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« on: July 11, 2021, 12:36:44 »

Could someone please pull my astral body out of my physical body? I feel like I am stuck here... Also I am not a big fan of jumpscares, so please be gentle Tongue

I am going to bed right now, I'll try and wait for a real experience Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2021, 23:31:04 »

To go out of your body you must go inward. To my knowledge people who get pulled out have already reached projection point.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2021, 06:02:57 »

There is likely a relatively small group of people who could manage the energy and intent to “pull you out”. More importantly, there is likely an even smaller group within that subset who actually would choose to “pull you out”…

There are reasons too numerous to go into; an important one may be to not interfere directly unless there is a very valid reason. Also maybe a “pay grade” kind of thing…a lot of responsibility involved.

Like Nameless suggested, this should go inward as a request to your higher/inner self or to your guides. Don’t ask outwards as this may invite unwanted influences.

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2021, 20:13:14 »

Could someone please pull my astral body out of my physical body? I feel like I am stuck here... Also I am not a big fan of jumpscares, so please be gentle Tongue

I am going to bed right now, I'll try and wait for a real experience Smiley
 

Next time you're trying and you feel stuck, ask someone to help you.  I did that once and was immediately grabbed by my ankles.  Of course I freaked out like a bonehead but I don't think I actually believed anyone would, it wasn't even something I thought about, it just thought, "help me, I'm stuck!" and someone did. I started yelling and kicking my feet and my husband said I was kicking my feet and making noise so he nudged me and brought me completely out of the experience.  I don't know why it scared me so, but there ya are.   tongue
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 13:51:35 »

This did not go as expected, still unable to project, is there anyone who cares for me in this world? lol Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2021, 14:00:46 »

To go out of your body you must go inward. To my knowledge people who get pulled out have already reached projection point.

The three spatial degree of freedoms that i'm actually aware of are the usual left right front back up down axes, i find it difficult to figure out the fourth spatial dimension, that is inward outward, except when i close my eyes and go visually blank...
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2021, 14:05:43 »

 

Next time you're trying and you feel stuck, ask someone to help you.  I did that once and was immediately grabbed by my ankles.  Of course I freaked out like a bonehead but I don't think I actually believed anyone would, it wasn't even something I thought about, it just thought, "help me, I'm stuck!" and someone did. I started yelling and kicking my feet and my husband said I was kicking my feet and making noise so he nudged me and brought me completely out of the experience.  I don't know why it scared me so, but there ya are.   tongue

The people around here obviously have no clue about these mystical teachings of astral projection or similar, that's why i said i feel stuck, so my only escape plan is that i could ask for help on the web T_T cry
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2021, 20:19:53 »

Try this fatfooty. Lie or sit down, relax, now listen to your heartbeat, attune your breathing to match. Now as you relax allow yourself to follow your heartbeat down. Your heartbeat and breathing should slow significantly as well as your external awareness. This is going inward. The doorway to outer exploration is deep inside you.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2021, 21:23:05 »

Exxxxcellent. ( I was almost out by the end of your sentence.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2021, 14:03:56 »

The people around here obviously have no clue about these mystical teachings of astral projection or similar, that's why i said i feel stuck, so my only escape plan is that i could ask for help on the web T_T cry

Well, that's not very fair to say....   It's not up to others to do what can only be done by yourself.  It took me YEARS of DAILY meditation and just immersing myself in the topic to get to a trance state and have experiences.  I only had a few conscious separations from my physical, mostly I faded into a lucid state or found myself in a dark void and then went from there.  Don't stress out if you are not aware of the physical separation, you'll get to the astral one way or another.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2021, 01:15:20 »

To add to Naykid, it took me well over 10 years to figure this stuff out.

Nobody here is going to pull you out, but what we CAN do is help guide you and answer your questions.
So far, you haven't asked any.

Tell us what you're currently trying... maybe what books you're reading... maybe how long you've been trying for... and then we can actually help you.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2021, 11:03:39 »

To add to Naykid, it took me well over 10 years to figure this stuff out.

Nobody here is going to pull you out, but what we CAN do is help guide you and answer your questions.
So far, you haven't asked any.

Tell us what you're currently trying... maybe what books you're reading... maybe how long you've been trying for... and then we can actually help you.  Smiley

You know what, I am not a big fan of reading long books, my biggest wish is to figure out a way to get directly to the exact point that I am missing, while skipping all the non sense and bluffing. But although I do not like it, I still have to browse through and read some internet articles, I only read an ebook if I find it interesting enough, call me lazy or crazy, I take no offense...

Also I see no point in struggling for an answer. Why shall I struggle to get to my wish or desire? Is it to prove my worth? But to prove it to who? Is there a higher council or entity that governs our lives? Then where are they now? Why they keep running a desperate world full of sickness and misery? Is it for their own enjoyment? Those suckers do not deserve their status and this doesn't make any sense to me...
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2021, 15:49:44 »

You know what, I am not a big fan of reading long books, my biggest wish is to figure out a way to get directly to the exact point that I am missing, while skipping all the non sense and bluffing. But although I do not like it, I still have to browse through and read some internet articles, I only read an ebook if I find it interesting enough, call me lazy or crazy, I take no offense...

Also I see no point in struggling for an answer. Why shall I struggle to get to my wish or desire? Is it to prove my worth? But to prove it to who? Is there a higher council or entity that governs our lives? Then where are they now? Why they keep running a desperate world full of sickness and misery? Is it for their own enjoyment? Those suckers do not deserve their status and this doesn't make any sense to me...

I will give you a few hints about the purpose of existence. Eventually you will come to realization, but if you dont initiate self learning, you will be stuck in this framework for a while and no one is to blame but yourself.

-Knowledge has to be self realized, but acting to search for knowledge through various sources and accepting responsibilities for our own failures is necessary.
-No external sources are causing our failures or lack of knowledge. This falls strictly on the individual character
-No one is obligated to help anyone. Although guides and teachers do it because they understand the oneness and the ultimate love. However, they do not do our homework for us. That would be cheating. They guide, but do not solve problems for us. Each spirit has to make efforts. If not, then the spirit will be stuck. Eventually learning is achieved.
-Unfortunate events are never inflicted upon characters/spirits. They are manifestations of personal beliefs and also pre-set framework(by the spirit) of lessons before entering learning realities.
-The spirit does not have to prove anything to anyone. The efforts are made for own benefits and knowledge expansion. Misunderstanding of the dynamic of communication and interaction with other consciousness will get you stuck.
-Others perceive us exactly the way we think of ourselves. If we want others to respect us, we have to respect ourselves. If we want others to love us, we have to love ourselves and know our worth.
-We create our own reality through our beliefs. The point of power is in the present, where false beliefs can be evaluated and changed
-desires and beliefs are two different things. Reality is created through beliefs. We may desire one thing but if we believe otherwise, desire will not manifest. The belief needs to be changed. For example, you think that this world has sickness and suffering. You may desire health and joy, but this very belief that you stated above will keep you exactly within sickness and suffering.
-Observation of sickness and suffering is undeniable of course, but each individual spirit ahs set these circumstances in order to learn and to realize their power to change beliefs. The belief that there are many probabilities including these of health and joy is what can trigger the spirit to start choosing from the pool of probabilities to draw upon itself exactly what desired. Sickness and suffering is for those who hold on to it and materialize it. If I want to draw something else from the pool of possibilities, I will have to acknowledge and take it via belief that it exist and I am worthy. Anyone is worthy, but if you believe that you are not worthy, then you will be stuck.
-There is no one/or group of entities who controls the spirits lives and set up pain and suffering to watch and enjoy. The spirit make its own choices on how to set up lessons to gain knowledge and expands.
-When spirits enter schools as various characters, they set up limitations on purpose to isolate the focus upon certain lessons. This is the limitation you are perceiving and do not understand many things. but this is set up by you on purpose before you entered this character. Take the opportunity to complete the lesson. Otherwise it will have to repeat again and again and again until you decide to start paying attention to your life and take responsibilities to analyze your beliefs.




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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2021, 03:37:23 »

You know what, I am not a big fan of reading long books, my biggest wish is to figure out a way to get directly to the exact point that I am missing, while skipping all the non sense and bluffing. But although I do not like it, I still have to browse through and read some internet articles, I only read an ebook if I find it interesting enough, call me lazy or crazy, I take no offense...
How do you know what is nonsense and bluffing and what is real?

I always suggest people gain experience before making a judgment call, but realistically, people read all about this stuff BEFORE they stumble here.  So most people already have a preconceived notion about what "astral projection" is.
I'd suggest putting aside your personal beliefs as much as you can while visiting this forum.  You will gain much more insight.

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This is your first major hurdle then... because there isn't a person alive or ever was or will be who can help you.  Only *YOU* can help yourself here.

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But to prove it to who?
Again, that's up to you.  There's really only YOU in on this.

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Is there a higher council or entity that governs our lives? Then where are they now?
I haven't found one.  Others have.  Meh.  I live my life in the best way I think I can.  

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Why they keep running a desperate world full of sickness and misery? Is it for their own enjoyment? Those suckers do not deserve their status and this doesn't make any sense to me...
The only way to answer this is to not look at the "sickness and misery", but all of the good and light there is in this world.

I look at this world and (usually - I'll be honest, I have my darkness) see a hell of a lot more good and light than I see bad.  MUCH MORE.  You are focusing on the sickness and the misery and missing the forest for the trees.  This Earth is comprised of many souls along their journeys and each of them is at a different point in that journey.  I feel like this Earth wasn't created with the idea of it becoming a utopian society - I mean it will happen naturally, eventually, just no time soon.  We're too far from that idea as a species right now.

This physical reality is kind of an incubator of learning to love.  It's, essentially a class room where we learn what is TRULY important in life.  I won't delve much deeper than that right now.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2021, 17:22:45 »

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Thanks for your replies but I do not agree with everything you have said.

How do I know the non sense and bluffing?

Well isn't it obvious? If it's not instant or close to instant yielding results then why shall I ever look for the non physical or the uncommon? If there is no magic in it just a mere copy of the sick physical reality that is built on endless demands of give me this expensive sum for your desires then why shall I ever think about it? It's the potential value of the other worlds that draws me to this area of thoughts, what else then? Sorry if i'm being arrogant in my speech to you but that's how it is and how I see it now. I know that I have personal desires and I won't be satisfied unless (may be) I have them all fulfilled at little to no cost of course. Because this world business wasn't my creation, a system of greedy trades that do not care about the well being of the minority or that of the individuals, I do not buy into this sick system of beliefs. Angry If you ever wanted something and your desire for it was eternal are you willing to keep paying for that thing forever to obtain it? This doesn't make sense at all, it's just another form of slavery, and thus I believe that (some??) desires shall be free to obtain as long as there is no one complaining. May be the non physical is the answer to my quest or may be it's technology, I still do not know it for sure...
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2021, 17:57:24 »

That's ok, you will receive the "knowing" when the time is right for you.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2021, 18:08:51 »

The only way to answer this is to not look at the "sickness and misery", but all of the good and light there is in this world.

Ignoring the negative things while they exist is not a good strategy to deal with life, it is a form of dangerous escape. Are you up for the thrills? However ignoring them while they DO NOT exist is different of course and I may agree with you that this is a good way to live. Being too positive can turn humans into silly dumb beings that do not think for themselves or the others. A little selfish moment could lead to a better realization of "the corruption" that is and can strike at any moment if neglected.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2021, 19:21:03 »

Ignoring the negative things while they exist is not a good strategy to deal with life, it is a form of dangerous escape. Are you up for the thrills? However ignoring them while they DO NOT exist is different of course and I may agree with you that this is a good way to live. Being too positive can turn humans into silly dumb beings that do not think for themselves or the others. A little selfish moment could lead to a better realization of "the corruption" that is and can strike at any moment if neglected.
I'm beginning to see how you think now...

I never said ignore the bad.  You can't ignore the bad... you have to take the bad along with the good.  There has to be balance in ALL things - bad can't exist without good. 
I'm saying just don't focus exclusively on the bad - that's a recipe to drive you nuts.  haha

There's a hell of a lot more good in this world than there is bad. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2021, 02:57:57 »

I'm beginning to see how you think now...

I never said ignore the bad.  You can't ignore the bad... you have to take the bad along with the good.  There has to be balance in ALL things - bad can't exist without good.  
I'm saying just don't focus exclusively on the bad - that's a recipe to drive you nuts.  haha

There's a hell of a lot more good in this world than there is bad.  

I turned off all types of news sources, I don't listen to AM radio anymore when driving anymore. I watch some sports podcasts I enjoy and when I play computer games I only play singleplayer games or mute other players in multiplayer to avoid toxicity. I notice when I don’t focus on news or what’s going on in the world my reality changes around me. It’s crazy how you can kinda get sucked into that stuff so much it becomes your world and you see all the bad in everything around you. I stopped news and all social media and everything doesn’t seem as heavy and life is not as stressful. I perceive a lot differently. The world definitely is not roses and unicorns but disconnecting can do wonders! It may seem like I live under a rock sometimes and i’m not as knowledgeable in politics and what’s going on there but there is not a excrement I can do about any of that stuff anyway… So you can kinda just become a silent observer Cheesy I think sometimes information is good if you wanna know what’s going on etc but man oh man when you don’t focus on those things life becomes a hell of a lot gentler and you don’t see dark everywhere. I think everybody is just trying to do the best they can too. It’s up to us to decide how we handle situations. That is one thing i can control… is how i deal with the crazy things that happen in life. What i focus my attention on seems to have a great deal of impact in my life. That includes music, movies, all of that stuff.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2021, 09:34:23 »

I'm beginning to see how you think now...
  

Haha are you sure? Did you simply trust what I said? I can be crazy sometimes, I can even not make sense at all, so how did you come to this weirdest conclusion?
Ok using a similar interpretation technique like yours, I would assume you wanted me to ask some questions in a previous post:
Well here I have this one for you that's been haunting me since a long while now:
How does meaning arise from meaningless symbols? Do the symbols of every alphabet have any meaning or are they just random pictograms and sounds?
There's another form to this question: Does "god" speak gibberish? Why? Because gibberish is the closest to the unknown...
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2021, 15:09:06 »

-There is no one/or group of entities who controls the spirits lives and set up pain and suffering to watch and enjoy.

Are you really sure about this? Then why do I have this undeniable doubt that there is indeed someone maybe from far a far who is watching our very struggle while laughing their asses off of it? Your claim being valid depends on whether an all seeing eye mechanism exists or not, which is quite hard to investigate from a limited perspective. See now day computers are indeed like Galadriel once said, a mirror that can show everything to a degree, this is quite the case for a computer to be able of showing the lives of every human who roamed the earth. A computer if equipped with an all seeing eye software can indeed do this job and in real time as well. So a being with certain access to this device can indeed watch the very struggle of every man or woman and if they are the kind of ultimate scumm, they'll be laughing and enjoying it as well. The all seeing eye symbolism has been present since too long and I believe that with the rise of technology, that it can become a reality for the luckiest few if not it being the case actually.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2021, 15:19:06 »

Are you really sure about this? Then why do I have this undeniable doubt that there is indeed someone maybe from far a far who is watching our very struggle while laughing their asses off of it? Your claim being valid depends on whether an all seeing eye mechanism exists or not, which is quite hard to investigate from a limited perspective. See now day computers are indeed like Galadriel once said, a mirror that can show everything to a degree, this is quite the case for a computer to be able of showing the lives of every human who roamed the earth. A computer if equipped with an all seeing eye software can indeed do this job and in real time as well. So a being with certain access to this device can indeed watch the very struggle of every man or woman and if they are the kind of ultimate scumm, they'll be laughing and enjoying it as well. The all seeing eye symbolism has been present since too long and I believe that with the rise of technology, that it can become a reality for the luckiest few if not it being the case actually.

You are looking through a very narrow perspective typical for a physical character. Lack of awareness of the multiverse and the spirit's journey causes this. I will say no more, as you have a long way to go to reach a higher understanding. Good luck!
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2021, 15:44:28 »

Read my first reply. Knowledge can not be given. It has to be achieved by each person via self learning and first hand experiences. Change your attitude, work on your believes, ask the universe to present you with opportunities to learn, recognize these lessons to extract knowledge. Everything that is happening to you is a lesson. Ask yourself, am I learning from each challenging situation, or am I blaming external sources. Take actions to become the best version of your character, forgive without repentance, and walk with love.
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2021, 15:59:37 »

Read my first reply. Knowledge can not be given. It has to be achieved by each person via self learning and first hand experiences. Change your attitude, work on your believes, ask the universe to present you with opportunities to learn, recognize these lessons to extract knowledge. Everything that is happening to you is a lesson. Ask yourself, am I learning from each challenging situation, or am I blaming external sources. Take actions to become the best version of your character, forgive without repentance, and walk with love.

Oh I think you forgot the do the happy dance and the smile while you fart Tongue
I really hope life was this simple but I would look kinda silly if I were to try this in public. I live in a sad themed society and I am from a religious background as well. So I would feel very embarrassed and weird if I attempted such things. But hey thanks anyway...
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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2021, 16:57:40 »

I live in a sad themed society and I am from a religious background as well. So I would feel very embarrassed and weird if I attempted such things.

You have just identified your very limitations whether you realize it or not. They will keep you where you are until you open your mind. And who will witness your attempts for you to get embarrassed? They are strictly yours, you don't have to share them or demonstrate them with anyone that is not aligned with your beliefs. Everything happens within yourself. On the exterior, be kind to everyone, do everything with love and you will start attracting like events and people. In the interior within your mind you can practice AP, meditate, ask the universe for guidance, pay attention to all events in your life and think what are the lessons, am I learning them or am I blaming external sources.
If you don't understand what am I saying then there is nothing else I can do for you at this point, as you need to go through all grades first before graduating. We have provided you with the seeds to grow opportunities for knowledge ( you asked for suggestions and now you don't accept them). It's up to you if you want to take these seeds, nurture them and let them sprout. Or you  can ignore them and continue being stuck where you are. Eventually though every spirit learns, it just takes hundreds of thousands of life times if not more of challenges to get there. But you will.

I will not post on this topic any more as your time to understand is not here yet. Hopefully you will recall this information when you are ready in your own time.
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