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Eol007

Hi Glowsoftly,

Nice handle. Lots out there. Try for starters: -

www.psychic-studies.org.uk (general site but does not have much info, but do run good courses)

www.fst.org (USA site - somewhat Anglican in outlook, but gives a good overall view)

www.noahsarksoc.co.uk (esp. for physical Mediumship)

www.snu.org.uk (good resource – hope you can see through their apparant beaurocracy).

Enjoy.


S



glowsoftly

Hey EOL007 [:)]

Wow thanks for the speedy reply, most appreciated. Nice to see someone knowledgeable out there about whats around. I am familar with some of your links, Ive done some training with snu. Just about to join Noahs Ark. I guess I should have been more specific...what I am looking for is information on the web, about the 'HOW TO'....I can't seem to find much, well hardly any! so I thought I would ask here...doesn't seem to be much I can find...seems the mediums are more secretive than the masons ;)

But Thankyou [:)] Your help is appreciated.
much love to you
glow

Eol007

Hi Glowssoftly,

A pleasure.

quote:
Originally posted by glowsoftly

Hey EOL007 [:)]

Wow thanks for the speedy reply, most appreciated. Nice to see someone knowledgeable out there about whats around. I am familar with some of your links, Ive done some training with snu. Just about to join Noahs Ark. I guess I should have been more specific...what I am looking for is information on the web, about the 'HOW TO'....I can't seem to find much, well hardly any! so I thought I would ask here...doesn't seem to be much I can find...seems the mediums are more secretive than the masons ;)

But Thankyou [:)] Your help is appreciated.
much love to you
glow



Gosh – I'm no expert and although sitting for about 4 ½ years feel that I have only but touched the surface.

Sorry if I have sounded somewhat heavy and can you all bare to put up with this observation on the spiritualist movement rather than mediumship per say! But that is what I feel at this moment.

I feel like any serious personal work on altered states of consciousness, the real value and benefit will be derived from sincere and regular practice.

If you look at the enthusiasm of some of say the younger members of this forum interested in AP for instance – it is blindly obvious how seriously they take their calling and still enjoy life to the max. i.e without dropping of the face of the Earth (pardon the pun).  

Altough there appears to have been an upsurge in popular Mediumship, and new age spirituality in general; this would seem to be part and parcel of the broader spectrum of things!  Yet other forms God centered realization offer today's seeker broad avenues in the path to communion with worlds hitherto unseen, or held in abeyance by those who know better until this apparently portentous time.

One thing I notice when talking to people who have had substantial experience in the spiritualist movement is their continual harkening to the golden days of yesteryear, and continual finger pointing at the lack and poor quality of teaching available. There are dammed good teachers out there; although justifiably some of the better ones shun the limelight. I am sure you may already have had good recommendation and if not will find a great tutor(s). A good example of this is Robert Bruce himself, and although I do not claim to really know much about him and I hope he will forgive my singing praises. Yet here stands someone in the mantle of the likes of Harry Edwards. Although he appears to have moved on from his spiritualist heritage, here stands as an epitome for what spiritualism or true natural spirituality really stood for (if but were the veil were pulled back). I hope you, and If not already done so would read his work!

It beggars the question that perhaps it is nigh time for the so called spiritualist movement to move on and or evolve into the cradle of spiritual support it had potential to become, as indicated in the great words of humble guides such as the Silver Birch or White Eagle. But then would have people at the turn of and 1st part of the 20th century have been able to handle the like of alien channeling of being from other Star systems or in Anglican or Catholic society native forms of spirituality such as Shamanism or the Western resurgence of the Goddess, Wicca, Magic and divination for instance! Examples of say followers of one of these paths would be say Dion Fortune who although derided by establishment culture at the time now shines in a new light.

My feeling is that many traditional spiritualist organisations (certainly the pseudo Christian ones) may well be doing their members a disservice by not being more accepting of other fields of spiritual expression. Perhaps I am being unfair to those great luminaries of yore who had set the stage for us to explore, and the finger might be better pointed at gleaming understanding and aiming towards religious reconciliation in today's divided society in general (moan) .  

Actually the post Adrian placed looks useful enough on Spirit Writings. I agree there does not appear to many recent manuals which adequately explain the methods or mechanics of sitting or attuning for what might be described as mediumistic states of trance. Actually some the methods on this site are only but a hairlines difference from the methods employed for trance and physical Mediumship. But when you consider the gifts offered with enfoldment then this I think comes as no surprise. One of the works of  the Tibetan the channel for the trance medium Alice Bailey 'The Light of the Soul' aims at explaining the Path to Union and includes subjects such as Astral Projection, and all aspects of mediumship as eluded to in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. In that work it explains much of what the aspirant may have to cross including attainment of gifts or powers. Anyway I have diverged enough for this little post.

Backs to books: I have heard that the FST manual is supposed to be very good and someone suggested that the The Institute of Spiritualist Mediums (ISM) are helpful if one wants written guidance on say home circle work. See:

http://www.ism.org.uk/Circles.htm

A very basic tutorial would say be Larry Dreller's Beginners Guide to Mediumship. Personally I don't like his style and the book is very terse. No doubt there is better out there, and hopefully some else will make hsve good suggestions to make. Interestingly here is an other online book link a mate sent to me today:

http://myweb.wvnet.edu/~gsa00121/books/books.htm

There are groups on MSN that have training material on them. I'll send you the links if I can trace them.

Hope my little rant has been of some help?

Kind wishes,


S [:D]

Eol007

Hi,

Here is a selection box of links for you to explore: -

quote:
Originally posted by glowsoftly

Hi all [:)]

Looking for techniques on Mental Mediumship, Trance Mediumship and  Physical Mediumship.

Anybody got any information I would be most greatful.

Thanks.
glow



http://www.junecleeland.com/

Genuine medium based in Sydney, Aus. I have met June and her husband Tim (a great healer and Trance medium). The site is more of a fun thing.

http://members.tripod.com/~rahotep/ - Doug Osborne's site. Ex 60's pop star from Australia, wonderful healer and trance medium. Web design dated, but he is absolutely genuine.

http://groups.msn.com/SchoolofSpiritualKnowledge/

The lady who runs the msn groups above is a wee star. She is a medium based in Leicester, UK. I have met her on a couple of occasions and can say that she is absolutely kosher.

http://www.belinus.co.uk/doorsofpeace/homeextra.htm

A gentler look at spirituality... Section on attunement is worth a read see below: -

http://www.belinus.co.uk/doorsofpeace/ClairAttunement.htm

http://www.spiritual-medium.com/larry.htm

Has useful faq on Mediumship - Don't be put off by the outdated web style.

http://www.cassadaga.org/ - Famed spiritualist camp in the States.

http://www.ifish.org.uk/ - You probably know the IFISH already.

http://www.nfsh.org.uk/ - Ditto. Shame it's a bit terse considering their legacy.

http://www.interfarfacing.com/ - Rare books on Spiritualism

http://www.spiritualuk.com/ - SAGB in London

http://www.spiritualmission.co.uk/ - Not much info on the site, but legendary place to visit.

http://members.tripod.com/~helenduncan/  - Need I say more!

http://www.ukhealers.info/ - A healing link

http://www.leslieflint.com/ - Famed independent direct voice medium.

http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org/seth/ - Jane Roberts famed Channel for Seth.

http://www.ifsk.org/ - good UK teachers offering courses in the States.

http://www.spirithistory.com/ Great historical resource.

http://www.worldtrans.org/lyssa/ or http://www.lyssaroyal.com/

Lyssa Royal Holt is well known author and channel. That is if you can get into Pleiadian and group channeling that is!

http://www.eastyorkshire.fsnet.co.uk/ - Postal lending library in UK.

Hundreds more, but that should keep you busy for a while and a year.

Enjoy,


S[;)]

glowsoftly

Hey S
Got to dash to work now,I will try reply later or tomorrow,
but just wanted to say:

I LOVE YOU IMMENSELY! [:D]

THANKYOU [:)]

Eol007

I look forward to your reply [:I][:I][:I]

glowsoftly

Hi EOL007,
I'm sorry it took me so long to get back here! Life went a little crazy for a while!

You said:
I feel like any serious personal work on altered states of consciousness, the real value and benefit
will be derived from sincere and regular practice.

Yes I agree completely! I've just started to read for people, I think it really helps to
get the pratice. I was considering starting a thread here to ask if anyone would like a
reading,I have not praticed reading via a forum, but might be good pratice if people are interested.

I know what you mean about people in the Spiritulist movement, the first church I went too and
asked about training they told me 'leave it to the oldies' :( like being old is a requirement!
I did a course at the Arthur Findlay college with Glynn Edwards, a fantastic medium, and I love the
way he teaches, highly recommend him as a tutor and medium. Very down to earth and says it like it is,
also himself and his tutors were very open to new ideas and ways of working.

Alice Bailey! yes...I think she did some amazing work, one of the fiercest looking women I've seen tho,lol
God bless her.

I'm exploring your links and having a great learning adventure, thankyou again :)



Much love to you

Eol007

quote:
Originally posted by glowsoftly

Hi EOL007,
I'm sorry it took me so long to get back here! Life went a little crazy for a while!

You said:
I feel like any serious personal work on altered states of consciousness, the real value and benefit
will be derived from sincere and regular practice.

Yes I agree completely! I've just started to read for people, I think it really helps to
get the pratice. I was considering starting a thread here to ask if anyone would like a
reading,I have not praticed reading via a forum, but might be good pratice if people are interested.

I know what you mean about people in the Spiritulist movement, the first church I went too and
asked about training they told me 'leave it to the oldies' :( like being old is a requirement!
I did a course at the Arthur Findlay college with Glynn Edwards, a fantastic medium, and I love the
way he teaches, highly recommend him as a tutor and medium. Very down to earth and says it like it is,
also himself and his tutors were very open to new ideas and ways of working.

Alice Bailey! yes...I think she did some amazing work, one of the fiercest looking women I've seen tho,lol
God bless her.

I'm exploring your links and having a great learning adventure, thankyou again :)



Much love to you


Hi,

No problem. I see you have been enjoying your research!
I have only seen Glyn Edwards once at Stansted but did not have opportunity to see him work although I did see Paul Jacobs on the platform once and he can sing a good tune. An ex girlfriend had been on a couple of Glyn's courses and respects his work. Have you read Santoshan's and his book '21 Steps to Reach Your Spirit' for instance?

Good luck with your reading/sitting practice. Do you mind me asking how you work? For instance do you find clairvoyance or clairsentience or a combination of means when establishing links with spirit etc?

I find I initially get clairsentience then a mixture including clairvoyance and straight thought coming through and the odd occasion of clairaudience and sense of smell, but do get individuals giving evidence about their personal tastes in food and drink on occasion, although I never have had a sense of taste been given yet.

Have you practiced with double or multiple links for instance and tried to switch between them for instance?

Kind wishes,



Stephen

glowsoftly

Hi :)

Yep sure is lots to learn!

Currently,I usually start with clairvoyance, and build up a visual image of what the person looks like. Most people are recognizable,altho I have had two ladies who have gone to great lengths to make me point out their hair! only to be told at the end of the session that the person could take everthing except the hair colour or style! Spiritual hairdressers? Still haven't worked out that one yet...lol  Bringing in evidence of the communicator I then switch and work clairaudient, which is perceived objectively (hear internally). When I use clairvoyance it is subjective to me, I see them physically there. I have worked with a few people for a while now and switch between them, just like a normal conversation. My clairaudience is not as strong as I would like it to be tho, sometimes spirit show me things symbolically sometimes literally, so I am still working out the differences. But I am loving it!


Eol007

quote:
Originally posted by glowsoftly

Hi :)

Yep sure is lots to learn!

Currently,I usually start with clairvoyance, and build up a visual image of what the person looks like. Most people are recognizable,altho I have had two ladies who have gone to great lengths to make me point out their hair! only to be told at the end of the session that the person could take everthing except the hair colour or style! Spiritual hairdressers? Still haven't worked out that one yet...lol  Bringing in evidence of the communicator I then switch and work clairaudient, which is perceived objectively (hear internally). When I use clairvoyance it is subjective to me, I see them physically there. I have worked with a few people for a while now and switch between them, just like a normal conversation. My clairaudience is not as strong as I would like it to be tho, sometimes spirit show me things symbolically sometimes literally, so I am still working out the differences. But I am loving it!
Hi ya,

Looks like y've been busy?

As you are probably aware spirit are highly economical in their communication. Why relate 100 images when one if quite sufficient. Hair do's are a good example and a shame that the sitter couldn't get a fix. Often something like this is given as evidence not necessarily relating to the spirit, but of the sitter or someone close to the sitter! Although if given as an initial image it really should be of the spirit in question. However in training the medium – spirit will tend to tease and probably for good reason!

In other words you would normally dictate the order of events i.e. be in control and not the spirit (not to be confused with 'A Control'). You know the old sequence: establish the communicator, their relationship to the sitter, their generation, sex, physical description, age, how they passed on etc.

In an ideal sitting all these should be run through before further evidence is foisted on the sitter (i.e. seek yeah/nays/maybe's etc), and certainly as a prerequisite to any sort of message. The way I have been taught is to continuously send up questions sometimes in quick fire succession and sense by whatever means confirmation before moving on to further evidence and message/closing etc. That could be easily be applied to clairvoyant imagery: as you can ask questions relating to the image given and get meaningful answers etc. Why is the wig pink, what significance does that have and later it can often be part of te message - i.e. you could seek confirmaion if it relates to a feeling given or say celebration etc. Then probe deeper: when is the celebration, who is, was, is going to there! Who is wearing pink! The bride, the groom and so on. Yuo could go firther and seek answers to location of places, go into the buildings and describe layout, furnature, decor and so on. The scope is limitless!

As the initial image probably took then more energy to produce at the onset - this is probably worth exploring next time round (just a wee suggestion)! You can also revistit (even if not visualised) and ask question later in the reading (if it is still relivant and so on). Energetically as the reading proceeds the spirit should be able to move of attune with your energy as you with them and greater depth, accuracy, and speed of information can be exchanged. Note that they are also relying on your memory or better the auric emanation of your life experience. This can be a great benefit to you as it can provide them with understandable info which you can relate to and therefore pass on to the sitter. (note: this is on a subconsious level and probably on surface mind or awareness level). There are a few individuals in the UK who find spirit can use their knowledge of pub names as an example. So a male communicatior might say give Rose and Crown which is good as it could be represented symbolically or mentally. Digging deeper one might find the communicator's preferred tipple, and have an opportunity to gain understanding of their depth of charactor, social behavior and interpersonal relationships etc.

No so sure about your spin on clairaudience! Forgive me in saying this, but are you mixing up pure thought exchange with internal hearing. There is quite a considerable difference, in my opinion anyway. What I find as a sitting progresses is that it is as if they are working on a telepathic exchange and your brain is converting this into linguistic ideas, which in turn feel as if they are ones own thoughts. Respect that are you are already an experienced sitter, and know that the problem here is in differentiating between this and the rise of thoughts from the surface of your own mind. This is probably why mediums and mystics of yore sat for years in silence before dabbling in communication. But in today's topsy turvey world there seems to be need to be fulfilled and we appear to have to train up very quickly by comparison.

I could wax lyrical forever... but don't wnat to put you to sleeeep...

Keep having fun and well done. Hope I do not come across as pompous here, as I only consider myself also as a student?

Cheers,


Stephen [:)]

glowsoftly

Hey :)
You come as an experienced person who is really understanding what they are seeing! And in this world that is a rare treat! I can tell your the type of person to really question things from your post. I really appreciate your time and effort replying to my posts.

I hadn't thought of that slant on the hairdresser thing, it totally confused me at the time. Next time it comes up, I will know in what directions to look. They do a similar thing with names, they will give me a name and then emphasize the first letter. The actual name is incorrect but the first letter relates..so they use any name just to signify it is a name! Hopefully one day they will just give me names lol

Sometimes it gets darn confusing working out how they are working.


Yes I hear internally thats what I mean, sometimes its telepathic I get the excact words they want me to say and other times they give me the whole concept at once and I have to interepret. It is hard to myself out of the occassion,its like I have to tell my mind not to think, just shut up and stay out of it. Done quite a bit of meditation on the mind so its pretty clear, or I should say I am aware of it/conscious of my thoughts. So I am now popping the bad ones and replacing them  with good ones before they float off. Now I am alot calmer more peaceful and this really helps I've found.

If you have any more tips, keep it coming, your hot! If you have time it would be great to meet up on MSN for a chat, let me know if you have time and I will pm you my details. I do have a few more questions.

Thanks anyway for your help :)
Really grateful
glowsoftly [:)]

Eol007

Hey :)
quote:
You come as an experienced person who is really understanding what they are seeing! And in this world that is a rare treat! I can tell your the type of person to really question things from your post. I really appreciate your time and effort replying to my posts.
I am only a student... I just feel it is vital to try to get any communication as clear as possible and it really does take hard work to keep aimed at that objective.
quote:
They do a similar thing with names, they will give me a name and then emphasize the first letter. The actual name is incorrect but the first letter relates..so they use any name just to signify it is a name! Hopefully one day they will just give me names lol
You doing just fine – keep working on trust and clarity of info will always improve. Well that's what I say to myself!
quote:
Sometimes it gets darn confusing working out how they are working.
I tend to overanalyse, but sometimes realise that in some ways you don't need to know as it were!
quote:
Done quite a bit of meditation on the mind so its pretty clear, or I should say I am aware of it/conscious of my thoughts. So I am now popping the bad ones and replacing them with good ones before they float off. Now I am alot calmer more peaceful and this really helps I've found.

You can't beat a good meditation for balance and as a workout for oneself!
quote:
If you have any more tips, keep it coming, your hot! If you have time it would be great to meet up on MSN for a chat, let me know if you have time and I will pm you my details. I do have a few more questions.
No problem... my MSN is on my user profile anyway!

Cheers,



Stephen [:)]

glowsoftly

Hi all [:)]

Looking for techniques on Mental Mediumship, Trance Mediumship and  Physical Mediumship.

Anybody got any information I would be most greatful.

Thanks.
glow