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Top 2012 Theories that come close to making sense

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Domintheos

The 2012 conspiracy theory runs rampant through our modern technological media.  Below are my top five most believable 2012 Doomsday events.

1) Nothing             = Just another day on earth.

2) Nuclear War       = global economic collapse, global nuclear pollution, global anarchy, global feudalism, etc.

3) Polar Shift          = earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, etc.

4) New World Order  = false alien invasion through utilization of blue beam technology projection upon chemtrail canopies in the sky.

5) Reality Shift        = spiritual ascension and separation of positive, negative and neutral parties.

What do you guys think about 2012?

astraladdict

I used to think one things will happen, than the other. Now, i'm not even going to try to predict it. I have too much going on right now to worry about if earth is going to blow up or not. We should all just sit back, relax, and see what happens when the time comes. As a fav. saying of mine goes.

" Live for today, but look forward to tomorrow."

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

Domintheos

Thats a good way to put it, thanks for the post.

Boom

Agreed.  Its just annoying coz i live very far away from my family.. if things were gonna go bad.. i'd like to get back there... and if things were to go bad. I doubt we'd find out until last minute.. in which case there is no way I would get there, and even so. Social order would break down. there would be no flights etc.

Personally as i put in the other thread. I'm just sick of all the scaremongering. People who think they know better than anyone else, and doing their thing to "spread the word". The whole rapture thing earlier this year was absolutely laughable.. But the problem is, some people really do believe and they totally mess their lives up because they think its all going to end anyway.  Just put 2012 or Elenin into youtube. There are endless videos and people giving seminars about stuff. For example, there was one video entitled "insider speaks the truth" and has this guy chatting over a phone line to a radio station about how there is a big brown dwarf heading our way. No information as to who he is.. coulda been anyone!  Yet people are gullable and will believe!

Xanth

Quote from: Boom on September 02, 2011, 09:18:12
Yet people are gullable and will believe!
It's unfortunate, but those people will always exist in this world in one way or another.  :)

Domintheos

#5
Yeah, I've heard and read about "Elenin".  I'd rather not go back and research the information on it to explain the exact details of what I'd studied.  Though, there's a few bits of "abstract" information i'd share on it.  One point i'd come across was that this star was recognized in the late 1990's by a guy who's last name was "Elenin", which is how it received the name.  Another point i'd come across is that the star was named Elenin as symbolic of "Melanin". 

Most of this information can be very confusing, though we should attempt to assimilate all forms of knowledge, and ignore or discard all that is unnecessary.  I believe we are in the 2012 season already, and have been ever since 2001.

CFTraveler

Elenin is not a star, it's a comet.  A block of ice that will be the closest to Earth in October.

Xanth

Quote from: Domintheos on September 02, 2011, 11:07:12
Yeah, I've heard and read about "Elenin".  I'd rather not go back and research the information on it to explain the exact details of what I'd studied.  Though, there's a few bits of "abstract" information i'd share on it.  One point i'd come across was that this star was recognized in the late 1990's by a guy who's last name was "Elenin", which is how it received the name.  Another point i'd come across is that the star was named Elenin as symbolic of "Melanin". 

Most of this information can be very confusing, though we should attempt to assimilate all forms of knowledge, and ignore or discard all that is unnecessary.  I believe we are in the 2012 season already, and have been ever since 2001.
And it was a Russian astronomer named Leonid Elenin who discovered the COMET (not a star, as CFT pointed out) on December 10, 2010.

Unless you're referring to some other celestial body... in which case it wouldn't be anything anywhere in our local vicinity.  :)

Domintheos

Quote from: CFTraveler on September 02, 2011, 12:43:56
Elenin is not a star, it's a comet.  A block of ice that will be the closest to Earth in October.


Gotcha

Neccrid

Ever since I became more interested in Astral Projection and I took on a grander view to the way of the universe I always felt 2012 would mark the beginning of something new, not the terrible extinction of the human race. So I agree with #5. Something has been telling me this for a very long time now. I don't expect the change to be instant, but I expect there to be something. If it is instant, I won't complain.
"What we do in life, Echoes in Eternity"

blis

I pick number 5. Maybe along with 3.

I'm alright with a pole shift wiping most of us out. The world needs it. I'm kinda hoping it's not elenin going to cause it though. I mean I wouldnt mind but the timing is inconvenient. I've got karmic stuff I need to sort out before it happens and it could take me a month or two.

Stillwater

If these five possibilities were racehorses, I feel number one would likely have an astronomically low pay-off  :wink:

Nuclear war is still always a possibility at any time though, and I could also conceive of how a group could be motivated to stage an alien threat in order to fear-monger for more military spending.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

CFTraveler

It seems to me that nothing never happens- that is, that something is always happening.  Just yesterday (or this morning) a satellite fell into the earth- just last month there was a hurricane in Freaking New York; just a few months ago various governments toppled or are in the process of getting toppled.  So whatever happens in 2012 will happen because something is always happening somewhere.

Xanth

... and there will be someone ready to point to that event and yell "2012!!!  TOLD YA SO!!"

That's the sad part.  It's not like "stuff" doesn't happen on an almost daily basis on this planet... LoL

Stillwater

Exactly. When you are trying to find supporting material for this escahtology or that, the signs will always seem to be there- but that is because these terrible events happens constantly, however easy it is to group them together while viewing them through "endtimes" goggles.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

astraladdict

Let's say nothing does happen in 2012, what will the people who were so convinced there was, do? Vice Versa.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

blis

Quote from: astraladdict on September 24, 2011, 16:02:03
Let's say nothing does happen in 2012, what will the people who were so convinced there was, do?

Pick a new date probably.

astraladdict

Quote from: blis on September 24, 2011, 16:16:44
Pick a new date probably.

How many times have they done that already? -___-

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

Xanth

Quote from: astraladdict on September 24, 2011, 16:17:27
How many times have they done that already? -___-

~astraladdict
Since the dawn of civilization? 

I don't think we can count that high... this century alone, at least a dozen times.

Lionheart

 I don't think there has been a build up as publicized as the 2012 thing though. Even Y2K didn't get multiple books, TV and movies made about it. All over the world every culture has a belief in the 2012 phenom. That is what makes it so powerful and hard to ignore. I personally would love to see a boost in the Collective Consciousness as an outcome to all this. I'm not on board with the Doom and Gloom scenarios, although it is true that this planet can not sustain this worldwide population and further without some kind of change occurring.

Rudolph

Quote from: Stillwater on September 24, 2011, 07:27:01
If these five possibilities were racehorses, I feel number one would likely have an astronomically low pay-off  :wink:

Nuclear war is still always a possibility at any time though, and I could also conceive of how a group could be motivated to stage an alien threat in order to fear-monger for more military spending.

It is astounding how the global economic collapse (sans nuclear event) unfolding right now before our very eyes is simply going unnoticed....

duhh....

duuuuhhhhhh....

First Greece.

Then Portugal, Ireland and Italy....

Then France....

then the rest of the world's banks.

No Nuclear bomb required. No alien invasion.

Just a world full of total brain dead zombie like hope and change believers clinging to their Marxist/Socialist Udopian Fantasy.

that is all you need... it is just that simple....

The more purely traditional and Capitalistic the community, the faster the phoenix will rise from the ashes. Places like Texas....

:wink:

:-)
Beware the fake "seeker" who finds Truth to be abusive.

NoY

I think we will all turn into tomatoes  :|


:NoY:

Stillwater

Texas is one of the most unregulated markets in the entire US. They also have by far one of the highest rates of unemployment, and the weakest insurance/medical situations.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Rudolph

#23
Quote from: Stillwater on September 24, 2011, 22:14:17
Texas is one of the most unregulated markets in the entire US. They also have by far one of the highest rates of unemployment, and the weakest insurance/medical situations.


This is typical Leftist misinformation.

California, Michigan and Nevada have the worst unemployment while Texas is near average;
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

The Texas unemployment situation got worse with the brain dead Obama Oil drilling ban and the EPAs silly campaign in West Texas.

Over half of all new jobs created in the last year were created in Texas
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/over-half-all-new-jobs-created-last-year-were-created-texas#ixzz1YySAYPEo

It is a long term trend;

Texas has gained more than 1 million net new jobs in the decade Perry has led the state. And it's been going strong since the recession ended.

"We are home to fewer than one in 10 Americans ... but four in 10 new American jobs are in our state," he told a conference of state legislators from around the nation this week.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/12/news/economy/perry_texas_jobs/index.htm


They actually have one of the Strongest medical situations. (The states with so called "better" plans are going bankrupt -- at which point the citizens can brag about the great plan that they had when it completely went under).

Beware the fake "seeker" who finds Truth to be abusive.

astraladdict

Hey!? ... I live in texas :/  It sucks here though xD, i can say that the unemployment here is mainly from laziness. The areas that i am close the people just worry about "gang banging" ( not in the sexual term you pervs. ) and selling/doing drugs.

Another cause for unemployment is experience. First hand i can say that most, of not all jobs out there require you to have experience to get hired. Me with my auto technician for example. To work on cars i need that experience to get the high payment area, but also the know how.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...