Astral Battles & Clans ?

[Lookedynamixhales]

Right so I'm reading up on net about trying to get within the Astral realms/planes and what do i end up reading? something i find humerus and somewhat a tad ridiculous i came across a group of individuals who according to them. Are the "chosen" ones of light to extinguish demons within the realms interlocked in battles to save the physical :') I have found when learning to project not only does your consciousness expand but to a degree your intelligence on the subject of reality should grow too. Now i know i will never become a genius i know this but i think i have learned a lot. But these guys are not "trolling" they genuinely believe their experiences are truly like an Anime show with energy beams and epic battles with the physical depending on them. Anyways thought i would share :')

Looke  

[Lionheart]

 Yes, through the years a few of these "Astral Warriors" came here to recruit people.

Different strokes for different folks! 

[Lookedynamixhales]

Aha Really? Oh my how interesting I agree i am not saying they are bad people they truly believe they are on the path of righteousness but its a shame they clearly have skills i feel they have limited themselves in something truly amazing it also borders and flirts with delusion and ignorance but hey. As long as i don't appear in the astral and asked to wear energy chain mail and wield an astral blade i am happy  

[Szaxx]

So you don't want to ride on something resembling a horse with a suit of some glowing flexy armour after an enemy?
Don't blame you at all.
You will find not having a body at all doesn't stop you.


Look at the light warriors as specialists, it's their trade and they may help keep us all safe.

[roman67]

I agree with Szaxx. That's not your mistake. I have never heard about it.

[drake]

For the battles horses are the best options saxx.

[Szaxx]

They can be very useful in the right place. When not they have the efficacy of bows and arrows against thunder and lightning.

[Lookedynamixhales]

If the opportunity to test run the Iron Man Mk42 armour presented itself to me i would willingly pilot it within the astral

[Szaxx]

Take this into the 3D void with you. Your thoughts will become your actions, if you're good enough at it that is.
I'm soon posting a retrieval that you'll love. It may take a while though, its very related to this thread.

[Lookedynamixhales]

Ahhh awesome make sure to share a link Szaxx I will defiantly give it a read ... Also i haven't been to the Astral properly yet so i am not skilled enough yet would love to give it ago as I am huge Iron Man nerd

[Simo]

Cool now their hunger for destruction  reaches the astral 

[Lookedynamixhales]

Cool now their hunger for destruction  reaches the astral 

Explain ? Do you mean their actions cause harm or an in balance of some sort to the Astral?

[Wi11iam]

Look at the light warriors as specialists, it's their trade and they may help keep us all safe.

That was funny!

Help keep us all safe from figments of their own imaginations! 

[Mendel]

I can't completely discount real negative astral forces based on my experiences despite the fact i wouldn't expect it. Conventional thinking is that the astral is the home to dead personalities who hang out until they re-merge with their Greater self. It's possible that in their meanderings, some of these personalities form alliances that together could have a noticeable (but not sizable) effect Here. 

[Lookedynamixhales]

I guess its all within your own perspective?

[Szaxx]

And between the lines a subject does read.
William got it, they're special...

[Astralzombie]

That was funny!

Help keep us all safe from figments of their own imaginations! 

Don't be so quick to judge and discount the experiences of others. It wasn't all that long ago that most of the world thought that people who believed they were actually communicating with entities trough a Ouija board were nuts also.

Many people held that belief as recently as one second ago.

[Wi11iam]

Don't be so quick to judge and discount the experiences of others. It wasn't all that long ago that most of the world thought that people who believed they were actually communicating with entities trough a Ouija board were nuts also.

Many people held that belief as recently as one second ago.

Excuse me?

I wasn't judging or discounting anyone's experience, certainly I didn't infer anyone was 'nuts'.  I was however laughing at the thought of needing the protection of those who have created these 'thought forms'.  As I and others have said quiet often, there is a property of the 'non physical' which responds to the individual imagination and manifests these as subjective reality.

There is a funny side to understanding that there are individuals like these 'light warriors' who are not aware that they create that which they are fighting, and take their war very seriously. 

Sometimes laughter helps - I am laughing at the belief, not at those who believe...

[Wi11iam]

I can't completely discount real negative astral forces based on my experiences despite the fact i wouldn't expect it. Conventional thinking is that the astral is the home to dead personalities who hang out until they re-merge with their Greater self. It's possible that in their meanderings, some of these personalities form alliances that together could have a noticeable (but not sizable) effect Here. 

Well there is that aspect, worthwhile paying some attention to -

[Lookedynamixhales]

I have to be honest and say i agree with Wi11iam it is comical and ironic if to say they where fighting "negs" created from there own sub conscious as i do believe this is the main source of negative entities but that's just how i view it. I am not one to push my views or beliefs on someone but these people from what i read where in a bitter delusion with out an open mind dead set in the fact they where saving the world. I would love to visit the Astral properly and see what it has to offer. I just thought these "clans" could almost be pointlessly living out some sort of fantasy giving them a warped sense of dependance.

Looke

P.S I hope i haven't offended anyone in this post. I have respect on anything anybody has to offer

[Astralzombie]

I was not offended in the least.

They way you described these guys, it does sound comical and cartoonish. The flip side is that they are pushing this stuff on people who have vulnerable psyches and they don't have the personal experiences that tell them this is all self manifested. They think they are doing good but in reality all they are doing is encouraging people to live in fear of this stuff. As someone who has seen this belief ruin lives, it's not funny at all.

[Szaxx]

A forced religion in essence. Thats not funny at all, they're probably not aware of this too.
Once educated, the vulnerable can become masters of the darkness. Thats not in every case unfortunately.

[Wi11iam]

Worlds within worlds.

I think of the stories I have read about people who meet 'retrievers' who go to these 'hells' and try to convince people suffering that they don't need to be there.

Now it could be that the whole process is a creation of the retrievers own manifested imagination and if so this would raise questions on how anyone else could experience someones elses manifested reality as something real in their own, which they can then report back to this physical reality as a real experience they have had.

One can see how these things start and how they grow.  The subject of and belief in hell has been around for a long time and it could be explained that if enough individuals believe it exists then it can exist as a shared objective reality in the non physical.

The retrievers are often reported as going into the hell and trying to convince those they are trying to retrieve that what they are experiencing is a product of the victims imagination (and there is not always any success with this approach) but I wonder at the role of retriever.

They are most likely (and I have read things along these lines) those who believe in heaven and once the death of the body occurs and they move into the void which has the properties to instantly manifest - they then behold their heaven and their Gods and teachers and expectations are manifested to support their situation...all self created.

And there are also retrievers who are going into these heavens to try and convince those stuck there that the place is not real and there is far more.

Sometimes there is success and then there is the realization that while on earth they had gone around spreading the belief in heaven and hell and as a result those individuals are partly responsible for the predicament of those individuals experiencing these hells, so they become retrievers as a way of atonement for their part in this ripple effect...it is likely thus very busy in those areas as individual try to correct the misinformation and restore the individual to a fuller knowledge.

All very serious...
...from  a variety of points of view.

I can think of better things to be involved with than having to fish for lost souls and reel them into reality.  It is one of the reasons I am so intent on getting it right here and now as best as possible.  I have no interest in having to atone for spreading rumor as if it were the truth.

[Lookedynamixhales]

Of course the thought of forced beliefs isn't funny, But i found the situation quite comical in a light hearted fashion but i also felt uncomfortable ...You know what i will find the posts

[Astralzombie]

Hold on...Wait a sec. No one has to justify their feelings here. I completely understand what you guys are saying and I'm not uptight about all this. I was just stating an informed opinion. I find humor in all sorts of stuff that in reality is misery to someone else. That's where humor is doing it's best work.

Mel Brooks took a lot of heat for making comedy out of Hitler and Nazism and his reason for doing so was that there was no greater way to show how good prevails than to laugh at it's enemies. I think he makes a valid point.

But South Park pointed out that you have to wait 22.5 years before you can laugh at something that is taboo.