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n/a

Wow! That has been my game plan for the last month.  When I have my next OBE, I was planning to visit the moon and look for the lunar rover and sit in it!  I dreamt it last week, I had to go around the earth to find the moon first and then stretch to it.  But I would like to know too, has anyone projected to it and what did they do or see?





Qui-Gon Jinn

If any of you go there, look for a "base" with spherical- and mushroom shaped buildings amongst others, and if you see it, don´t get to surprised.....   there have been a few projectors who have witnessed that, and at least one more reliable source, so keep your eyes open..    be well// Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

Hephaestus

I would have to say it would not surprise me in the least that there is a base on the moon whether it be human built or built by extraterrestrials. If I ever have another OOBE and manage to get to the moon if I dont get a little sh*t scared I may take a look inside the bases. But being realistic I prob wouldn't dare take a look inside.


Hephaestus

Other places I would be interested in visiting to finally find the answers to so much controversy:

The so called secret tomb under the Sphinx.
The inside of the Pyramids at Giza.
The Ocean beneath the Bermuda Triangle (there is talk of some kind of large chrystal under the sea).
Area 51 ;)



Qui-Gon Jinn

Hep, ever since I started realizing astral travelling is possible, I decided my first far-away "expidition" was to be to the Giza plateau, always been fascinated by the pyramids and the sphinx...   they say they were built by a civilization with pretty much no technology to speak about, and yet, we couldn´t even duplicate them today, at least not the great pyramid, with our so called "advanced" technologies we possess today..   I would say we have some pretty "advanced" components, but after all, we make pretty much the planet run by burning fossile fuels.......  how high tech is that..    anyway, if you want a travel companion with you, give me a holler mate ;)
 I´d be interrested in a trip to the moon as well, I could do the investigation if you´re to scared.. lol  ...and you could be my astral body guard, taking astral bullets and those sorts of things if necessary, deal??

 Be well// Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

Hephaestus

If you're serious I will join you on the expedition but you will however have to wait a while LOL, I have yet to manage a second OOBE but I feel i'm not too far off since I had a lucid dream the other day of having an OOBE. As soon as I can have them more easily i'll contact you here .
If you decide to go without me dont hesitate to tell me all about it .


n/a

Hey Qui-Gon Jinn,

Do you know if this base is on the dark or light side of the moon?
I plan to run a grid about 1000 feet above the surface to look for this. It would save some time...

We had almost a full moon last night, but the wife was kicking and moving around too much and kept breaking my concentration, RATTS!!

So tonight I'll sit in the chair, and be an Astralnaut, and stretch to the Moon.
                        Nightflier...


Hephaestus

Not that I know but id say it would prob be on the dark side since if its on the light side anyone with a good enough telescope might see it.


Qui-Gon Jinn

Hep, sure I´m serious, why not??  Two minds are stronger than one right...  but you´ll have to wait for me most probably, since I haven´t had any remembered OBE yet. Well, I had one very unusual experience that could have been an OBE mixed up with a lucid dream or an ordinary dream, or all three mixed up...   I NEVER have any dreams where I´m in my house..  I did that time and it was a bit different from the normal dream feeling, anyway, I can´t say for sure it was an OBE since the memory of it is so vague..  
 But let me know when you have your next one and I´ll let you know when I have my first fully memorized one.

NIGHTFLIER, and HEP as well of course, you can listen to one of the "moon-base"- witnesses (not one of the OBE´ers though, an Air Force witness) I was reffering to in your realplayer, I guess you have one?
 Just copy and insert the following adress in your Realplayer and the first witness speaking is the man who witnessed a base on the "backside" of the moon...   http://www.disclosureproject.org/realaudio/NPCC-Part2.ra

  Take care//Qui-GOn

- Your focus determines your reality -

Qui-Gon Jinn

Hmmm... Robert would be the main man for checking the moon out I´d reckon..

Robert Bruce, if you are reading this, have you scouted the moon and if, have you found anything abnormal??  If you have not travelled the moon, could you imagine doing it?´  If you found/find anything on the moon, would you find it to "controversial" to speak openly about?!  
I would be very eager to find out if this "base" could be verified by an experienced reliable projector...    Be well// Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

Mobius

I,m not sure if this is the guys name,but I think it was
Timothy Good? who wrote various ufo books,had one in which
previously unreleased transcripts of the Apollo missions were
released & interviews with all astronauts involved.
A number of times astronauts including Neil Armstrong,reported that
"there are ships out here!lots of them" on the other side of the moon.
That was the early 70,s, who knows whats happened in 30 years.
I have never OBE,ed the moon itself,but in 1998 I recorded an OBE
I had on the other side of the moon about 1000 km off the surface,
where I saw a set of giant rings linked together,with small craft
flying in & out.
This got me curious & I moved in to take a closer look,when I got inside one of the rings I encountered a small humanoid being with
sandy coloured skin.It looked surprised to see me & the next thing
I know I,m being dropped onto my bed & landed on my girlfriends
feet! on the end of the bed sideways!
It gets worse! my head felt sore & I felt my skull only to find a
large chunk of my skull missing at the back!Of course I was alarmed
& went with family & friends to see doctors & get C-T & MRI scans on
my head & brain.No problem was found & I turned to the doctors &
said how did it get there? They said they dont know & it must have
been an accident I had a long time ago as it was solid & healed.
We all said "It wasnt there yesterday" & they just said
"It must have been".
This was my most disturbing OBE so far & I,ve been apprehensive
about going any further than outside the atmosphere ever since.

I would like to see whats inside the Sphinx also Hephaestus &
underneath the desert for undiscovered sites & hopefully the hall of
records.
I,d like to have a closer look at the undersea sites of Bimini,South
America & Surat India where material there was carbon dated at
9000 years old.
I,d love to look into top secret military sites like Pine Gap &
the Montauk base in the states,where experiments on the
philadelphia experiment were rumoured to continue.
For anyone who wants to read up on the Montauk & Philadelphia
experiments check this site out.
http://home.pb.net/~lilithli/what_the_heck_is_the_montauk_pro.htm

If we could all move back & forward in time using OBE or R.V
relatively easy,I,m sure most of us would spend little time in
our physical bodies as you would want to see every significant
event in our history.

All the best on your journeys

Mobius


Hephaestus

^^ HOLY CR*P, IF THATS WHAT HAPPENED I'M NOW NOT EVEN GOING TO GO WITHIN 240,000 MILES OF MOON! I'm staying on Earth!


n/a

It doesn't sound so bad, no harm done...
I'll just keep my distance, as an observer. And won't interfere with whatever I might see.

Also, what about the Hollow Earth Theory? They say the entrances are at the poles, but somewhat hidden...

Heck!  If I only knew how to find the astral planes, I wouldn't be stuck loitering around the planet!  I don't have a map or any guess on how to find even the outskirts of the planes.  At least there, I could get somewhat of an education on things I need to know. Instead of being stuck outside digging through the garbage cans and alley ways of mother earth!

       Sorry to change the subject, sort of went off track...

                       Nightflier..


Tir13

If you guys really want to see some shocking things go mosey on up to the Arctic, I can guarantee you'll find some...old things.  Haha.  Just don't get sucked in okay...it would be tragic if you got psychically ripped..apart.  Go at your own risk.  

Later,
Jason


Mobius

To anyone who has read about my encounter out from the moon,
dont be put off from anything I have said as I,m sure there is
a rational & logical explanation for what happened to me.
From all my readings it seems like its a very rare thing & you
probably have more chances of winning the lottery than this
happening to you & it still hasnt stopped me from having OBE,s...............just.......not ......there!
I hope I get a plausible explanation soon as doctors dont know &
it aches a fair bit.
The only explanation I can think of & its pretty far out,is when I
was out there & saw the sandy little guy & he saw me,that somehow
he blocked what I could see in there,psychically hit me & knocked me flying back to my physical body which it located & possibly
abducted me & removed a piece of skull for some reason?
The thing that doesnt add up in that scenario is why do I remember
going there?And if they did, there was no implants found so I,m sure
nothing good came out of it for me.
I would prefer to hear a nice easy medical explanation for what
happened & am still looking,so what do you all think?
Can anyone think of a more rational explanation,nothing has changed,
I still have the chunk missing (dont think she,s coming back) & the scans if anyone here in Australia can help or retest or give advice.

All the best on your journeys

Mobius


Hephaestus

I think as soon as the humanoid discovered you he/she/it went about ordering your abduction, they abducted you and possibly tried to wipe your memory and failed (unlikely) or placed a technologically highly advanced implant which cannot be detected by scans somwhere deep in your brain - they're possibly even seeing through yours eyes and seeing you post on this board . You may say I have a wild imagination which is prob true but it wont change my mind about not going to the moon. lol.


Froggman

That's quite interesting.  Though this contradicts the concept that "nothing can hurt you while projected".  Perhaps certain kinds of beings are able to interact with projectors through the mind.  I'm not sure about the physical abduction part.  Perhaps there is a link of some kind between the mind and what it does to your physical body.  
 I wouldn't allow to scare me though.  Personally, (and i'm the curious, adventurous type) I would want to go back just to see...
*shrugs*

Frogg


Tir13

Umm...

 For the majority of people who project, they have generally positive experiences, float around...not really messing with anything.  For the other, minority of individuals, who regularly engage in astral combat/conflict/etc (I try to avoid that as much as possible...but.. when you're against a bloody wall), there can be some very *dangerous* physical reactions, but the greatest hazard affects the mental health...I've seen/heard of some very sad cases of people not being to handle the energy/information/experience/what have you and flipping out losing all touch with reality...BUT, not to deter people from OOBEing, just understand that is also a very *real* aspect of it.  Just look at RB and the demonic possession thread...

Later,
Jason


Mobius

Thanks everyone & keep the ideas coming,Hephaestus I dont rule out
any possibilities,its a funny old world we live in & who knows what
things can happen.
Froggman I know this experience contradicts the statement
"nothing can happen to your non physical/etheric body" & I still
believe that to be true, its just that some entities seem to be
able to get a lock on your non-physical body & follow it back to
your non physical body,if extraterrestial beings,angels & demons
have the ability to see your silver cord I would imagine it
wouldn,t be too much of a problem.
What are possessions by Prophets/Angels/Gods/Demons about?
It seems that when someone is searching for information,they
somehow come in contact with the being whether voluntary or not &
a physical bond is formed.
You never know I might go back there one day & I definately dont
think anyone should be detered.

Good luck on your journeys

Mobius



Hephaestus

quote:
Originally posted by Tir13:
If you guys really want to see some shocking things go mosey on up to the Arctic, I can guarantee you'll find some...old things.  Haha.  Just don't get sucked in okay...it would be tragic if you got psychically ripped..apart.  Go at your own risk.  

Later,
Jason





What do you get sucked in? what do you mean psychically ripped..apart?


Qui-Gon Jinn

What´s going down in the Arctic Jason?  I believe everyone in here can handle what you might have perceived up there, you certainly got people curious so please share, if you want to that is..
 
 ...as for being physically ripped apart, I myself feel that is an impossible scenario when travelling outside your physical body, because of the mind-split I now am pretty darn sure is in fact the real McCoy.

There might be some people here on the forum that are interrested in OBE´s but are a bit unsure of wether or not they "dare" cause of fears they may have, reading that they may be ripped apart won´t exactly encourage them to learn more and see that their fears is totally "unjustified" and firmly based on lack of knowledge.

 Of course everyone do what they do on their own "risk", but I´m firmly convinced that astral travelling is no more dangerous than walking across the street or go for run in the woods...  as long as one doesn´t seek out trouble intentionally or have any big mental problems of course, who could potentially get worse if experiencing the profoundly different realms just awaiting to be explored...  
 
 ...perhaps you Jason could eloborate on the whole ripping apart statement??

 Hep - still up for the moon trip ey´?  We can shift roles so that I´ll be your bodyguard if you want ;) Keep up the training, I will succeed next week I feel so hurry mate.....

 - Honour over Hate, Peace over Anger, Strength over Fear -

Be well //Qui-Gon

- Your focus determines your reality -

Edited by - Qui-Gon Jinn on 29 March 2002  18:36:34

Hephaestus

Hey Qui-Gon Jinn, this website helped me achieve my first OOBE, i've not bought the book but the stuff on the website is more than helpful. Take a look maybe it will help you out too:

http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html


zugzug

I haven't read ALL of these posts, but I noticed someone mentioned a "base" on the moon.

It occurs to me that if there are other projectors out there, and there obviously are, and if there's other life out (surely THEY'VE learned to project too) then someone could have constructed an ASTRAL base on the moon... using the same methods that shamans and so forth use to make astral temples and so forth.  And that makes me wonder what other astral objects and buildings could be out there.


Mobius

Hi all,I cant verify any of this & I would also like to hear what jason has to say about the arctic,but here is some of the stories
I,ve heard about the Arctic & Antarctica,the north & south poles.
1)The Arctic & Antarctica are the 2 major centres of the most
powerful magnetic fields on our planet,which I,m sure can be
utilised somehow.
2)The Piri Reis map of 1500 & something depicted Antarctica with
very little ice & showed rivers & land marks & it was not supposed
to be have been mapped or thought to have anyone gone there until the
late 1800,s.
3)Rumours that Antarctica was one of the hundreds of sites suggested
to be Atlantis.
4)During WW2 the Nazi,s were discovered setting up a base in
Antarctica & were testing new weapons & technology & a mad scramble
by the Allies followed to ensure the Nazi,s didnt get a foot hold
done there & they did.
5)It has also been rumoured that a form of Stargate could be there,
maybe not a physical one,but one based on unseen energy,s.
6)In the year 2000 two woman set out to reach the south pole,a few
days into the journey they used a sattalite phone to report
"something unusual out here",they were missing for a long time & I,m
still not sure if they have been found.

So I would love to hear what Jason has heard,cmon tell us.

Good journeys to you all

Mobius


Adrian

Greetings Mobious and all!

quote:

2)The Piri Reis map of 1500 & something depicted Antarctica with
very little ice & showed rivers & land marks & it was not supposed
to be have been mapped or thought to have anyone gone there until the
late 1800,s.



We do know that 100M years or so ago that Antartica was full of life which inhabited large forests, rivers and the like. That is why these days there is reckoned to be huge fossil fuel reserves there. Thank goodness it is protected  

Back then, Australia was connected to Antartica, and dinosaurs would migrate in the summer from Aus down to the Antartic forests. At one time the Indian sub-continent was connected to Antartica as well - that drifted north well :-)

More info here for those that are interested in prehistoric matters:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dinosaurs/chronology/106/index.shtml

Best regards,

Adrian.


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