News:

Welcome to the Astral Pulse 2.0!

If you're looking for your Journal, I've created a central sub forum for them here: https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/dream-and-projection-journals/



Deep reflections on free will.

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

PlasmaAstralProjection

Quote from: Szaxx on April 04, 2014, 18:40:52
Free will is something we strive for, it's based on the interpretation of how we live, how we are spiritually, mentally, physically and how we've adapted to our environment.
This is all physical world oriented.
We gave up the real free will by wanting an experience in a limited solid reality.
Once this experience is over, we can reflect on the narrow slit we created that our physical world free will appears to be. In the wider reality it's more than a narrow slit. It's still limited, but to what extent exactly, this is the next level, use your astral awareness and gained knowledge to make a comparison.
You now have two answers that differ.
Does free will exist, or is it an illusion of the psyche?


The spanner has been thrown...
When you say "It's still limited, but to what extent exactly," can you answer that?

I will get to free will in a minute, but first. I've come to the idea that the heart of reality has competing truths; or perhaps a better way to say it is the heart of reality has competing truths with exceptions. Another way to see it is, the heart of reality is ultimate, yet also relative. Kind of like yin and yang still playing out even at the heart of reality. The heart of reality being the unmanifest in Hinduism, and wu chi in taoism, and Shunyata or nirvana in Buddhism. If you don't know what this place is like I strongly suggest you read about it. So this place of reality is said to be both relative and ultimate. A place with absolute nothingness yet full volume. A place of utter peace from all form. A place where there is no sight or feelings or emotions, or anything since you are all those things in one. And this kind of makes sense. There are many seeming dichotomies in the spiritual IMO. But upon closer look we see that these dichotomies are all work together in the long run IMO.

That is why you may seem to see this as dichotomy, but it must be, in order for the universe to evolve. I am assuming that the two dichotomies you were referring to was that we have such a limited free will here. And yet on the other hand, when we die we realize that we didn't have much real free will compared to the other side. Was that the dichotomy you were talking about? So which is the real free will in these two dichotomies?  And the answer is both IMO. Since we must evolve on the physical as a whole in order for the wider reality, or the astral to have less suffering. I will even go a step further and say that we need to evolve in the wider reality in order to prepare us for the physical. As Frank pointed out he doesn't think one is higher and one is lower ultimately speaking. And I will add it's because one can't be without the other. They are all important in the grand scheme of things. Higher and lower are just terms we use to help us understand things from our perspective here on earth. Was that on target?

Peace.

Szaxx

 Good answer, the limitations apply for our conciousness as a singularity. The YOU is one tiny part of the whole.
The Nirvana ect is the ' oneness with everything', until this is experienced you really cannot see the limitations. Speculate as you will, the univeral knowledge gained within the experience is so immense our minds cannot begin to comprehend it.
The nearest we can experience is a data download from the source, an imprint. This gives a minute fraction of information in a microsecond of a mental link and at best we have to break it into tiny pieces to make any sense out if it.
Simply put, if you were given the lord of the rings in an imprint, it would be installed instantly. To understand it you'd have to break down each word within and read it sequentially to know the story. In the physical this would take a week to read. In the NP it would take an several mins to 'unfold', in the oneness this info is instantly known.
These are the limitations, just one example of an infinite number of permutations.
In this example time is used as its a strong physical constraint we all can accept.
The picture is larger than life. Not being capable of understanding the whole is a limitation many may never know. To have an imprint is a start, too many will also not know. At least in the NP anyone has a chance to experience this data download. You then understand this physical existance is lacking in free will in its purest form.
I'd guess a handful of people in all the world know its pure form, my experiences are showing me many limitations, free will itself is subject to interpretation.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

PlasmaAstralProjection

Quote from: Szaxx on April 05, 2014, 06:49:12
Good answer, the limitations apply for our conciousness as a singularity. The YOU is one tiny part of the whole.
The Nirvana ect is the ' oneness with everything', until this is experienced you really cannot see the limitations. Speculate as you will, the univeral knowledge gained within the experience is so immense our minds cannot begin to comprehend it.
The nearest we can experience is a data download from the source, an imprint. This gives a minute fraction of information in a microsecond of a mental link and at best we have to break it into tiny pieces to make any sense out if it.
Simply put, if you were given the lord of the rings in an imprint, it would be installed instantly. To understand it you'd have to break down each word within and read it sequentially to know the story. In the physical this would take a week to read. In the NP it would take an several mins to 'unfold', in the oneness this info is instantly known.
These are the limitations, just one example of an infinite number of permutations.
In this example time is used as its a strong physical constraint we all can accept.
The picture is larger than life. Not being capable of understanding the whole is a limitation many may never know. To have an imprint is a start, too many will also not know. At least in the NP anyone has a chance to experience this data download. You then understand this physical existance is lacking in free will in its purest form.
I'd guess a handful of people in all the world know its pure form, my experiences are showing me many limitations, free will itself is subject to interpretation.

I want one of those data downloads.  :-D  Those data downloads always sound so cool in the NDE's.

Well it's nice to know I am on the right path in my understanding of free will, and I know your a very experienced astral projector Szaxx so this helps me see that I am not alone in my understanding of free will.

Peace.