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RJA
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« on: August 28, 2003, 22:11:24 »

I'm a beginner, but I get the impression that it's partly a matter of learning "how to OBE" but also that by reading/meditating/doing OBE techniques, etc. we are slowly programming our subconscious and that sooner or later it just starts happening - not because we've gotten better at it, but somehow because our spirit or subsconscious or whatever finally "got the message".

What makes me think this is that I had my first 3 OBEs in the last 4 or 5 weeks and it surprised me because other than thinking a lot about it I didn't do much in the way of a "technique".  I'm typically too tired and fall asleep really fast (2 or 3 minutes) so basically all i've done is a few minutes of a visualization while thinking "Now I'm out-of-body" while going to sleep.  On the first two OBEs I woke up later and popped out of my body without even trying (didn't even feel the vibrations).  On the third one I woke up and felt a slight vibration and was able to relax and get it to spread and then was able to sit up and out.  

So I don't think I *did* anything in particular but rather that just by thinking/reading a lot about OBEs it somehow over time programmed my subconscious to do it.

Why it takes some people longer and others shorter is beyond me (I tried a year ago and got to the vibrational state a few times, but quit trying after a few weeks.  Then when I picked it up again this time the first OBE happened in about 2 weeks).

I get the impression that where the practice comes in is in what you can do after you're out of your body.[Smiley]
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2003, 13:23:29 »

Your posts sound like you're getting a little bit frustrated, and I can only agree with you whole-heartedly if you are. When I have sat down and tried to OBE, I haven't even come close -- YET! And I agree with RJA that the "practice" can only come when you are able to do the deed. But the thing that's going to keep me trying is the one time I had an OBE without trying or intending to do it. I've described that on another post, but it was AWESOME. More than that, it proved to me beyond any doubt that OBE is real and we can do it!

Now, on to opinion. I am aiming at perfecting my meditation techniques right now and I'm not really trying for OBE's. My theory is that we must be able to communicate with our sub-conscious before we can reliably remember what occurs while our body is sleeping. I am finding it hard to keep my mind still for more than a few seconds at a time, but I'm going to keep plugging and see what happens. I would also welcome any and all suggestions for improving technique!

PS: One thing I have been told is that trying too hard can actually hurt your chances. If you are concentrating only on the OBE, maybe just try relaxing into a meditation, without any expectations, and see what happens then.  Good luck to both of us! [Cheesy]
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2003, 19:28:37 »

OK I only want to hear from people like me that have tried and tried and tried again to OBE, no natural ability folk here please. Was there a point where everything just seemed to click after all of your tried attempts? Something that just happened in your mind that said, "Oh that's how you OBE!" and then of course you did?

Im at that stage where I would like that to happen and wanted to see some of your experiences that came with your very first OBE. How long were you working at achieving this state before it actually happened?

I know everyone is different, just thought this might help me out and a few other newbies.

thanks!
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