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Tayesin

Hi All,

I think James S deserves a huge pat on the back and plenty of support for his absolute and direct HONESTY.

Thank You James.

Love Always.[:)]

Squeek

Boy do I love biased opinions.  I really do.  It's the easiest way to figure out who beleives, and who is limited to beleif.  It's fun to watch too [:)]

I'm sorry to say that I am biased as well...  I know it isn't cool and all, but I'm still on my team here [:P].  My theory is, and has been since I started here:

"Believe everything, until you find evidence against it."

I really haven't found any evidence against my use of the pendulum as of yet, and I must have had a good 25-30 sessions so far.  Do you think I am a changed person?  Up to you.  I do.  Do you think I am worse for doing it?  Up to you. I don't.

I think it is the most wonderful thing in the world to have a friend you can talk to about all of your problems or issues in life and to have them listen.  Wouldn't you?

~Squeek

PS - I await your criticism, for it will be the first time on this website I have been criticized [:)]

wantsumrice

Squeek, really you shouldnt be the receiver of any critism, infact no one of the board should be subjected to that. Chill, you mentioning that all the people that work with the pleidian are all young unexperienced and morons is very offensive. I personally dont take offense to that because I know that you dont know better. Anyone who directly offends anyone doesn't know any better...I understand that you have your opinions, but please, try and refrain from accusing people that they are morons. (i understand that you didnt want to 'offend' anyone...but you still said it...)  Do you personally think you are that smart?

Chill, i find most of your comments very useless! please, if you have nothing to say, then dont say it, same goes with mocking...

I know it must sound like im taking this too seriously, but infact it isnt a serious matter, but that doesnt mean that people and 'beliefs' should be shot down.

"Boy do I love biased opinions. I really do. It's the easiest way to figure out who beleives, and who is limited to beleif. It's fun to watch too"

lol squeek, you are the man!

I know i ask many (rhetorical) questions...but they are only to help you REALIZE that sometimes going with what is given is enough...digging too deep will not ALWAYS help.

respect and sincerity,
~ivan


James S

Squeek - an "innocent until proven guilty" approach. Something tells me this is working very well for you, far better than sitting back and being distrustful.

Wantsumrice - stop be so defensive. Lets see if we can cut the tit-for-tat stuff please.

Chill - stop being so antagonistic. Don't you make me come over there and smack you![;)]
As to your questions though...
Ok, I've got this can here, full of nice fresh worms. Guess I better open it up.....

Firstly Allanon hasn't been banned, he reincarnated himself as Narrow Path, who's very dilligently working on getting himself banned. Anyway, what's with all this stuff about getting yourself banned? Believe me, you have to really tinkle Adrian off to get yourself banned, and he's actually a very tolerant person that generally tends to agonise a lot over whether or not somebody deserves to be shown the door. So, please, RELAX![8D]

To the guide stuff....
Just over a year ago I came face to face with the Green Lady, who saw fit to pay me a visit. She has been helping and guiding me, but is more like a guardian than a guide. I do still have that same love for her, still feel her presence, and can "speak" with her. As I've let my astral phasing skills slide, I've not seen her in a while.

About 6 weeks ago, Mayatnik got in touch with me, and wanted to speak to me about guides. He apparently needed to put me in touch with Wecha, a young pleiadian lass (well,young by their standards). Mayatnik was well aware of the Green Lady, and my (as he described it) shamanistic connection with her. Where the Lady is more of a guardian / general guide (don't ask me what the distinctions are here), Wecha is a specialist "teacher".

So anyway, I go through the routine of learning to communicate with Wecha, and it ends up in pretty much the same way I'd experienced talking with the Green Lady - the "voices in my head" thing with accompanying emotions. Now I don't really know Mayatnik, I'd spoken to him a couple of times and he seems a down to earth, helpful and genuine enough person, but how was I to know to trust this Pleiadian he's introduced me to apart from his assurances? I don't know her from a 5 dimensional bar of soap!

What I did get though is reassurances from the Green Lady that Wecha is on the level and has actually been "assigned" to me at her request. It seems the two go back a long way. Anyway, what I do know without going onto a lot of rambling about it, I've been quite confused about this being called Wecha, and most of my problem is I have no basis for comparison against anything here that I can say that for me is tried and tested. I don't know who the Pleiadians really are. There's plenty of info on the internet, but when I've looked at a lot of it, I feel Wecha scoffing in the background that there is an awful lot of badly misinterpreted rubbish out there.

I really don't know much at all about my guide, other than she has said herself that she is "of the Pleiadian Empire", that I have another spirit being whom I really do trust saying she's trustworthy, and my own empathic feedback that tells me she very loving and really quite genuine about her desires to help me progress.

I don't know what the ultimate goal here is. I've never known. That's why I need a guide, because buggered if I can find the way on my own. What I do know is that The Green Lady has some kind of future planned for me, so I'll go along with that. I certainly don't think I'm signing up for any genetics experiments. Another thing I've come to know is that Wecha is not interested at all in what the Zetas are doing. More than once I've had the impression that she's not of your typical Pleiadian mindset, that she has her own opinions about things, and they don't necessarily coincide with what many others of her race think. That suits me just fine. One of my pet peeves has always been the "follow like sheep" mentality.

You say if you're curious you will comply? They're Pleiadians, not The Borg.[;)]

Wantsumrice is right in thinking that digging too deep doesn't always help, especially when I've no clue how deep this actually goes. It's also very easy to overanalyse things. Often the best decisions are made from the heart, without asking the brain for its opinion.

Anyway, part way through writing this I had a rather stern visit from the Green Lady, who wanted to remind me that SHE trusts Wecha.
I think I'm going to be going along for the ride after all.

Regards,
James.

Tayesin

Hiya James,

From your last post I got the impression you have a differnet road to travel that the Zeta followers,  most interesting and peculiar.  Not sure about the Green Lady having a plan for you, but also understand your interest in seeing where the road leads.

While sending my last PM to you I had a woman/presence who was quite irate at me for my 'intereference'with you.  Oops, I ticked someone off !   Seems they are very intent on you just going with the flow,  and don't mind telling me to keep my nose out of it, LOL. [B)]

Well mate, hope the road is fun and don't forget to send a postcard once in a while.[:D]

Love Always.[:)]

James S

Hi Tayesin,

The Green Lady says she has a plan, or tasks for me, but it's quite definitely up to me as to whether I'm interested. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she was the one giving you a bit of stick. She certainly sounded peeved with me this arvo when I was debating the whole Wecha thing. She not too gently reminded me that she's already vouched for Wecha's integrity a couple of times in the past.

When you're talking about the Spirit of the Earth, the term "she who must be obeyed" takes on a whole new meaning.[:)]

And yes, I'll send poscards. I wonder if the Pleiadians have one hour photo labs?[;)]

Take care,
James.

Squeek

Hey James...

Bring me back a souvenir, ok!  [:D]

~Squeek

James S

Ok Squeek. [^]

I think I might be able to get a good deal on little jiggling Pleaidian hula dolls in grass skirts, or some UFOs in Snow domes. If I'm really lucky I might be able to get some T-shirts with "I went to the Alcyone star system and all I got was this lousy T-shirt".

[:D]
James.

goingslow

Yes Mistress.. spank spank.

A masochistic male's dream come true.  Controlling Guides ...where do I sign up?

James S

Ahh..you'd be wanting aliens from Phobos. They have Leather Goddesses there!

....or so the old computer game goes [:)]
But then who's to say the writer of that old game wasn't inspired?

[8D]
James.

P.S.
Welcome back James.

Van-Stolin

Well my beleive is to question everything.  I am not going to be sat down and told that these 'zetas' know all and expect us to beleive it.  

I am going to look beyond it all and try to find if the person is credible, if so then look at the information given and see if it matches with other things, make sure that everything is right.  If so then there is nothing to dissprove and they are real.  

But the problem that I see is that the so called 'channells' are either socially deprived and feel the need to be special or they are just crazy.  The true ones though don't always get real messages either.  They could be channalling anything and not know it, so it is always good to cross reference information and not blantaly accept it.
Thou shall not kill, remember?  What kind of church man are you? - Vash, Trigun

I will destroy Naraku with this Tessiaga! - Inuyasha, Inu-yasha

Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind. - Edward D. Morrison

Van-Stolin

Well James at least you have someone that knows she is for real.  I am all alone on this sort of thing, becuase a spirt that I have been talking to for a while doesn't know what the heck is going on and the worst part is I think he is my guide.[B)]
Thou shall not kill, remember?  What kind of church man are you? - Vash, Trigun

I will destroy Naraku with this Tessiaga! - Inuyasha, Inu-yasha

Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind. - Edward D. Morrison

James S

Yeah I know what you mean. I got a lucky break, but still, the approach I took was to persist in questioning and trying to take that middle ground of not being too accepting and not being too sceptical. Use your intuition A LOT, and rememeber that if your guide is genuine, they will be patient and willing to be questioned.

It might seem that your spirit guide doesn't know what's going on, but maybe your asking the wrong questions, or comparing his answers to "facts" that might not be right. So many grey areas! (no pun intended)

Good luck!
James.

Van-Stolin

Thanks for the advise.  I will try to ask some different questions.  But he might just be a spirit and not my guide.  He almost seems lost and confused.  He knows he is dead, though.
Thou shall not kill, remember?  What kind of church man are you? - Vash, Trigun

I will destroy Naraku with this Tessiaga! - Inuyasha, Inu-yasha

Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind. - Edward D. Morrison

manuel

sites like zeta talk is full of b.s really, i realy think her "alien" sources if you will is nothing but negs in disguise.

wantsumrice

these are the things that are truly very hard to argue against and even harder to prove.  Theres no point in arguing or even trying to prove these things.  Its like the matrix, We can't tell you about it, you have to see it for youself.  

it still is important to doubt and question, but to know is something that one feels for himself. Its impossilbe to describe and more importantly too personal to be debated.  

~ivan

Tisha

Van-Stolin, there are a whole lotta Beings Out There!  Confused, knowing, wise, stupid, good-bad-indifferent.  

When I am faced with a Being on the astral, I ask, "What do you want?"   It's a much better question than "Who are you?" because when I ask THAT question I get "Who do you WANT me to be?" which tells me these Beings can morph into whatever makes me feel comfortable.  WHICH, to ME, means so-called "reality" is in constant flux, nothing I can pin down with my thumb.

Which is very interesting!  It makes me wonder if the pliedan/spirit guide/higher self/angel question is irrelevant.  Does it matter WHAT it is?  Perhaps all that really matters is the message.

My advice?  Be neutrally curious, don't get emotionally involved, and listen with an open mind.  If a Being tells you to kill your cat, bid it adieu!  Keep your wits about you.
Tisha

Mustardseed

I just had to ask.Do you all believe in that conversation being from space? I had to ask since it seems very wierd to me. Can someone sum it up for me, thanks
Words.....there was a time when I believed in words!