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Are there any proofs about tk?

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Kazbadan

If TK (telekinesis) its real, it wont be difficult to prove such thing o the world. Just take out some guy with tk powers and make him moving objects.

Why the hell i dont see any team studying this guys with tkpowers?

Maybe there are not tk powers.

Dont speak about Uri Geller in this discussion, because that will give us an entire new topic to discuss.

Just wanna hear you speaking about your ideas on this matter: recent news and discovers, lyars, etc

btw, do you believe in tk? have you ever maked something that it was caused by tk (with almost 100% sure)?
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Swarooptheone

TK was in wide use in ancient battles by prehistoric advanced civilizations in India

Today, TK is practised by very few people.

And, occasionally, Aliens from Z.Reticulii star system ( better known as the 'greys') use TK to lift abductees
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Tom

Is it possible that there is something about having enough power and control to do telekinesis that proving it to everyone else would be like trying to show cats and dogs how to brew coffee?

Kazbadan

lol!

You are somehow right Tom.

People are slow to open their minds to this kind of things, and even if they believe in their existence, they will look at it as a weird thing or as nice thing to see in TV.
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Smilodon29A

It only matters what you believe in, not what anyone else does.

I my self always thought that everything regarded as paranormal is possible. I just didn't know I could learn some of the things.

And here is the reason why I believe:

Humans use less than 10% of the brain. Scientist do not know how the brain works. So if you ask me ... it is all possible (ap, tk and the rest),
and the people whom can do it, have thought to use that part of the brain.
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jason

Quote from: SwarooptheoneTK was in wide use in ancient battles by prehistoric advanced civilizations in India

Today, TK is practised by very few people.

And, occasionally, Aliens from Z.Reticulii star system ( better known as the 'greys') use TK to lift abductees

That's fascinating.It seems that more research is needed into TK if we are to reclaim it as a "lost" ability.
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Telos

Quote from: SwarooptheoneTK was in wide use in ancient battles by prehistoric advanced civilizations in India...

Source?

jason

Quote from: Telos
Quote from: SwarooptheoneTK was in wide use in ancient battles by prehistoric advanced civilizations in India...

Source?

a fine question-I was afraid to ask :lol:
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Kazbadan

That one about India its interesting...where did you get that?

btw, are there any guys here able to move small objects?

Do you think that with training its possible?
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Veccolo

Quote from: Smilodon29AHumans use less than 10% of the brain.

That's not true.
I don't do much, and I do it well.

beavis

Its much harder to show TK than to do it alone (or with 1 or 2 people watching) because a big group of people pollutes the psychic energy in a wide area around them.

Quantitativefool

I've noticed that seems to be true and I'm very unexperienced at it. But when trying to show a single friend like a psi-wheel demonstration(under a plastic container) I can get some movement. But when I tried that on a band trip I could get nothing with the larger amount of people.

-Stu

Leannain

Quote from: SwarooptheoneTK was in wide use in ancient battles by prehistoric advanced civilizations in India

Today, TK is practiced by very few people.

And, occasionally, Aliens from Z.Reticulii star system ( better known as the 'Grey's') use TK to lift abductees


proofs of that?

Kazbadan

QuantitativeFool: can you see your psi balls? If not, what kind of thing can you do with them, that show their existence?
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Nostic

Quote from: Veccolo
Quote from: Smilodon29AHumans use less than 10% of the brain.

That's not true.

Well, don't keep us in suspense... tell us the truth.


Nostic

Quote from: Telos
QuoteWell, don't keep us in suspense... tell us the truth.

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=000B077E-AD46-1047-AD4683414B7F0000
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/10-percent-myth.htm
http://www.brainconnection.com/topics/?main=fa/brain-myth
http://www.sci-con.org/articles/20040901.html
http://tafkac.org/science/10_percent_of_brain.html
http://www.csicop.org/si/9903/ten-percent-myth.html
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_4_24/ai_63693010
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/03/21/do_we_really_use_jus.html
http://www.unmuseum.org/soearch/over0102.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2004/oct/30/brain_use.htm
http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/9X/04714349/047143499X.pdf

I'll stop there... maybe this should be in a different thread?

If you don't read any of the others, read the CSICOP one, so you are at least conversant with skeptics.

Interesting... I do understand where you're coming from, in that so often people will just parrot information that they've heard just because it sounds good or whatever. However what you have provided me with (I looked at 2 of the links) are arguments, not the truth... but I assume you know that?

Perhaps I should have been more blunt with my previous response?

Telos

Psh, Nostic, if you want essential truth, the internet is the wrong place to look, and that includes this forum... but I assume you know that? :)

My father often tells me, "a myth is a story that is true," in the sense that the story is a fabrication but based on some kind of true essence, no matter how far removed from context. In that sense, the truth is that the statement, "we only use 10% of our brains" is a complete myth.

If you're interested, you should click on more than 2 of those links. ;)

Nostic

Quote from: TelosPsh, Nostic, if you want essential truth, the internet is the wrong place to look, and that includes this forum... but I assume you know that? :)

My father often tells me, "a myth is a story that is true," in the sense that the story is a fabrication but based on some kind of true essence, no matter how far removed from context. In that sense, the truth is that the statement, "we only use 10% of our brains" is a complete myth.

If you're interested, you should click on more than 2 of those links. ;)

Meh, good enough, I suppose.   :)

patapouf

Example:

QuoteWith the aid of instruments such as EEGs, magnetoencephalographs, PET scanners and functional MRI machines, researchers have succeeded in localizing a vast number of psychological functions to specific centers and systems in the brain.

I just need some things to clarify me in relation with the 10% ''brain usage''. There is a difference between ''potentiality'' and ''physical usage'' of the brain. They relate the myth to physical usage of the brain and it is not surprising that they find out that we use more than 10% of the brains physical mass.

Are they mixing two different hypotheses? As an analogy, lets take the motor of a car: you may go at 20 km/h and you use all the cylinders of your car but you have the possibility to go at 200 km/h also (which is the full potential of that particular car). You do not use only one cylinder because you go slower.... Maybe I'm mixing things up in a wrong way so if somebody can clarify this stuff, it will help a lot.

Nostic

Quote from: patapoufExample:

QuoteWith the aid of instruments such as EEGs, magnetoencephalographs, PET scanners and functional MRI machines, researchers have succeeded in localizing a vast number of psychological functions to specific centers and systems in the brain.

I just need some things to clarify me in relation with the 10% ''brain usage''. There is a difference between ''potentiality'' and ''physical usage'' of the brain. They relate the myth to physical usage of the brain and it is not surprising that they find out that we use more than 10% of the brains physical mass.

Are they mixing two different hypotheses? As an analogy, lets take the motor of a car: you may go at 20 km/h and you use all the cylinders of your car but you have the possibility to go at 200 km/h also (which is the full potential of that particular car). You do not use only one cylinder because you go slower.... Maybe I'm mixing things up in a wrong way so if somebody can clarify this stuff, it will help a lot.

Point blank, the answer is very unclear. Viewed scientifically, I guess you could say, based on what we know at this time through the usage of  modern technology, we do in fact use 100% of our brain. Science is always correcting itself however, because it's only based on limited information. When talking about such things, I'm more apt to believe the spiritualist, although I take nothing for granted, and don't necessarily believe that we only use 10% of the brain. All of this talk is so technical though. The bigger meaning of the 10% "myth" is that we have a potential that is far greater than what we might imagine. I think people innately know this (dare I say, on a subconscious level), and that's why the 10% story is so easy to believe.

Nostic

Quote from: patapoufExample:

QuoteWith the aid of instruments such as EEGs, magnetoencephalographs, PET scanners and functional MRI machines, researchers have succeeded in localizing a vast number of psychological functions to specific centers and systems in the brain.

I just need some things to clarify me in relation with the 10% ''brain usage''. There is a difference between ''potentiality'' and ''physical usage'' of the brain. They relate the myth to physical usage of the brain and it is not surprising that they find out that we use more than 10% of the brains physical mass.

Are they mixing two different hypotheses? As an analogy, lets take the motor of a car: you may go at 20 km/h and you use all the cylinders of your car but you have the possibility to go at 200 km/h also (which is the full potential of that particular car). You do not use only one cylinder because you go slower.... Maybe I'm mixing things up in a wrong way so if somebody can clarify this stuff, it will help a lot.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I believe that you've touched upon a significant point. I think science is talking about what is, and spiritual teachers are talking about what could be. In other words, you might say, right now we are using our capacity, but can't our capacity increase? I think there is a very basic misunderstanding here. Can we say that our current capacity is only 10% of what our ultimate capacity could be? Well I believe our capacity is unlimited, but I can see the point that's being made.

Ybom

Well, usage and capacity are 2 same differences. They are similes if used properly. I think a good 'different' word is 'potential'.

So we are at 10% of our potential latent abilities according to science, not storage capacity or normal day to day use (which is at 100% obviously). Just remember though, a spiritual leader would turn that logic on a dime and say we have unlimited potential. Bah, who to (dis)believe? Both are believable! Grrr. Ok fine I believe both then ^^
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Nostic

QuoteWell, usage and capacity are 2 same differences. They are similes if used properly. I think a good 'different' word is 'potential'.

Potential capacity was my point. :wink:
What that could be is anyones guess. The point I was making is that I believe science and spirituality are looking at the issue from different perspectives (surprising huh?), so they are bound to disagree. Of course it's all the same thing really, but when has that ever stopped people from arguing? It's just a play on words.

QuoteSo we are at 10% of our potential latent abilities according to science

Science says something about our potential abilities? or is that a type-o?

Getting back to the car analogy though. Maybe an even simpler way to look at it is the following: imagine playing a game, or trying to perfect some skill. As a novice, you'll probably use the same tools as you'll use when you're an expert (weather it's your body or whatever). But what has changed? The raw material has stayed the same, and at every stage of your practice, you used everything you had... but you still improved.

Smilodon29A

Well obviously I did make a mistake about the 10% brain usage.
Sorry guys.

But just to state I did not just blurt out that information, my teachers thought me that a few years back, I just never checked if it is true.

And I also believe that our capacity is limitless....

"The greatest illusion is that mankind has limitations." - Robert Monroe

Well I fully believe that.
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