Positive And Negative Consequences Of What Is Happening On 2020 In This World

[PhaPriSpa]

Positive And Negative Consequences Of What Is Happening On 2020 In This World

(Note: Would be nice if you can also share your personal opinions about the Positive and Negative elements that are resultant of this situation in the present day and in the projected future).

I won't enter (for now) in details regarding the deceiving nature of what is happening in 2020. Experts in various fields and many persons that dedicate their lives to analyze this things are reporting many of the anomalies in what is happening and how their efforts to alert the population are being stopped by those behind the deceit (exactly how occurred in September of 2001 and the years after that when it was proven all the lies behind those events very similar in effects and fear to the current events happening this year).

Some of them can be consulted in the following links; many of the information is in Spanish because that is my native language and I've been following much of this in Spanish and also many Solutions are coming from Spanish speaking countries (you can use English subtitles on videos when available and also use Google Translate to read in English a translation of pages); many other solutions are coming from English and other language speaking countries as well.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/consequences_of_consciousness_awakening_awaking_to_the_truth-t46935.0.html;msg374271#msg374271

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/consequences_of_consciousness_awakening_awaking_to_the_truth-t46935.50.html

Since before the fake/deceiving Pandemic (as evidenced by Professionals of the Medic sector all over the world), I've been implementing many of the things that are being imposed over people, like wearing a mask to try and prevent getting infected of respiratory diseases (like flu) from those that are infected and cough without wearing a mask, also like having good cleaning habits (washing hands for example), also not touching face with dirty hands, also getting cleaned when coming from the street and performing activities inside home, staying at home and teleworking, not getting in crowded places (I usually stay in the door or outside as crowded places are hot and also filled with persons coughing and infecting others with flu and other respiratory diseases), and many other things that are currently seen this days, so it is like watching Myself in many of the people/persons currently imposed with these restrictions or implementing them for Fear of Dying by a disease that is very curable (even when the Bad Persons/People are trying to make it look as very deadly); that has been a personal choice, not imposed, and watching the many of the population performing many of this because of Imposed Fear as a result of wrong information regarding a respiratory disease and feed by the Media counting deaths and infected persons, many (most) of whom are being reported as infected when Not, is very curious as they are doing what I've been doing but more in an extremely more exaggerated way. Because of the previous explanation you'll find the why's of many of my Positive Consequences of what is going on (my personal opinion, you can share your Positive and Negative opinions as well, that is the idea of this Topic).

Below, are some of my personal opinions about the Positive and Negative Consequences of what is happening and what is projected to happen in the future.


POSITIVE

- People are implementing good cleaning habits (like washing and cleaning their hands with soap and water and also with alcohol based liquids) and in the case of companies are being required to take special care in preparing and handling food, so people are getting cleaner food and services. This will control the transmission of many virus and bacteria, resulting of wrong cleaning rules/habits.

- People that are Sick of Flu and other respiratory diseases, are finally using a mask that restricts (somehow) the infected fluids, and also are being reported when not wearing a mask when they are sick of flu or other respiratory disease.

- People are not being forced to work with respiratory diseases that will surely contaminate other persons that have contact with the sick person. This is good as the correct thing is that they stay at home to recover soon and only then go back to work; in the past the company owners abused of the necessity of a person to go to work sick fearing loosing his/her job otherwise.

- People are keeping a distance, and many public places are not very crowded (at least inside the offices and closed places), and is more comfortable inside offices and closed places. That's my personal liking, others might feel comfortable in crowded places in very close proximity with other people (not me).

- This is a necessary global (countries and all the world) exercise to respond and handle a Pandemic. It is necessary to do it as is necessary to do simulations in Companies and in Residential Homes/Buildings, to handle emergency situations. They are calibrating the way to respond to a Real Pandemic (in each region, country, continent, and also the whole world), and realizing the weaknesses of the systems to deal with this kind of situations.

- The under skin chip that is going to be implemented has the interesting potential to control many criminal activities that are currently not possible to be even detected, as every citizen that has a chip is monitored constantly and any citizen (from this world and who knows maybe a unregistered visitor from another world or place) not wearing a chip can be detected and intercepted to confront his/her intentions and stopped from interacting with the rest of the registered population. (This topic has also Negative elements that are listed in the Negative section below).

- This One is Going to be Controversial as is Positive and Negative at the same time: Control of the Natality if going to be implemented in the Population with the Vaccines that are going to be imposed over them. People by themselves, specially when in high levels of Ignorance (closer to the levels of Animals), won't control their Natality and will even Oppose to control it when offered to do it (if they can't sustain a child then they should not be allowed to procreate it, that's my personal opinion, and also when persons have procreated a child they should be sterilized and prevented from procreating another one so that the population doesn't grow without control as that is the source of many criminality and delinquency in civilization). This by itself is an interesting topic and it would be interesting to hear Analysis and Calculations regarding sustainability, as no limited system can sustain an ever growing number of consumers that also dirty it, as eventually the sources of food will collapse as well as the clean conditions of the nature; when overpopulation occurs in animals in nature, the consequence is Death by Starvation and by Disease, and human civilization is no exception to that (physically we are Animals, more refined and also more weak, but still Animals).


NEGATIVE

- The use of the mask has been reported by Specialists as Dangerous for health, as if used continuously it reduces the amount of clean air necessary for a healthy inclusion of Oxygen from entering the body, resulting in the body not working properly in all the functions that require oxygen. Also, the fungus and bacteria, that grow in the masks, along with the recirculation of Carbon Dioxide , will cause health problems (respiratory diseases among them) as a result of that.

- The unnecessary imposed restriction of mobility (house/home incarceration), is causing many diseases in the population, among them also psychological ones that also make people sick and reduce the levels of their immune system, as people need to interact with others to share their viruses and receive from others also the antiviruses (this is said by Virologists all over the world that have that professional field as their specialization and/or their research field).

- Doctors around the world are reporting Many Varied Clinically Proven Cures for the Covid-19 in Many Thousands of varied patients (and that also work for many viruses and bacterias) even when these proven cures are being tried not to be informed to the population nor being implemented in many hospitals causing many people to dye unnecessarily. That has a name and is intentional Genocide.

- A Vaccine is programmed to be imposed over people, that not only is being reported by specialists in vaccines as Dangerous but also that is going to cause many permanent changes in the people that are vaccinated with them that might (and surely will) cause them harm. Also, if the current Virus has a Cure as has been proven all over the world by Thousands of Doctors, then there is No Need for any Vaccination and even less an imposed/forced one.

- The under skin chip can be used to intentionally sabotage the life of a person that doesn't want to serve the personal intentions of another one in control; it is proven that the ones behind this fake pandemic are people/persons with high amounts of money and because of that of power to corrupt other with it, so it is only very predictable that these people/persons in power will use their influence to use the chips of people/persons to satisfy their personal interests.

- The imposition of the 5G communication technology, that in a not coincident way is being implemented during this confinement months, is being reported by professionals of health as Dangerous for the health of people and that is being ignored by Governments and Media.

- Governments, Media, and the Health Service (Hospitals and others) are Not implementing the Right Processes to Cure the people, and have been Ignoring and also Sanctioning/Punishing/Firing the Doctors that are trying to implement what has been proven to Cure the Patients; it's like the patients are intentionally and negligently left to die in the Hospitals with all the parody of following international Orders and not following what the Doctors are trying to tell them that work and that is Proven to Work. Seems like they are implementing efforts to increase the number of persons dying to instill Fear among the population and keep them locked in their homes while the Economy gets Broken. It has been proven that Hospitals are keeping patients longer in the Intensive Care Units to earn more money (beds in there are more expensive than regular beds of the hospital).

- Economy is intentionally and unnecessarily led to get Broken with the mandatory confinement of people and businesses; this can only benefit those that Loan Money with High Rates of Interest and also big corporations owned by these same people. (Follow the Money is what is usually said).

- It has been investigated and proven by Doctors and Investigators all over the world that the recent Vaccination for Flu, specially imposed/recommended on Old People/Persons, has caused the current Virus to be more Lethal on those vaccinated persons/people, as if the Virus had been injected into them in those Flu Vaccines. If that is the case then that is Intentional Genocide.

- I Don't Like At All, that many Proven Substances/Medicines (in many patients and for many years), are being intentionally ignored and also censored all over the web and also all over the health systems of all countries, as this is Proof that the intention is to keep people/persons sick and dying, instead of curing them. That again is Intentional Genocide and I Don't Like That.

- I Don't Like that with this situation has been operating Exactly the Same methodology of Deceit and Fear implemented in September of 2001 with the WTC (3 towers fall that day not 2), and how all the voices that were trying to investigate all of this were not heard but also censored and unheard by Governments and Media, even when they were Professionals and Specialists. From that situation came also Positive and Negative elements, and some Got Richer at the cost of Deaths and Sufferings of many others, and I Don't Like That.

- It is going to be interesting (as I don't know what the people/persons doing this have in their minds), to see what is going to be the Natality Control System that they are going to implement very surely thru the Vaccination, making people sterile and very surely controlling that only the ones that have the resources have access to procreation and not the people that can't sustain a child. As I mentioned this is Positive and Negative, and it would be very interesting to hear opinions about it. I have been mentioning since very long to my close ones, that Natality Control is Necessary, and that only the ones that can provide a nice New Human Element into civilization should be the ones allowed to procreate, and they all Don't Like My Thinking At All, and All of them Have Rejected Theses Ideas; but is very interesting that Thru Fear the ones ruling the world will Impose that Control Over Them even if the like/want it or Not. it is very curious right? Like when you want to impose something to an Animal for it's benefit (for example administering a cure for it), you have to Deceive It, Trick It, as the animal by it's own will won't allow you to help him/her, but by Deceiving the animal the cure can be implemented in him/her and cure him/her. Well, the same will be done (in my personal opinion) with Humans (most of the humans are People/Animals and only a small portion are Persons with enough Intellect). The following scene in Men In Black explains it so well that when hearing it the difference between People and Person is understood (even if people or persons don't like it).

Men in Black - Bench Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqR6CBFyelw

- What is happening in this World at a Human Level, where Humans Persons at the High Level with High Intellectual Abilities that have the Financial Control are dictating what is Going to Happen (And It Will Happen, at least that is my opinion and I Hope I'm Wrong as I'm a Human Person with Compassion and Empathy but with No Emotion but Yes With Feelings which by definition makes me No Human or at least I think/believe that), gives us an idea of the concept of the World as a Business, in this case for these Human Persons in Control. But this takes me inevitably to analyze what lies beyond that level for which I've read some interesting analysis and who knows maybe the explanation of what is really beyond that Human Level, and is the concept/idea that this World (not Planet) is Ruled by a Civilization interested in making Business with it, and that business includes the Extraction of the Loosh, the resultant substance of Emotions and Confrontations and Suffering, among Plants, Animals, and very specially among Humans. Robert Monroe explains this very well and the following links that contain what is needed to understand that from his Loosh Rote perspective experience and story in pages from 162 of his book "Far Journeys". I Don't Like It but I can comprehend the concept behind it, as is the concept on Every Cattle and Vegetal Exploitation Farm in this world, where many being Die (suffering in the process and also during their lives) to obtain from them a product, either from their dead bodies or substances from their living bodies (like the milk from female cattle). I can't tell as I don't know if the ones owning this world are "Good" guys or "Bad" guys or "Evil" guys, but in Lucid Dreams when I've escaped their simulation environments I've seen them, as I've also seen them when they've attacked me during those experiences, as I've seen them in many not Negative experiences as well, surely not the Bosses, but surely the ones operating the Human Farm at that Astral (Non Physical) Level. So, when I hear people praying to a "Loving" God, I don't share that "Loving" opinion about him/her/it/them, but I respect at least the Positive Energy and Hopes that believing that gives them so I try to leave them in peace as much as is possible, as Waking Up to that Not Happy Reality would Scare Them and also for the purpose of their personal lives on this world wouldn't be useful but instead it would be useless and even it could cause them not to accomplish what is needed from them to get the product that is what justifies their existence in this world in the first place (it might be understandable from a business point of view that if the Humans in this world don't generate the Loosh that is required from them the civilization would be simply annihilated and replaced with other one that fulfills that Loosh producing purpose, and perhaps these are some of the reasons the Human Persons in Power and Control are implementing these Suffering and Controlling Agendas to make sure that this World Produce the Loosh required by it's Real Owners and they along with the lower persons are not annihilated from it). This is an interesting Topic and it would be interesting to hear Opinions and Additional Analysis from others.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/consequences_of_consciousness_awakening_awaking_to_the_truth-t46935.0.html;msg365695#msg365695

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/consequences_of_consciousness_awakening_awaking_to_the_truth-t46935.0.html;msg365748#msg365748

Far Journeys - The Mistery of Loosh
https://es.scribd.com/document/128984667/Far-Journeys-The-Mistery-of-Loosh

For this last point, if the case is this World being abused by parasite beings like the ones mentioned in the Topic "New Jericho (Large Scale Retrieval)" from "Szaxx", it would be nice that in this world is produced something like what finally caused those invaders/parasites in that world to be removed from it (to have to leave it and to leave in peace the persons living in it), and that way only Good Beings can help build a nice world. (I know it is an Utopia but Dreaming Has No Cost, at least Not Yet, who knows if that is going to change in the Future with the Vaccines and Changes that are being imposed, and that is something that experienced Astral Travelers as "Szaxx" and others might investigate, if possible, and if that agenda is also going to be implemented is an Alert to Astral Travelers and Lucid Dreamers and all the persons interested in the Topics that this Web Site and Forums are all about, to make all efforts for that Not To Occur, I leave you with this hopefully still Soon Warning).

New Jericho (Large Scale Retrieval)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/new_jericho_large_scale_retrieval-t42995.0.html


My best regards and hopes for this information to reach those Brave Warriors Of Good (Humans and Non Humans) that are in the positions where they can Guide the Population to Reject what is Not Convenient about this, and Make the Media Hear their Voices (because their positions of power would make impossible for the Media to ignore them as the normal Professionals and Persons/People are being ignored). I don't think this will happen but again, I hope I'm Wrong and Good Triumphs Over Bad and Evil, as I'm on the Side of GOOD (even if Good, Bad, and Evil serve the same God/Owner) as I Only Identify With GOOD (that's Me in my Personal Case).

[Nameless]

Hey PPS,
Thought provoking. I could find some things here to disagree with if just wanted to but in all I simply can not disagree. You've done well putting this together. I have not gone over all the links you've provided but have read many of them or considered many of the concepts in the past so am a bit familiar. The great unMasking has certainly begun and is/will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Although the concepts of right/wrong and good/bad depend on your view I too seek 'Goodness'. How far and how deep this goes I can't say but feel we couldn't see the end if we stood on a tower atop a cloud on the pimple on the top of God's head himself.

I do want to add a special thanks for the link back to Saxx's New Jericho.

[LightBeam]

Relax everyone, dentists and doctors have been wearing masks on a daily basis for hours as part of their jobs and no one until no has mentioned dangers of wearing them for a long time. It has been demonstrated with oxygen machines that wearing a mask does not decrease the level of oxygen intake. If you worry about bacteria and fungus buildup then wash it every day or get disposables.

vaccines have been used for decades to stop the deadly plaques and save millions including children. no one until now has freaked out about side effects. there are possible side effects but less than 1% of course just like anything. But the benefits of saving lives outweighs the risks. Vaccines are nothing more than dead or weakened traces of viruses designed to trigger immunity build up. If we wait for natural heard immunity, then we have to wait for years and loose hundreds of millions of lives worldwide, ruining the economy and not being able to have normal lives.

As far as cures, there hasn't been an effective cure for flue type illnesses for a century. whether on purpose or truly no one can find it that is irrelevant as there are many secrets the masses are not aware of. whether dome mention meds are effective or not, the FDA by law does not have the right to make any statements until there is solid data from double blind placebo control multi center studies. statements from doctors that some things are effective do not have scientific data back up. the FDA regulates only the US, all other countries are free to use whatever they want, yet no one is treating massively COVID and reported great results on a mass level from certain mentioned meds that our FDA is cautioning at this time. There are trials in progress to determine safety and efficacy but the trials are not completed yet. Congress makes the laws, FDA follows these laws. Congress has more republicans at this time. if we believe the wild conspiracies about billionaires controlling meds and approvals because of their own interests than by extension congress allows them to do so, therefore the republicans are the evil controlling party behind it all. I dont believe this as throughout the years republicans and democrats have controlled the law at times and no one has every unveiled evil plans. are there secrets, yes, do all politicians work power driven, yes. Do they wok for the masses, no. However, certain wild conspiracies are just not logical because nowadays everyone blabs about everything. the scale of this controlling agenda is so massive that it will have to involve each country's government, physicians, scientists, labs, pharma, biotech companies and everyone working for them. Simply impossible.

We have to work with what we have at this time and our best bet is a vaccine. the swine flue was contained by a vaccine in 2009. It still circulates but there is a big difference between 60 million people in the US infected 2009-2010 and 100 000 per year nowadays because of the vaccine. This vaccine is within your regular flue shot that many people take seasonally. I haven't heard any alarming side effects from the flue shot. well the COVID shot will be no different principle of development wise. People need to stop the paranoia and the wild conspiracies because we will sabotage ourselves in the end.

in addition, people are scared of being implanted with a track devices through vaccines. This one cracks me up. If anyone wanted to insert anything within us, that's easy, though any meds, food or drinks in the market. why does not have to be this particular vaccine. devices cant be passed through the tiny middle with liquid. how many manufacturers will be involved in the making process. ingredient not on the label can not be kept a secret. a device or a chip will need power to work continuously. how will it be recharged in our bodies to be able to work as a tracking device or any device in that matter? And of you think about it we already have tracking devices on all of us. We paid money for them and we will not give them up. we freak out when we looks them, break them or loose connection. WE attached them volunteer to us and we rarely turn them off. Think about it. Through our cellphones, all of our locations are known at all time, whether you realize it or not, every word we speak on them, every text, every search keyword, every website we ever visited are forever recorded and linked to our identity. there is no need of any other chip or tracking devices needed at all. and plus, they influence the way we think by reading articles, watching videos, etc. this made it so easy of whoever is interested in tracking every person ion the world and influencing their minds. even our cameras may be recording us without us being aware. how do you know your camera records only when you are seeing a light or you have turned it on.  

[Nameless]

You are a voice of reason LB, no doubt. I wouldn't call myself freaking out about any of this. However there is a lot going on and this pandemic is only a part of that just like all the fear mongering and distractions with race and gender. All of it is distraction.

The one thing I do have a hard time escaping is the oppression I feel. I know it's just the vestiges of empathy I haven't learned to shut off and I don't want to completely shut it off. It keeps me human but it is a bit much sometimes.

[Xanth]

Hey!!  Logic and reasoning have no place here LB!!    hehe

[Lumaza]

Hey!!  Logic and reasoning have no place here LB!!    hehe

These days "logic and reasoning" don't seem to have a place anywhere anymore. When you attempt to use one of them, you seem to instantly become attacked and find yourself ridiculed. Love for your fellow Human, no matter what the circumstances may be, of all creeds and colors, seems to somehow  been left behind. This all really perplexes me!  

[LightBeam]

Hey!!  Logic and reasoning have no place here LB!!    hehe

It truly feels like we are in the Twilight Zone  

[Xanth]

Lumaza, LB...

Yeah seriously!  The world seems to be in quite a chaotic state these days.
And I'm not just talking about the coronavirus. 

[LightBeam]

Lumaza, LB...

Yeah seriously!  The world seems to be in quite a chaotic state these days.
And I'm not just talking about the coronavirus. 

Totally! In general people's behavior has become bizarre. I think there is overload of information that is conflicting yet very convincing/manipulative on all levels regardless if it's true, so people cant decide what to believe, many are not experts in certain fields, they just read headlines. Many are spoiled having certain way of living and now being restricted in certain ways freaks them out. I view it as a need of forging, but before the product that is being forged become strong, it needs to go though fire.

[omcasey]

As ever, the human population is having their attention led astray - to anywhere but to the ELEPHANT ( in the proverbial room ).

It is all too easy, people enjoy getting distracted on points when the core matter will always come down to 1 ) the natural and, 2 ) the synthetic/medical. The mindset of the former is on terrain theory and the latter on germ theory.. There will always be the two, in 3D physical space there is always a dualism in play.

Terrain theory is an "inside out" theory —

It focuses on one's core health, state of mind, energy levels and emotional state. Its focus will be on natural immunity ( not medical immunity, vaccines ) and this means not "protecting" oneself and others from what is out there by hiding/separating/distancing from it, but on the contrary coming into contact with it, for various means all of which equate to building a stronger, more sustainable organism ( /body system ). These are the people you will hear not aligning with the wearing of masks, with forced anything *including vaccines *which in their paradigm would hurt/harm/destroy the immune system they are working diligently to build, for not just themselves but the human race.

Germ theory is an "outside-in" theory —

It focuses on outside influences, all outside influences including 'germs' and going to war against them.. It focuses on medical immunity, vaccines and this very much means "protecting" oneself and others from what is out there by hiding/separating/distancing from it. These are the mask wearers, social distance-rs, pro vaccine people. As this paradigm advances it leads into the blending of man with machine. Computer chipping, nano technology, internal devices taking the place of the currently external ones, AI, and it is my guess this leads into the line of humans becoming/evolving into what we call 'the greys'.

This is an extremely simplistic outline, but

Suffice it to say there is no inherent fight, or disagreement in any of this.

The difficulty comes when we, from our own point of choice feel we can impose this on others making a different choice.

It never works and no-one ever wins.

_________________________


Choose. - make your choice, yes, by all means....ride the wave of your own attention.

Graduating 3D depends solely on your ability to let everyone else do the same.

To focus — not fight.



Casey

[Lumaza]

 It seems like this isn't going to go away any time soon. The chaos will continue into a new stage. During my Phase soak session today, amongst other things I was told to "look up". As of up into the sky. This seems to be following some kind of systematic, progressional time line.

I only focus on positive intents and targets in my Phase soak sessions. But many times especially in the last 5 months or so, my intents have been "hi jacked" over towards showing me something more chaotic that is soon to occur.

In the past we have talked about some kind of "Event" that was coming. Covid could definitely fit that bill. So could the current problem with the racial uprising we are seeing, both pro or con. But still that feeling is there. I think this "Event" is something that is occurring in stages or should I say "Phases". For the past 5 or so months I have been using that term "Phases" to describe what's occurring now. There are important things to learn from each Phase and if we don't show that we learned said lesson, we seem to move onto another chaotic Phase.

Covid attacked the body. This new turning on each other seems to be attacking the mind. The next thing to come is "Spirituality". So, I guess the message of "looking up" seems to fit that bill. We will see! 

As we have seen, "from chaos comes order". Unfortunately it is said chaos that seems to hold our most valuable and profound lessons. But tis life I guess!

[LightBeam]

Definitely there shouldn't be a blame or judgement on anyone, even if it's clear they do not make good  choices based on ego, stupidity, ignorance own interest, intentional harm to others, etc. Not seeing the right way and doing things wrong IS a very good way of learning and it is necessary to make mistakes in order to make realizations. So, I am just steeping back and just observing, letting everyone go through their fires so they can extract knowledge. They have to be left to get burned. It is the only way. Everyone including us here, also learn things that we lack knowledge of, go through our own fires and have agreed to it all. Even if we destroy Earth, cause mass suffering because we make the wrong choices on how to handle things, etc, then this is how as mass consciousness we have decided to reach extremes. But we still go on, there are many realities, one begins, another gets destroyed. This is the circle of existence.

[Nameless]

My God, Beirut.

[omcasey]

Lightbeam -

We suffer or enJOY only our perception. our own choice. If this perception you share feels good to you - continue! . .

In the memorable words of Abraham, "You cannot get it wrong, and you never get it done."


♥︎

[omcasey]

Nameless - I am just hearing . .

[omcasey]

I wonder if and when we ( humanity ) will ever collectively "get it", - the only one we can ever change....the only one who ever needs to change is ourself. Everything —> out there —> is the mirror. There is never anything fundamentally wrong out there —> If it is not self <— it is no-one. I am not sure humanity will ever collectively understand. It is very sad to me.

[Lumaza]

My God, Beirut.

Early reports say it was at the Port there and that by the color of the smoke and the fact that there were smaller explosions preceding the large one, that it had something to do with "fireworks" housed there. So, it appears to be a accident.

[Lumaza]

I am not sure humanity will ever collectively understand. It is very sad to me.

If we did finally "collectively" understand, there wouldn't be a purpose for this "school" here anymore.

[LightBeam]

If we did finally "collectively" understand, there wouldn't be a purpose for this "school" here anymore.

EXACTLY

[omcasey]

Quote from: omcasey on Today at 06:28:02
I am not sure humanity will ever collectively understand. It is very sad to me.

If we did finally "collectively" understand, there wouldn't be a purpose for this "school" here anymore.

The school, or grade / class would remain - WE would collectively graduate the grade. Yes

Just like IRL

[LightBeam]

If we did finally "collectively" understand, there wouldn't be a purpose for this "school" here anymore.

The school, or grade / class would remain - WE would collectively graduate the grade. Yes

Just like IRL

Here is something I though of. The spirit graduates from being in multiple schools (realities) as different characters. Humans are just one type of character that the spirit assumes through its journey. In this reality no one sticks around for thousands of years to see the graduation as a human. We all stay here a very short period of time and then exit, learning just a few things at a time. I am not sure what drives the so called "evolution" since all of us here have been on Earth for maximum 100 years with a few exceptions. Perhaps the legacy left by each past generation and the changes each new generation gradually assumes. But overall it is the collective personality experiences that make us graduate as spirits. whether a few billions of humans eventually will reach some perfect world, that is possible, but how long can they live in bliss. Eventually the Sun will die and so is all life on Earth. On a grand scale, this reality's  faith is not as significant as we perceive it. There are so many realities that we are constantly hopping in and out as different characters. We encounter it all, big failure, doom, devastation, destruction, bliss, love, happiness. The ultimate goal is spirit expansion and that's what characters and their realities serve for.

[omcasey]

It can be so simple.

I find it very true that there is a purpose and function for both the learning program and the graduation from it.

Graduation is reflected in ones ability to focus on self ( another word for which is consciousness ) prior to 'other' ( another word for which is BODY ).

We all have this opportunity here and now in the time flow. How might the world mirror change should I/you/enough or all of us do this?

Wondering would indeed yield significant result.

[PhaPriSpa]

NOTE: I Hope You Can Share the Positive and Negative Consequences that You consider that will have what is Currently Happening in 2020 in this World, and also Your Personal Opinions regarding that. (If you are an Astral Traveler and/or Lucid Dreamer, and you have had Experiences in other World/Worlds where you have been shown how Imposed Changes Over Population have been made and their Positive and Negative Consequences, it would be really nice to Hear Your Experiences as they might be useful to Analyze the Positive and Negative Outcomes of what is Currently Going On in This World).

Below, are other additional personal opinions about the Positive and Negative Consequences of what is happening and what is projected to happen in the future.


POSITIVE

- People (and Persons) are having an opportunity to share with their direct/close Families (the ones living in their houses/homes), and those who use that opportunity well will learn to appreciate more what they have in their Homes (wife/husband, sons/daughters, relatives, pets, and so on). Of course, there will be others who not only won't appreciate that but will find it repulsive (to have to share so much time Home with their close ones) and that would be something Negative out of a Positive opportunity.

- People/Persons are getting in touch with Knowledge about some Medicinal Substances that have been in the Hiding (Censoring) for very long, and in the search for Covid-19 Remedies/Solutions by searching the web they eventually will get in contact with those censored information (it is censored because of Financial Interest of those with Economic/Money Power and Not because these Medicinal Substances don't work because they DO WORK and VERY WELL), and also in this process people and persons are noticing how they have been and are being Deceived by those Financial/Money Interests by those Few Elites that Currently Control the World (and have been doing it since many centuries and everything indicates that they will continue with that control as the regular/normal People/Persons are not strong enough and not interested enough and/or are not capable enough to assume that Control themselves).

- Let's Hope that People/Persons are "Learning" to Value their "Freedom" as they are in the process of LOSING IT ALL FOR GOOD AND FOREVER. Since September of 2001 (with the WTC Deceit/Lie) that process Began and now in 2020 it has been Removed From Almost Everybody IN A FEW WEEKS (that's all it took to Scare and Impose Fear to Most of the People/Persons and in Consequence Impose Measures to Restrict their Freedoms), and is Amazing HOW EASY IT HAS BEEN TO DO IT (The "Elites" Responsible for this LIE/DECEIT should be not only Satisfied but also VERY HAPPY of HOW EASY it has been). If things continue to be as they are the "New Normality" will mean "New More Restricted Slavery Condition" and People/Persons won't Recover their Old "Freedom" Anymore (unfortunately that's what I believe the will happen). Of course the "Elites" behind this LIE/DECEIT will Continue to Enjoy their Freedom without any change, well, maybe the change will be that they will Enjoy More Freedom and more Free Conditions to Continue to Impose their Will Over the Weak General Population. Many Have to Suffer and Live Troubled/Conflicted Lives for a Few Fortunate/Intelligent Ones To Live Nice Happy Lives (Read the Book "Reign of Dreamers: Elizabeth’s Mystery" mentioned below and you'll understand this concept where if you're Not in the "Elite/Selected/Privileged" Group then you are in the "Service/Populace/Masses" Group at their Service and you are easily Expendable/Disposable).


NEGATIVE

- In some of the Vaccination Videos they are mentioning that along with the substances that those Vaccines will contain, there will be Nano Technology Robots (Nano Sized Technological Elements), that will Affect the Functioning of the Brain of the People/Persons. This WORRIES me a Lot, since this can be used for Good Things as well as for Bad (or Very Bad Things), and the concept of Free Will might be Altered/Damaged with all of that. Following that reasoning, it would be logic to analyze that this also might be used to Damage/Sabotage certain Brain Functions related with Astral Projection and/or Lucid Dreaming, and other Astral Communications with what lies in the Non Physical Realms, and because of that it would be Nice if experienced Astral Travelers as "Szaxx" and others might investigate this Topic, if possible, and provide an opinion about if these Evil "Elite" Humans might or might Not affect our abilities to Astral Project and/or Lucid Dream and/or in general Have those Altered States Of Consciousness that Allow Us to Get in Contact with Other Worlds of Creation (Physical and Non Physical ones). (When I've Tried to Ask Intelligent Questions to the Beings located in the Worlds I've Accessed so far, All of Them Avoid/Evade Providing Direct Answers to my Questions and instead they either Shut my Experience Off and force me to Wake Up and/or they Answer Stupid/Garbage/Incoherent Words/Phrases, I Hope other Persons from this Forums might have Better "Friends/Contacts" in there that can Really Provide Them Useful Information and Guide, that they can share with us in this Forums and in this case in this Topic).

Including Common Elements into the ADN/DNA (or ARN/RNA) of All Humans (turning them somehow in potential "Clones") might expose them to be All Affected Massively by for example a Virus, which might end up soon in a REAL PANDEMIC with Real Massive Deaths (even the Death of all population marked by certain specific changes in their ADN/DNA or ARN/RNA that makes them vulnerable to certain Specific Virus Designed/Created to attack that specific population vaccinated with that specific Vaccine that applied those specific changes). This reminds me the scene of the movie Jupiter Ascending (2015) where Jupiter was with her "Daughter" Kalique in her owned planet and she explained to Jupiter that they don't use clones anymore in their populated business worlds/farms as they are susceptible to easily be killed by a Virus (she specifically says "Clones Lack Genetic Plasticity") and that difference in individuals is key to the survival of their specie and not to be easily killed by some Virus or disease. My Personal Opinion (and I hope I'm wrong) is that a REAL GENOCIDE is going to be Imposed soon over the population of this World and that this will be caused by the Massive Forced Vaccination that will be imposed over the population in the following months; they can always argue/justify that it was an unexpected reaction to that New Vaccine as it was New Technology and will have all the "Legal" shields to stop anyone from requesting indemnization for all caused damages. Again, it'd be nice if those with "Good Friends" specially With Influence, in the Non Physical Realms that have access to this world, can ask them if a Genocidal Agenda is going to take place in this world in the following months/years and if they are going to allow it to occur, and also what consequences is going to have in this World, and also the consequences that this same events have had in other Worlds controlled/supervised by them, and it would be nice if you can share some of this information to be able to analyze it.

- Completing a little the point where I talked about Robert Monroe's "Loosh Rote" in my Initial Post in this Topic, I'd like to share the link to the Book of Mr. Michael Raduga called "Reign of Dreamers: Elizabeth’s Mystery", a GREAT BOOK, very Entertaining to Read (like Pringles "Once You Pop You Can't Stop" in this case "Once You Start Reading It You Won't Stop Until You've Finished It"), where Mr. Raduga tells a Very Interesting Story and I don't think is Random what he shows in it (when you reach the part of the story where "things" are "revealed" you'll understand) and the message he tries to tell in the book (besides the benefits of Phasing) regarding Existence and some of the Reasons Behind the Why Live Beings Exist in This World (and it won't be rare that also in many of the Other Worlds in Creation). He is also generous to share and Initial/Old version of his "Phase" Book, so it's a good idea to Read it too and take a look at the Videos and Information shared in his Web Site (links are in the Post and in the Topic of the link below).

30. Reign of Dreamers: Elizabeth’s Mystery - By: Michael Raduga
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/books_of_lucid_dreaming_astral_projection_obe_out_of_body_experiences-t46899.0.html;msg373450#msg373450

Also, the Movie "Jupiter Ascending" (2015) mentioned above in the previous point, is also Relevant to the Topic of "Loosh Rote" and helps understand the Very Probable meaning of the Human Existence in this World called "Earth" (which seems to be a Farm besides the other usefulness it might have for Consciousness living in it); so it's worth seeing that movie and analyzing it.

- This PLANdemic is Reveling the Darkest Side of the Health/Medic/Medicine System in this World, as Hospitals/Clinics all over the world have been following (Intentionally and/or Being Forced by their Goverments/Politicians/Corporations in Power) Wrong Methods/Processes/Protocols to Cure the People/Persons affected by Respiratory and other related Diseases in these months (since the moment the PLANdemic was announced and even a little before), causing Many People/Persons to Die when they could (and should) have been saved if the right healing medical processes would have been followed and implemented in them. They even Forbid the practice of Autopsies Intentionally Hiding the LIE and DECEIT, and Not Allowing (even up until today) the Right Curing/Healing/Medical Processes to be Applied, the Right Medicaments to be Used on Patients to cure them (they want them to get Sicker and Die), and Recommending Wrong Processes (The OMS and other Organizations with Financial Interest from Private Pharmaceutical Companies are Direct Responsibles of all of this as well as the Governments and Politicians and Corporations and the Media/TV, and also the Internet and Media/TV Censoring that is being Intentionally Imposed over the People/Persons in almost ALL the Countries of the World displaying Wrong/Incorrect Information, Hiding/Censoring Correct Information even from Experts, and Continuously Feeding FEAR thru Media/TV/Internet).

It has been Proved in various Countries that the Hospitals are sending Patients to Intensive Care Units and also are Intentionally Diagnosing them with Covid-19, because they can Charge More Money everyday the Patient is occupying a Bed in these Intensive Care Units, and if the Patient is Diagnosed with Covid-19 they get even More Money for the Patient being there, and if the Patient is Intubated and Connected to an Artificial Respirator Machine they win even More Money, and if ANY Patient Dies and is Diagnosed with Covid-19 they can Charge and Win Even More Money, and Send the Body Directly to be Cremated without Any Autopsy nor their Relatives being able to See the Body (Nor Visit their relative during their stance in the Hospital), so this is showing us a Very Corrupt/Dark/Evil Hospital/Medicine System where even Doctors/Medics are being Financially Motivated/Corrupted to Diagnose their Patients as Covid-19 Patients even receiving (being motivated with) Money when Doing That, and that is CORRUPTION and GENOCIDE at it's Highest Level; also, Doctors/Medics are being Induced and even Forced to Diagnose Covid-19 for many symptoms that are Not related with that disease but with other Normal Respiratory Diseases that already exist and even to patients not Directly Diagnosed with those Fake Detection Tests but if a relative or someone close was diagnosed with those Fake/Deceiving Detection Test, so there is an Effort made by Pharmaceutical Companies (that Control and Finance the OMS and other International Health Institutions) to Corrupt the Medicine/Health System all over the World to Get Bigger Covid-19 Numbers and Bigger Covid-19 Deaths (Most and the Majority of the Deaths are for other Death Causes and Not directly caused by this Virus), and also the Rapid Testing Devices/Systems for "detecting the Covid-19" Virus have been Reported to be False/Wrong in the Diagnosis, as they Report as Positive many diseases and even Normal Not Sick People/Persons and also even a Papaya (Fruits and animals) are reported as Covid-19 Positive, so the efforts to Impose a Deceiving/Lying Detection/Testing System like that is intentional to Feed High Numbers (of Persons Contaminated and Persons Killed by that Virus) in this Deceiving PLANdemic, and also Feed Fear of Death into the Population to get them into Vaccinating themselves to place into their bodies Substances that will change/affect them in many ways and also they can include many Nano Elements that I already mentioned in my first point in the Negative list in this Post.

Good and Honest Doctors/Medics are being Censored and Silenced and even Fired from their Jobs, for trying to make Good Medical Practice and Not Helping this LIE/DECEIT and even Warning the People/Persons about it, and that is Not GOOD/OK. Seems like what is Good and Honest in this World is being intentionally Corrupted and that Can't Have Good Consequences Nor Good Intentions, and that's Why I Don't Support the way this Deceiving PLANdemic has been Made because it is Showing the Worst of Human Nature in those who are Deceiving the General Population, and the General Population are showing how Weak and Defenseless and Ignorant and Not Coordinated they are (something that the Evil Corrupt "Elite" ones don't have as they are Coordinated and Organized in their Evil Doings like this one). Who knows, maybe that's one of the objectives of this situation, to show how Wrong the world is, filled with Beings that are easily Corrupted (most of them allow the corruption to take place for Fear of losing their jobs and only a few are Good/Honest/Ethical/Moral enough to Not/Don't Cooperate with those Bad/Evil doings), and with Beings that are Ignorant Animals/People (only a small percentage of Humans are Persons with enough Intellect and Intelligence to notice this lies and with enough Good Moral/Ethic not to give into that Bad/Evil), and with a Small Amount of Very EVIL Persons that are Very Intellectually Capable, Intelligent, and Decided, and that are going to Impose their Will over the Others like they Very Frontally and Openly Started are doing it by Imposing over People/Persons the Quarantine/Isolation, the Social Distancing, the Use of Mouth/Nose Covers, (all of this will make people more sick), and everything we are seeing based on a Fake PLANdemic and using the Fear of People against them (against the People). I believe because of that, that what is happening is Not Intended for the Benefit of People/Persons but for Eugenic (Eugenesia in spanish) purposes that will include Genocide (as we are already seeing with the Deaths of People by wrong Medical Practices that are taking current medicine quality backwards many centuries and is the reason Many People/Persons are Avoiding/Prevented from going to Hospitals as they would Die and Be Killed with Wrong Medical Practices that are intentionally being wrongly applied to Patients affected by this Virus and by other diseases), and is intended so that only the "Elite" will Enjoy a Nice Quality of Life while the "Others" Low Quality/Caste/Status Humans will Suffer from many Problems and Diseases (many of this diseases imposed by that "Elite" as has already been proved thru Vaccination in children and in people in the world since many years ago as Diseases/Viruses and other Contaminated elements such as Mercury are being included in these Vaccines).

- In September of 2001 this same Deceiving/Lying process was Implemented in the Already Proved Deceit (by Experts in Construction/Engineering/Architecture and other Fields) WTC Attack (I won't get in detail of that as I already did in other Topic), and the same FEAR Feeding, Censoring of Truth, and other Wrong Deceitful Actions, were seen and experienced back then (Only the "Official" Versions were Continuously Displayed in Media/TV/Internet and all other Versions and Analysis were Censored and also the Media/TV/Internet Continuously Feed People/Persons with Fear and Wrong/Deceiving Information). Some Interesting Good things resulted from this (better security controls in Planes for example), but Many Wrong things resulted from that, which are the base (along with many Legal elements that are being implemented in the Legal System like the Internet Censoring and Electronic Chip Imposing and Massive Mandatory Vaccination) to what this World is in the process of Experiencing this year 2020.


SOME ANALYSIS AND OPINIONS

I can understand some of the concepts behind what is currently going on, and I've been analyzing them since long ago (to the Dislike and Disapproval of all those I've mentioned them to). It'd be Interesting if You Can Share Your Opinions about how things Should Be in Your Opinion, and if they might be Possible to implement with the current state of development of humanity. Some (just a few) of these concepts are:

- The necessity of Controlling the Birth Rate of Natality and to Choose Who Should Reproduce and Who Should Not for Quality Purposes. This will reduce the Population and also include only Quality elements/beings into the system and Exclude Any Garbage (like the delinquents coming mainly from Low Social Classes/Castes where because of their conditions and low social quality of life they are "destined" to become the Resented Scum and Delinquents of this world, this same applies to Ignorance and Prostitution based on Need, and its low sources mainly from low social classes and low conditions of life and education). I believe this control will be implemented thru the Massive Vaccination that will take place very soon (the amount of vaccines to vaccinate the Entire Population of the World are in process of being fabricated and acquired by all the Countries of the world so this tells that this Will Happen), including certain elements in the Persons ADN/DNA and ARN/RNA (what will be affected with the New Vaccines), and this will allow those who are in Power to Lower (or even Suppress) Fertility and Only Allow it to those who Qualify (Financially and in Physical and Mental and Emotional and Intellectual Quality) to be helped to Reproduce the Allowed Amount of Children; those Not qualified to Reproduce won't be allowed to do it, and even Should be Sterilized as what they will bring if successful only Garbage to the system and Not Quality Individuals that will help the system be better and be also Obedient to Help the system be Better.

This is connected with Removing Vicious Conducts and Addictions, if the objective is to obtain Good Elements; it'd be nice to know from "High Sources in the Non Physical Levels" if this is the Agenda and if it will be allowed to happen, or if the Agenda is to Simply Enslave the Human General Population keeping them Sick and Dependent (and in Ignorance and in Necessity like mentioned by the Ghost of Christmas Present in the movie "A Christmas Carol" of 2009) of the "Elite" in Power (something tells me that this last thing is the "Agenda" and the world won't be Better that what it is but even Worse); this also reminds me the movie Elysium (2013) where the "Elite" Classes lived in a High Technological World orbiting Earth where they had all the Technological elements to Not Get Sick and to Live Nice Happy Lives and the General Population were left as Garbage in the Earth World in Conflict and Need, Far Away from the Happy Environment of that Privileged "Elite" (below is a scene of that movie as I mentioned below in the other point of Analysis).

The Death of the Ghost of Christmas Present
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtWrAjtptUU

- The necessity of Forcing an Identification and Location system, to be able to Identify by means of Technology Every Individual in the system at All Times, via a CHIP and also via Facial, Eye/Retina, Fingerprint, and other Biometric Systems, and any Non Detected or Weird Element/Being trying to Fool/Infiltrate the System should be Stopped and Confronted (and even Destroyed if his/her intentions were Evil), as Only Useful Elements to the system should be allowed to participate in it. This might help locate problematic individuals (specially Delinquents) and Neutralize them (even Remove them from the system if the idea is to remove the Garbage from it and only leave what is Useful, even if it's Good and Bad but Not Evil, that will really help the system to be Better).

It'd be interesting to know how the Caste/Class systems will be organized in that future, since this Human animal system is based in people/persons serving other people/persons, and until this can be delegated to Machines/Robots (like in the space city in the movie Elysium of 2013 for example) it will continue to happen and some people/persons will have to serve other people/persons and specially the "Elite" (they won't allow people/persons Not to serve them).

Elysium (2013) - Ending Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO53e7_lvr0

It'd also be interesting to know if Humans will be able to develop Technology that will free them from having to serve others and even themselves, and focus their Intellects into developing more Tecnhnology, Arts, and their Intellectual abilities in general.

I've witnessed in some Worlds (in Lucid Dreams or maybe who knows even Astral Projections) certain Control Systems were I've been Detected and Neutralized in many ways (some of them nice and others very Not nice and abrupt), and I've even had to evade them by moving thru walls, flying away in horizontal motion (in vertical motion somehow I'm always/generally stopped from leaving to the top/dome of their worlds and only in a few occasions in the past I've reached that dome or even access the space between masses of land/worlds contemplating them getting smaller as I get away from them, all of them very interesting experiences to have), and even moving thru the soil/ground, to reach other Worlds, and sometimes even get followed by beings from those worlds capable of doing this same things (even by Technological Robots trying to capture me) and even get followed by beings to other environments (and also even being transported into many other Worlds by variated beings present in these Non Physical Worlds/Realms who do are the ones doing the Driving and choosing the destination, which are also very interesting experiences to have). So, this types of Controls Exist in Many Worlds/Realms, and They Work into Detecting Intruders (in these cases, Me/Myself) and Stopping them or at least getting them out of their Worlds/Realms (or who knows maybe sometimes allowing them a monitored/supervised walk around some of these Worlds/Realms for whatever reasons they might have to allow it).


My Best Regards.

[PhaPriSpa]

I believe the following NEGATIVE point is so Urgent to Analyze (and so Severely Dangerous for "Freedom" in this World), that it deserves a New Post in this Topic.

- The Video of the link below brings to Notice/Attention other possible Negative consequences related with the possibility for Corporations (and the Persons behind them) to Own the Physical Bodies of Persons, as the Certificates of Birth and a Corporative Version of the Body/Physical/(Flesh and Blood) of a Person are already Owned by Banks (Financial Corporations) for their Transactions, which is mentioned in a Post for which I provide a Link at the end below, and is used by this Corporations (and the Persons behind them) to Abuse the Population for whom they have/own their Birth Certificate and for whom they've "created" the "Civilization" we are part of, with the "Legal" resources they've created and that they use to Abuse it and have it Enslaved at their Service.

ALERT !!! ... THIS DOCTOR EXPLAINS THAT THERE IS BEHIND THE MASS VACCINATION AGENDA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKrSyi3jM70

Dr Carrie Madej speaks on vaccine ingredients for c19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iy6uVjGJFk

According to what is mentioned in that video, the Corporations may find (or have already found) a "Legal" way to Own the Body/Physical/(Flesh and Blood) of the Population (People and Persons) by means of altering their ADN/DNA (or ARN/RNA) and owning those changes as they have Patented them for their own personal benefit thru the Corporations they Own and thru the "Legal" Corporative Figures that they use to Own this Civilization and all the Population in it.

If this is True, then THIS IS THE FORMAL AND MASSIVE BEGINNING OF THE END OF FREEDOM (AND THE REALITY OR ILLUSION OF FREE WILL THAT WE HAVE) IN THIS WORLD as EVERY HUMAN BEING (Body of Flesh and Blood) will be Owned by this Corporations (and the Persons behind them), and this means that Everybody's Lives will be Owned by Them (this Evil "Elite"), and they can Decide Who Lives and Who Dies, and it might even give them the "Right" to do whatever they want with whoever they want.

It'd be IMPORTANT to hear your Opinions about this also, and it would also be Nice if experienced Astral Travelers as "Szaxx" and others might investigate this Topic, if possible, and provide an opinion about it (and all the other points mentioned in it), to know the Consequences that all of this will have.

If the "Loosh Rote" topic is right (and I believe it is), then the Human Beings, Animals, Plants, and everything in general of this world called "Earth" is already Owned by some Being or Group/Collective of Beings, who created this world and its creatures to take from it/them a product (or group of products) useful and of interest for them. This maneuver of this Evil "Elite" to also "Own" the Non "Elite" Human Beings (People and Persons) might be their effort to Run/Manage the Business for the Real Owners and obtain even Further/Bigger Utilities/Produces from this system/farm guaranteeing continuous Suffering, Death, Diseases, Unhappiness, Conflict, and many other elements that make a Nice Quality and Abundant "Loosh Rote" for the Real Owners of this World; who knows, maybe the world isn't producing enough "Loosh" and the Real Owners want it to produce more, and that Won't happen if People/Persons are Happy but only if they are in continuous Conflict and Suffering (reading the Book of Robert Monroe and/or the Link Provided for an Extract of that specific part of the book in a previous Post in this Topic, will help explain all of this).

Far Journeys - The Mistery of Loosh
https://es.scribd.com/document/128984667/Far-Journeys-The-Mistery-of-Loosh

Enslaved By Your Birth Certificate - Consequences Of Consciousness Awakening - Awaking To The Truth
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/consequences_of_consciousness_awakening_awaking_to_the_truth-t46935.0.html;msg365753#msg365753

Strawman - The Nature of the Cage (OFFICIAL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sArXw6ajNg

Straw Man - The Nature of the Cage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK59jyQCyP8

Another copy of the video from one of the links of the previous Post that was removed
Your Birth Certificate is Worth Billions Pay off your Debt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgIzgQsH1GE

My Best Regards.

[GrumpyRabbit]

- This PLANdemic is Reveling the Darkest Side of the Health/Medic/Medicine System in this World,

Dude no. Mikovits is a nut. People in my chronic illness community have known about her for years because of the XMRV fiasco. Now she's reared her ugly head again and is doing more damange. Seriously she went off the deep end a while ago.