getting up

[Jeff_Mash]

Hmmmm.....I would think that if you're already laying there, and your astral eyes are wide open, then you've already made the transistion to using your astral body as opposed to your physical one.

Therefore, in that state, you should be able to just move your astral limbs and roll out.

Perhaps you can explain a little bit more about what happens while you're laying there with full astral vision.  Are you vibrating?  Do you feel anything?  Do you hear anything?  Can you move?  etc.

[harlequin_star]

yeah, vibrations and all that ost of the time. .and usually my breathing is impossibly deep, kinda like slo mo- abe like im breathing for two people or something. Each time is different, sometimes i can hear whispers, distant talking, music.
   i cant ever seem to like float up from where i lay, ill just be lying there and then my arms will rise up without me thinking about it-just for no reason. But they're my actual arms, not any astral thing.
i thinking i might not be doing something that im suppose to be doing. but yeah. thank ya

[harlequin_star]

hey, i can get myself into a trance and feel my astral body, but i cant get up. .like to walk around or whatever. I OBE'd once already, but ever since then (a couple days ago) i havent been able to get up from my physical body. I just figured i needed more practise. Also, whenever im in the trance my astral eyes open, like, automatically. .and its sometimes harder to concentrate. Anyway . .help and comments and suggestions and whatever PLEASE!! thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou