archaeologists and historians have to say about the mayan calender, what it actual refers to and what it doesnt...
You may be in for a slight letdown with regards to your apocalypse fantasies.. You see, I am one of the few who actually bothered to look into the reality of it.. and its not overly exciting... so yes, i can quite happily say that nothing is going to 'happen'...

I'm not going to bore you with the actual facts of the Mayan calender as its something you should read about yourself and those who are actualy interested will find out.. all those who base their info on dodgy websites and books are not going to be convinced so there is not much point as far as they are concerned!

In the end they will learn the hard way, as has happened so often in the past! But by then the 'apocalypse' torch will have passed to a new generation with an all new date to worry/fantasise about.

Douglas



I would appreciative if you posted the links that you found on the Mayan calender, I want to know more about the subject.

I don't think you can know either way, look at the all people that just died in the tsunami to them it would be an end or an transition on a mass scale.
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« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2005, 16:51:20 »

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« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2005, 17:08:46 »

What's wrong with the following information?:

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

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This has been my attempt to fill a vacuum in Mayan Studies, an answer to the why and how of the end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count. The solution requires a shift in how we think about the astronomy of the Long Count end date. The strange fact that it occurs on a winter solstice immediately points us to possible astronomical reasons, but they are not obvious. We also shouldn't forget the often mentioned fact that the 13-baktun cycle of some 5125 years is roughly 1/5th of a precessional cycle. This in itself should have been suggestive of a deeper mystery very early on. Only with the recent identification of the astronomical nature of the Sacred Tree has the puzzle revealed its fullness. And once again we are amazed at the sophistication and vision of the ancient New World astronomers, the decendants of whom still count the days and watch the skies in the remote outbacks of Guatemala.

This essay is not contrived upon sketchy evidence. It basically rests upon two facts:

1) the well known end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count, which is December 21st, 2012 A.D. and

2) the astronomical situation on that day. Based upon these two facts alone, the creators of the Long Count knew about and calculated the rate of precession over 2300 years ago. I can conceive of no other conclusion. To explain this away as "coincidence" would only obscure the issue.

For early Mesoamerican skywatchers, the slow approach of the winter solstice sun to the Sacred Tree was seen as a critical process, the culmination of which was surely worthy of being called 13.0.0.0.0, the end of a World Age. The channel would then be open through the winter solstice doorway, up the Sacred Tree, the Xibalba be , to the center of the churning heavens, the Heart of Sky.
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« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2005, 19:04:11 »

Why is it that people will chime in and tell there side with no links, proof and claim they are virtually all knowing?  It makes them look arrogant and ignorant.  My claims about 2012 stem from much research and information, whether people get off their behinds and search into it is another issue. And yes it does take time. Hearsay info is just that and if you are looking for a truth you need to dig in.

If you are going to make a claim back it with some evidence and facts, then people can come to their own conclusion, otherwise it is just hot air coming from one source.

Whether my claims on 2012 based on research, intuition and other avenues are correct are my own gut theories, but again they are based on much research from many different and diverse sources.

And no I don't know all and don't claim too, but the 2011,12,13 dates are very significant and the Mayans were extremely accurate mathematicians and astrologers, if you have extensive mathematics backgrounds and can the do proper calculations and understand astrology you will she how significant and accurate their systems are.  The Gregorian Calender the one every misinformed uses today is the one that is extremely flawed and does not follow any logic or proper astrological cycle. Leap year(LOL) 365, 31 days in some months, 28 days in other, 30 in others etc....... Challenge the current calendar and time system and you will see the truths. Basically if you set up your own standard of time you can control the masses, that is what the Gregorian calendar is it follows no cycles but it's own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_Calendar

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Do a search for Dreamspell story on Google.

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« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2005, 19:25:40 »

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people keep saying 'well you cant know either way'.

All I would say is instead of reading all about '2012' and 'demon wars' on dodgy websites and dubious 'researched' books... go and look at the *facts' ie look at what reputable archaeologists and historians have to say about the mayan calender, what it actualy refers to and what it doesnt...
You may be in for a slight letdown with regards to your apocalypse fantasies.. You see, I am one of the few who actually bothered to look into the reality of it.. and its not overly exciting... so yes, i can quite happily say that nothing is going to 'happen'...

I'm not going to bore you with the actual facts of the Mayan calender as its something you should read about yourself and those who are actualy interested will find out.. all those who base their info on dodgy websites and books are not going to be convinced so there is not much point as far as they are concerned!

In the end they will learn the hard way, as has happened so often in the past! But by then the 'apocalypse' torch will have passed to a new generation with an all new date to worry/fantasise about.

Douglas


Research for what might happen in the future is destructive in my opinion. Since you don't know what is going to happen it's fruitless and you can't really know if it will do any good or not.
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« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2005, 19:50:35 »

Dragon,

I will agree with you in part, but many here claim to be able to time travel by astral projection and see the future. What about them?

The future I believe is not set in stone, but with the path we are on now it appears something has to give.

In the past we didn't have the level of communication as today world wide and as we push forward in this unsustainable world industry, government and economy something is coming down the pipe quickly based on the amount of individuals in the world involved there days.

Whether it will be a good thing or bad thing I don't know, but so far things are aren't looking like they are going smoothly in our unsustainable world.  

The ethics and morals of people in high places, and power positions these days are in a state of disarray.  Everything appears to be a me me me agenda and those that enter the arena with good intention find they cannot buck the current system.  

I don't really have any answer to the current problems, but it doesn't take a time traveler, psychic, Mayans, or anyone else to tell us something is really out of wack world wide.  Look at the WMD world wide this is only one area.  

Previously in time we didn't have the destructive capabilities that we do today and we didn't have many different cultures and societies with these capabilities even 15 years ago, even though we had the madness, chaos and people controlling issues.

If we could get some kind of ET intervention I would hope it would be real soon, so this destructive path we are on is diverted.

And if you don't plan for a future of some sort and do the research what good will the future hold?

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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2005, 21:04:21 »

Whom said they travel into the future??

I'll say it again, this earth has had the same world wide problems from day one.  The world is constantly changing and men are constantly postering for domination.

And did I read your post right...."ET intervention"?  Ummmm..phone home type of thing?

So the answer is Aliens coming to our rescue?  Now I get it.

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« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2005, 21:29:03 »

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Whom said they travel into the future??

I'll say it again, this earth has had the same world wide problems from day one.  The world is constantly changing and men are constantly postering for domination.

And did I read your post right...."ET intervention"?  Ummmm..phone home type of thing?

So the answer is Aliens coming to our rescue?  Now I get it.

Nay


I guess you don't know what an ET is it can be anything from a little green guy to a Spirit guide you meet on the astral plan. ET means something other than humans.

I can see the level of understanding and knowledge of the some of the people on this board are lacking and very sarcastic.  Trying to bring knowledge to people with blind ignorance or a close mind is pointless.
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« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2005, 21:35:59 »

RT, I myself have viewed events in the past through projection. The future, however, is quite hazy. Anyone claiming to travel to the future through a projection is actually projecting into a possible future, and not necissarily the future we are going to see.

As for the state of the world, it is true that we have more destructive weapons, however, I would like to note that history shows us humanity is less aggressive today than it was in the past. At least we don't start wars simply because one small discourtesy in court occured on accident, or because a local shaman decided a christian priest didn't know what he was talking about.
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« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2005, 21:36:15 »

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Whom said they travel into the future??

I'll say it again, this earth has had the same world wide problems from day one.  The world is constantly changing and men are constantly postering for domination.

And did I read your post right...."ET intervention"?  Ummmm..phone home type of thing?

So the answer is Aliens coming to our rescue?  Now I get it.

Nay


I guess you don't know what an ET is it can be anything from a little green guy to a Spirit guide you meet on the astral plan. ET means something other than humans.

I can see the level of understanding and knowledge of the some of the people on this board are lacking and very sarcastic.  Trying to bring knowledge to people with blind ignorance or a close mind is pointless.


OH..please, practice what you preach.  And I'm sorry, I never thought a spirit guide was consider a ET.  I've only met one.....wait.... he was extra tall though...Hmmmmmmm.. rolleyes

I will however say I do have a ummmmm.... creative personality.  Cheesy  Sarcastic...Naaaahhhh

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« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2005, 22:20:20 »

I don't mean to come off angry because I am not, I just get a bit frustrated when people won't take a look in another direction.

I am always open to look at what the other person's point of view is as long as he can give me something solid to understand and not just because he said.

I am often guilty myself of forgetting to post links, facts or material so that others may see my point of view and then come up with their own.

I see people brainwashed and distracted by TV, video games, drugs, alcohol and wasting time living vicariously through others instead of living and finding truths out for themselves.  One person may not be able to solve the world problems but the world working together can.

I am frustrated these days because I do see the people at the top thinking that they are pulling the wool of the eyes of the masses and creating just enough chaos so that focus of the truth is offset.

Basically my belief about 2012 is that time as we know it will end and I don't mean the end of the world or destruction, but simply time itself and the system we know as money will also disappear.  

What will follow will be a golden age. People will not try to control each other but help and learn what we have forgotten.

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« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2005, 23:48:05 »

*deep breath*

Ok, I have googled, taking Gandalf's advice and frankly I was disappointed.  

Most of the sites were all bright neon and frilly with really large text "THE END IS NEAR" to get the people even more excited about the end of...of.....of something.  Heck on one site Unicorns was a topic.   (oh geez, did I just start another topic for debate?)

As I sit here and try and put into words why I think this is all a waste of energy and time, it occurs to me that on alot of these sites these people spend an extraordinary amount of time doing this "research".  

I think that is what shys me away from it all.  They seem so......desperate, alone and searching.  They spend all this time searching the net getting others opinions.  And the minute I start reading it, I feel such frantic feelings.  I can't explain it, it's not a good feeling I'll say that.

If all everyone wants is to hear me say...."ok, it's going to happen" well, then what?  

 Do we start talking about buying land some where and getting together to live this out?  How about food?  when this happens, are we going to have to kill our own food, or will there be any animals left for us to do that?  I want to know what I'm suppose to do when this happens.  Tell me.
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« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2005, 00:09:36 »

Hi Nay,
All the 2012 predictions aside for now, you asked some questions about what you should do.  Only you know, inside.

In two days, my lady and I are heading up into the mountains to follow the Insight, Seeing and directions we have both had individually for more than 20 years.

I've known about the need for me to build a Sanctuary since I was 15 (1975), and my lady has known about the need to build what she called Haven for about the same amount of time.

At the Akasha recently we saw the area we are to build this place, and saw the time-frame we have to do it in.  Which is why we are going up to look for the land now.

No one can convince you of anything, and I know you to be a lovely, caring, knowledge-able, understanding human being.  If you are meant to do something about it then you will when the Timing is perfect, otherwise you will not.  And when the time comes you will know what to do.

For now, I see no reason to worry about what hasn't come yet.  I see no reason to think, we need to stock food and water,etc.. as so many others have been doing now for more than 30 years.

Now we need to only work on our awareness.  Work on how we deal with detractors.  Work on clearing our own connections to spirit, etc.

Lastly, instead of worrying or even being concerned about possibilities and probabilities, we should be interested in Now.  Living it now, being aware in the moment of our surroundings and enjoying what we can.

No-one truly knows the hour, or if that Hour will even arrive !!  So eat, be merry, love, and be aware for when/if the time comes.

Love Always.
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« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2005, 00:29:42 »

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All the 2012 predictions aside for now, you asked some questions about what you should do. Only you know, inside.


I've been trying that, but being told I'm a rude know it all.

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No one can convince you of anything, and I know you to be a lovely, caring, knowledge-able, understanding human being. If you are meant to do something about it then you will when the Timing is perfect, otherwise you will not. And when the time comes you will know what to do.


Thank you very much for the lovely, caring and knowledgable human being part but you got me paranoid.....that was clever.  Almost reversed psychology..."don't worry, this time around you won't make it, but hey there is your next life"..of course that is paraphased..Tongue

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Now we need to only work on our awareness. Work on how we deal with detractors. Work on clearing our own connections to spirit, etc.


I know you haven't been privy to my most private problems, but I do believe I have my own awarness and spirit connections..albeit slow connections..lol

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Lastly, instead of worrying or even being concerned about possibilities and probabilities, we should be interested in Now. Living it now, being aware in the moment of our surroundings and enjoying what we can. No-one truly knows the hour, or if that Hour will even arrive !!  So eat, be merry, love, and be aware for when/if the time comes
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Forgive me for a second, (cover you ears)  ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRghhhhhhhhhhhhhh..haven't I been saying that?Huh

Hugs~ Nay
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« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2005, 03:14:15 »

Hi Nay,
I know....  you have been saying Live Now... all along.  And I repeated it with one addition..  to be aware of our surroundings. Important that one.

It's quite a difficult time right now isn't it ?  

LOL at paraphrased no to worry about it coz there is the next life.... I didn't actually mean it like that, but it is one way of looking at it.

About clearing our personal connections with Spirit....  it is so important right now.  I'm even thinking it is more important for each person to stand in what has been proven to them by their connection with Spirit, and totally disregard most of what others say, as we head into deeper doo-doo times.

So many false prophets abound in the world for now, each with their own agendas, and so too in the astral realms.  Even here at AP !!    

Many want to convert people to their way, as if it is the end days approaching...  so much Indoctrinated, dogmatic, believe at all costs types of approaches...  too much for the average Joe Bloggs to sift through.

All we need to do really, is allow ourselves to grow in the ways that work for us, even if no one else agrees with it...  coz hay... who is to say who is right and who is wrong ?  Certainly no human alive today !

Don't let me get you paranoid.....  I may throw some facts here or there occasionally about things that are happening, other times I might add bits and pieces I have heard, if it resonates, and the rest of the time I am busy as hell trying to get through every day as it comes.   And, surviving it in a mentally stable way....and umm... I don't think I am succeeding right now !!

Thanks for being you Nay
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« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2005, 03:29:28 »

Nay, you just totally ignored my last post which had a link to a link to a decent site with good information and posted right after it agreeing with Gandalf and saying all the sites are pretty much bs. I'll post it again. If this information is wrong mathematically, scientifically, or historically wrong, I'm really interested in your corrections.

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What's wrong with the following information?:

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

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Summary

This has been my attempt to fill a vacuum in Mayan Studies, an answer to the why and how of the end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count. The solution requires a shift in how we think about the astronomy of the Long Count end date. The strange fact that it occurs on a winter solstice immediately points us to possible astronomical reasons, but they are not obvious. We also shouldn't forget the often mentioned fact that the 13-baktun cycle of some 5125 years is roughly 1/5th of a precessional cycle. This in itself should have been suggestive of a deeper mystery very early on. Only with the recent identification of the astronomical nature of the Sacred Tree has the puzzle revealed its fullness. And once again we are amazed at the sophistication and vision of the ancient New World astronomers, the decendants of whom still count the days and watch the skies in the remote outbacks of Guatemala.

This essay is not contrived upon sketchy evidence. It basically rests upon two facts:

1) the well known end date of the 13-baktun cycle of the Mayan Long Count, which is December 21st, 2012 A.D. and

2) the astronomical situation on that day. Based upon these two facts alone, the creators of the Long Count knew about and calculated the rate of precession over 2300 years ago. I can conceive of no other conclusion. To explain this away as "coincidence" would only obscure the issue.

For early Mesoamerican skywatchers, the slow approach of the winter solstice sun to the Sacred Tree was seen as a critical process, the culmination of which was surely worthy of being called 13.0.0.0.0, the end of a World Age. The channel would then be open through the winter solstice doorway, up the Sacred Tree, the Xibalba be , to the center of the churning heavens, the Heart of Sky.





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Do we start talking about buying land some where and getting together to live this out? How about food? when this happens, are we going to have to kill our own food, or will there be any animals left for us to do that? I want to know what I'm suppose to do when this happens. Tell me.


lol... This is pretty much what I've been planning for a couple years now, for numerous reasons. Living in a small community in the mountains off of the wild is actually really appealing to me and the other guys that are going after college. Getting back in touch with nature.  Cheesy
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« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2005, 04:36:49 »

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lol... This is pretty much what I've been planning for a couple years now, for numerous reasons. Living in a small community in the mountains off of the wild is actually really appealing to me and the other guys that are going after college. Getting back in touch with nature.  Cheesy


Actually I have already done this, bought a 50 acres and I am in the slow process of building an earth home on the land (cause of money).  It will be a cottage until our transition date, if I build it will be symbiotic with nature. I am not in the mountains but near some great fresh bodies of water, even though I love the mountains.  

Earth homes can be build extremely cheap and are much stronger and efficient than conventional stick building.

Clover your link was exactly what I am talking about. Thanks.

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« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2005, 14:39:23 »

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Well Chimerea, I suppose for the same reason you felt necessary to post what you just posted.. Smiley  

You could have done exactly what you are asking me to do, don't read or post anything..  what made YOU do it?  I'm pretty sure you'll have the answer you seek when you ponder on it awhile.


Nay,

I'm sure you're right -- I just can't GET it.


This is an issue that I have been circling for months now -- and not just on Astral Pulse.  It keeps popping up in different aspects of my life.

It's my nature to be quiet.  It's not part of my makeup to usually need to speak things out to learn them.  I HAVE been pondering this -- actually, here in Cow Country we call it "ruminating" -- but I'm chasing my tail.

There are issues that block my growth that I can't work out by myself.  Usually -- like this one -- I get most totally blocked when I recognize all kinds of acceptable "answers" that cover most instances, but miss something key.

With those, I find I have to "put the ball in play" and get the idea knocked around a bit.  I usually select people I feel are teachers or experts in the area I'm trying to explore -- people where the many answers just don't cover it.

I had hoped that the answer was going to be that as a moderator this was your job.  

My linear mind firmly believes that it's very simple -- groups have individuals who police ideas and punish those who are outside the sigma bands in order to protect group cohesion.

My non-linear mind thinks the linear part of me is a "poor baboo" that completely misses everything of importance.

I know this is a personal issue of mine that indicates a growth gateway.  It's nobody's problem but mine.  I have found a number of generous people out here on AP with the skill to work through the changes.

Safe journey and thanks,
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« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2005, 06:07:18 »

We leave tonight to go to the Mountains, to find the land we are meant to build a Sanctuary on.   I'll be away for a few days or so.

Lastly, has anyone else noticed the total lack of earthquake activity in the normally highly active areas of the world, since the magnitude 9 that caused the Tsunamis ?  

Hmmm, Interesting...maybe something largish to come soon in either Turkey, Afghanistan, Japan or New Zealand...  maybe.

Be well everyone, I'll post about the trip to the mountains when I get back.

Love Always.
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« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2005, 09:36:41 »

If a magnetic pole shift does happen anytime in my lifetime-unless either I or someone who loves me enough invents a nice FTL spacecraft. OR I or someone who loves me is the world's greatest wizard/mage etc-I think I'm pretty much toast. So like nuclear disaster or similar I'm not going to even consider it worth worrying about. Unless there is something real that I can actually do at that time to get myself and the people I care about away to safety.  
To me that safety doesn't mean to survive barely for the years afterwards in an impoverished state either.
So for me this is another reason not to worry about 2012 predictions and similar stuff. It's irrelevent to me. I can't stop it if it's gonna happen. I don't believe the things myself. too many doomsday dates come and go. Nothing happens. smiley
The sanctuary sounds like a great fun idea in itself Tayesin. Could be a wonderful spiritual retreat in it's own right.
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« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2005, 14:40:35 »

Having a sanctuary sounds like an interesting and adventorous idea to me as well, however I would suggest that it also be made with other interests in mind in case these prophecies don't pan out.  If the events in 2012 don't happen, it should have other functions so as not to put its makers in debt.
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« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2005, 17:15:15 »

Everyone knows that on 6/06/06 the antichrist will be born, and that in the year 2012 he will be 6 years old. And anyone that knows a 6-year-old child also knows that *any* 6-year-old with superhuman powers is going to wreak havoc...

Seriously, though, if you take the time to look up the reason for the 2012 date on the ancient calendar (and you don't exclusively look in the New Age section), you find it's far less doomsday than popular craze goes on about.
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Seriously, though, if you take the time to look up the reason for the 2012 date on the ancient calendar (and you don't exclusively look in the New Age section), you find it's far less doomsday than popular craze goes on about.


Who said anything about doomsday? Life will most certainly go on no matter what happens. The Mayans did see 2012 as the start of something new, though, which it is. Sort of like a big celestial 'new year'. Once again
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html  seems to have pretty sound information, no matter what genre you throw it into.

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Having a sanctuary sounds like an interesting and adventorous idea to me as well, however I would suggest that it also be made with other interests in mind in case these prophecies don't pan out. If the events injavascript:bbstyle(-1)
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Yeah, I wouldn't plan things solely on possible future events either.

Something about living in the wild appeals to me either way, though. When I talk about it with friends, we don't even have that sort of stuff in mind. It's all about the freedom and peace living among nature. Takes some research, though. It seems it would be easy to starve, especially in the last months of winter before spring finally arrives. Helps to research edible wild foods, storage methods, and Native American methods of survival. Shelter really isn't a problem today with all the high quality tents and sleeping bags in production, as well as heavily insulated clothing. You can even take different kinds of portable power generators to capacitate a few technological luxuries if you want. Food is the only thing that isn't so easily covered in the wild if you don't know where to get it. But imagine how nice it would be out there  Cool
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« Reply #73 on: January 08, 2005, 03:40:36 »

Another link.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Year_2012/id/1683
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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=79567

Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in
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Title: Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in
Source: India Daily
URL Source: http://216.132.172.70/indiadaily/editorial/12-26-04.asp
Published: Dec 27, 2004
Author: N.K. Subramanium
Post Date: 2004-12-27 11:33:39 by Julian the Apostate
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Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in 2012 N.K. Subramanium, Special Correspondent December 26, 2004

Remote viewing is nothing new in Tibetan monasteries. For thousands of years remote viewing in the middle of other spiritual activities have dominated Tibetan culture. What some Indian tourists came to learn from a few Tibetan monasteries under the current Chinese rule is extremely alarming and fascinating.

According to these tourists remote viewers are seeing world powers in the course of self-destruction. They also see that the world will not be destroyed. Between now and 2012 the world super powers will continue to engage in regional wars. Terrorism and covert war will be the main problem. In world politics something will happen in and around 2010. At that time the world powers will threaten to destroy each other.

Between 2010 and 2012, the whole world will get polarized and prepare for the ultimate dooms day. Heavy political maneuvers and negotiations will take place with little progress.

In 2012, the world will start plunging into a total destructive nuclear war.

And at that time something remarkable will happen, says, Buddhist monk of Tibet. Supernatural divine powers will intervene. The destiny of the world is not to self-destruct at this time.

Scientific interpretation of the monks’ statements makes it evident that the Extra Terrestrial powers are watching us every step of the way. They will intervene in 2012 and save the world from self-destruction.

When asked about recent UFO sightings in India and China, the monks smiled and said the divine powers are watching us all. Mankind cannot and will not be allowed to alter the future to that great extent.

Every human being though their current acts in life called “Karma” can alter the future lives to some extent, but changing the destiny in that large extent will not be allowed to that great an extent.

Monks also mentioned that beyond 2012 our current civilization would understand that the final frontier of science and technology is in area of spirituality and not material physics and chemistry. Beyond 2012, out technologies will take a different direction. People will learn the essence of spirituality, the relation between body and the soul, the reincarnation and the fact we are connected with each other are all part of “God”.

In India and China UFO sightings have increased in many folds. Many say the Chinese and Indian Governments are being contacted by the Extra Terrestrials.

In recent days most UFO activities have been seen in those countries who have indigenously developed Nuke capabilities.

When asked if these extra-terrestrials will show up in reality in 2012, the answers remote viewers are giving is: they will reveal themselves in such a way that none of us scared. They will reveal themselves only if they have to. As our science and technology progresses, we are destined to see them and interact with them any way.

According to the remote viewers, our earth is blessed and is being saved continuously from all kinds of hazards all the time that we are not even aware of. As our technologies progress we will realize how external forces saved us.
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