Souly for Retrievals!

[EscapeVelocity]

TMI/Lifeline-

Up until the final three days this course at TMI had felt like a frustrating bust- No sleep and nothing but purple color tours with very little visuals to claim any reference to. I had gotten almost nothing the other 18 class members were sharing; nearly everybody was reporting positive results. On some level, I did realize that something personal, something special to me was occurring...an energetic, maybe spiritual change...maybe it was just my hopeful imagination...I was very tired and very despondent.

But even within this frustration, I had to admit that I had still received more than glimpses of F27 and the Reception Center, the Park and the Healing and Rejuvenation Center (the Hospital). It wasn't as much as I had hoped for, but it was something substantial enough that I could pursue, that I might validate to my satisfaction.

Day Four put me into F27 and I felt that I actually entered the HR Center and asked for healing for myself. I experienced an old dream of healing that I had originally rejected and this time, with a clearer understanding, I allowed it to complete: the 'veggie-chopper'.

Day Five, I did my first retrieval, the one with the soldier.

Day Six, the final day, I did three sessions, the first was a re-visit to the Healing Center where I underwent another 'blending' kind of healing process, similar to the veggie chopper. During this session, I also received the idea that F23 also includes areas known as Purgatory and what I have come to understand as as the Badlands. Maybe 'post-Hell areas'?

The next session I tried to contact a friend who had passed six years ago (just to check on her) but was again unsuccessful; but came away with the feeling that she was okay. I then went into the retrieval of the woman who had been buried while still aware (last retrieval posted in this thread).

The final afternoon session turned out to be my most complex situation of the week. Most TMI sessions are around 45 minutes, maybe as short as thirty or as long as an hour, it varies...and as a participant, you can't really tell. I went to my 'resort' in F27, then flew over to the Park and once given permission to descend for a retrieval, I did.

I materialized 1500 feet over a desert and I 'felt' I was over the Badlands...it was an endless desert and way down below me was what I guess a Bedouin man wandering lost in the desert. I floated down near him and he barely took notice of me as he struggled along. I floated a few inches above the sand and paced along with him. I finally said hello and he acknowledged me almost begrudgingly. I asked, are you doing okay? And he said, yes, I am managing...

I offered my help and he refused. I asked why? And he said because I don't know if you are a devil or an angel. I thought about my appearance and just how I was presenting myself; I think I made an intention to 'brighten' myself but that was all; I did not want to misrepresent myself. I said to him that I am a person just like you but I am here with the ability to help you. He said that makes no sense, you are either one or the other, an angel or a devil. I said I won't pretend to you that I am an angel, I am not...but I am also not a devil. If I was a devil, would I just not take you now?!

He looked at me and said if you are not a devil or an angel then you are just a mirage and I am mad. I said that I am not a mirage and not a devil and not an angel, but maybe a friend who can help you out of this situation. He questioned, How do I know you are not a mirage? I said, because I KNOW that I am not a mirage...or a devil...

He said, How do I know you are what you say you are and not madness of my mind? I responded, You don't know...but at some point, you will have to trust.

This conversation went on for what seemed like the whole 45 minutes, if not what felt like hours, honestly it felt like an incredibly long time...I finally left him in silence and floated along with him as he wandered. I said, You notice that I leave no footprints? He said, Yes I clearly see that.

I poked a few questions which clearly aggravated him: How many weeks, months or years have you been out here? (He couldn't recall how long) Isn't it interesting that, in all this wandering, you have never come across your own footprints? (That irritated him) When was the last time you had a drink of water? A man couldn't go for much more than a day out here without water, you would just die...has it been weeks or months? (that seemed to have finally set the realization within him).

The Hemi-Sync Return Signal had sounded, a kind of low volume clarion/foghorn that brings about a certain recognition of place within the environment and also signals the return instructions that will follow; the session was coming to an end. I felt the need to quicken the pace or I might lose this whole scenario. I started to float away and upward from my Bedouin companion. He sensed this and implored me, where are you going? I said that it was time for me to leave and he needed to make a decision; I added that if he was not ready then I or another would become available to him when he was ready. This produced a definite response and he reached toward me and I took his hand. I said to him, Look, it can't be any worse than where you are right now. And he agreed. Holding his hand, we lifted off the sand and his eyes widened...as we rose higher I could tell the Physical Reality symptoms were leaving him: the tiredness, the hunger, the thirst...as all of these physical issues left him, he became lighter and more free. I felt good and in control as we moved towards F27 where I would drop him off.

But that's not what happened. If I had indeed picked him up in F23...we still had to move through and beyond the Belief System Territories of F24/25/26...the BST's...not a problem for me, but what about him?

That had not been an issue for me...until now. As we rose up from F23, I felt a strong grip with his hand. Heading for 27, I was surprised when I felt the loss of his grip somewhere around F24/25...he fell off and disappeared somewhere below...

After all this effort and expectation, I was just a little frustrated...what had happened?! The realization did not occur to me instantly, so I re-scripted the event... I was back in F23 hauling him back up by the hand, and I held on even tighter, with more determination...and he still let go and fell off in 24/25...and I could not stop it...

So I did it again! I re-scripted...held his hand, gripped it even tighter, put more determination and Intent into it...I was gonna get this man into F27...and as we rose higher through the frequencies...he fell off somewhere into F24/25...I just could not stop it.

The realization finally hit ME! This man had gone to where he needed to go, not where I thought he needed to go.

I came down to the debriefing late and sat in silence with twenty other people describing their experiences...and in absolute wonderment...and a certain degree of bewilderment at what I had just experienced.

[Windwalker.]

Ur at TMI right now EV? Does TMI purposefully keep you tired so you are constantly on the fringe of theta brainwaves? What classes did you take? I definitely wanna check it out some day.

[Volgerle]

Fantastic retrieval experience, EV.

So my conclusion would be: It can be about helping the deceased people climbing further up the ladder which does not mean that they necessarily reach the top of it so fast or with one jump so to speak.

I checked the Focus Levels again and if I am right he was then attracted to some kind of religious BST then according to his beliefs in his past life?

https://www.monroeinstituteuk.org/focus-levels/

Focus 24 – The site of non-physical activity generated by simple or primitive religious or cultural beliefs.

Focus 25 – The expression of the major organized religious beliefs in recent human history.

So you helped him move on/up anyway. Just from his own astral 'badland' (or hell) to F24/25. He wasn't ready and able to go higher (nearer to his original home / Source). But he might be better off now in a BST and can move on from there 'later at another time'.

[Lumaza]

 EV, I second Volergle's comment here. "What a fantastic Retrieval experience", with such great memory recall as well!

 All I can say is that this further validates my past comments about "expecting the unexpected". Just when you thought you knew the "rule's"/lay of the land", it changes.

 It looks like your "Retrievee" needed to be "slow rolled". He wasn't quite ready to move to the end of the process, which could also be known as his "new beginning". That would be so cool if you were called on in the future to help him move onto his next step. That you could retrieve him once again. You already know him, so the "trust factor" is there.  

[EscapeVelocity]

Windwalker- No, I am not currently at TMI. My retrieval experiences were from January 2019 at the Lifeline course. TMI feeds you three times a day with great food and there is plenty of time to sleep, so no, they don't force you to stay awake, lol. My lack of sleep was purely my problem and you may be right in that my Higher self (?) was keeping me near that Theta state or breaking down my resistance in some way. It felt like that much of the time...or maybe I just have a sleep disorder, lol. If you ever get the chance to go, I highly recommend it! TMI is great people teaching great courses resulting in transformative experiences!

Volgerle- Thank you and I think you are right. For me, Retrieval is just about getting people unstuck from wherever they are, which is often a confused after-death state. As for the BST's, something about the frequencies of the various levels resonating with different people naturally draws them to those Focus levels. TMI advises us that this may happen during a retrieval and to just trust that the person went to where they needed to go; it just caught me by surprise when it happened.

Thank you Lumaza!

[T-Man]

EV…Sounds like you had a great experience at TMI.  I have read books with authors describing their experiences they had at TMI and they sounded very familiar to yours such as starting off slowly with not much happening and than what seems to be some sort of breakthrough or transformation that takes place near the end…Awesome!  Maybe I will read your book someday or have I already???   

[Nameless]

What a beautiful experience that was EV! You and your retrievee learned something valuable. Your recall is fantastic and I totally agree with Volgerle. He went where he needed to go.

I'm guessing you initially felt like you had failed but you know better now.

For some inexplicable reason I feel excited after reading your post, like maybe something just got answered for me as well.

[Lumaza]

 Last week I listened to a fantastic Radio interview featuring a man named Father Nathan Castle. For 25 years now he has helped over 250 people/souls that died suddenly due to traumatic events, adjust to their current afterlife. As being a "Man of the Cloth", he "perceives" this through the grace of God, which means his descriptions will contain a lot of religious overtones. That didn't bother me though, I always maintain a open mind to new teachings, regardless of where they come from.
 After hearing that 2 hour interview on the radio, I went to look his name up on YouTube and enjoyed all of his material there.

 I perceive what I do via Retrievals in a different way then Father Nathan, but we each share the same goals though.

 Here is a link to his website. I'm sure you will find him fascinating, like I did.
 https://nathan-castle.com/

 For even more videos interviews by him, you can search his name on Youtube.

[Volgerle]

Interesting find. There is also a book as I found out by (very) quick search.
"Afterlife, Interrupted: Helping Stuck Souls Cross Over—A Catholic Priest Explores the Interrupted Death Experience"

You can read his forword in the preview. Good that he says he does not want to teach catholic doctrines or convert anyone. Interesting man indeed. He does not seem to use AP though in a traditional way, does he? He says they seek him out in dreams but then he also seems to converse with them clairvoyant/audiently in waking state, as far as I see it from the first chapter. Here it is:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692187537/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1539311567&sr=1-1#reader_0692187537

[Lumaza]

Interesting find. There is also a book as I found out by (very) quick search.
"Afterlife, Interrupted: Helping Stuck Souls Cross Over—A Catholic Priest Explores the Interrupted Death Experience"

You can read his forword in the preview. Good that he says he does not want to teach catholic doctrines or convert anyone. Interesting man indeed. He does not seem to use AP though in a traditional way, does he? He says they seek him out in dreams but then he also seems to converse with them clairvoyant/audiently in waking state, as far as I see it from the first chapter. Here it is:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692187537/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1539311567&sr=1-1#reader_0692187537

He spoke quite a bit about this book in his interviews as well.
https://nathan-castle.com/product/and-toto-too-the-wizard-of-oz-as-a-spiritual-adventure/

 I sent him a email. We will see if he responds. I have some questions for him. He not only constantly helps those in need in the "NP", he also does it here on a daily basis in this physical realm. I was reading some of his experiences on is website. He went to Oklahoma to aid in the recovery of that devastating Tornado there. He also went to Joplin, MO to aid in their Tornado devastation. He is a true "Saint" at heart! 

[GrumpyRabbit]

I read through this thread with interest. What you guys are describing and call "retrievals" we in the shaman world call it psychopomp work - helping people cross over after they die. What we call "soul retrievals" is bringing back lost soul parts for people who are still alive! Thank you for these descriptions =)

[Lumaza]

I read through this thread with interest. What you guys are describing and call "retrievals" we in the shaman world call it psychopomp work - helping people cross over after they die. What we call "soul retrievals" is bringing back lost soul parts for people who are still alive! Thank you for these descriptions =)

 I was curious about what you were going to say when or if you read this thread. Once again, similarities! 

[GrumpyRabbit]

 I was curious about what you were going to say when or if you read this thread. Once again, similarities! 

Yes! I am so curious if my AP experiences will eventually tie in with my shamanic journeys. Time will tell. Thank goodness I take such detailed notes!

[Volgerle]

I find it a bit  that in this thread about 'human' astral soul rescue nothing has been posted for over 2 (!!) years.

Time to change that now. 

Question to all of you experienced travellers: Has anyone in the 'meantime' had any new retrieval situations in the astral you'd like to share? Mine were rather missing due to an all-time AP low and physical life crises with 'grounding' effects, although I renewed my 'vow' to go for retrieval work next year again.

I am still writing on the book about it (started years ago!) which is almost finished and am still 'collecting' accounts to quote in it with links to the original posts if they are on the internet or reference to the literature.

So far I have around 45 or so accounts (including a few of mine). Quite a lot already.

Anyway, if anyone of you has sth new for me to add I'm grateful. 

Moreover, by coincidence (or not?) yesterday I came across this talk between Juergen Ziewe and an experienced astral retrieval worker named Mike Marable which I found interesting.

This is part three of our discussions  between Mike and myself regarding our Astral Journeys. This time in our chat we put emphasis on the much lower Astral levels, the twilight areas, where the energy is low and people are often desperate to move on, though not knowing how. This is where Astral helpers come in. Mike explains how he goes about his job as a soul retriever. We are discussing how minor shifts in consciousness and focus on metaphors or beacons of light in the lower regions can open worm holes into a higher dimension. It is not always straight forward rescuing people as they can sometime be a drain on the rescuer, if they are not prepared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udgdEozmcs0

 

[Volgerle]

I find it a bit  that in this thread about 'human' astral soul rescue nothing has been posted for over 2 (!!) years.

Time to change that now. 

Question to all of you experienced travellers: Has anyone in the 'meantime' had any new retrieval situations in the astral you'd like to share? Mine were rather missing due to an all-time AP low and physical life crises with 'grounding' effects, although I renewed my 'vow' to go for retrieval work next year again.

I am still writing on the book about it (started years ago!) which is almost finished and am still 'collecting' accounts to quote in it with links to the original posts if they are on the internet or reference to the literature.

So far I have around 45 or so accounts (including a few of mine). Quite a lot already.

Anyway, if anyone of you has sth new for me to add I'm grateful. 

Moreover, by coincidence (or not?) yesterday I came across this talk between Juergen Ziewe and an experienced astral retrieval worker named Mike Marable which I found interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udgdEozmcs0

 

Not anyone

Seems this forum is all about the hype on ETs these days but not for helping former fellow humans?

Not that I love the ET topic too. I do and had my experiences with them (astrally).

Just thought that s.o. of the experienced and still continuously projecting members (unlike me) had a kind of helping experience with stuck humans 'in the meantime'?

Seems the 'dead' retrieval topic is really 'dead' now, quite literally. 

[Nameless]

I think there has been a shift, whether on the astral level or in perceptions I can't say. I have not felt called to a retrieval in quite some time. My work now is more personally focused. I can't speak for others but I personally feel the retrieval work is done.

[LightBeam]

I've had many vivid dreams with on and off awareness in the past few months that involve helping on a mass level. I often have others with me that team up to help the mass consciousness. Before it was more helping individuals that are stuck during APs, but now it has shifted, at least for me. During APs I take control of my experiences and usually I explore based on personal desires. At times I get redirected by some unknown force during APs to help, but that hasn't happened in a while.

[Volgerle]

Very interesting. Yeah, Possibly it's really a shift that happened. It could well be that we are not called upon this activity with individuals at the moment anymore as often as it used to be.

Thanks you for the feedback, Nameless and Lightbeam.