Gateway Wave1 pointers

[Gandalf]

Cheers Focus15,
This looks like a good site. The author seems to be another graduate of the Monroe school!

I like reading the accounts of Monroe's succesors, like Bruce Moen for example and their own unique slants on phasing and the like.

Regards,
Douglas

[Aries]

I hope people still pay attention to this topic. I am new to AP and such and I have gotten alot of guidence from the forums here. My thanks to all you who posted in this 11 page behemoth.
I have been trying some diff techniques and making my own for about 2 weeks now and last night I started by laying in bed and listening to the fan in my room while also trying some body asleep mind awake techniques but then i started to try and focus more on the darkness and I started to feel the vibrations I have read so much about here. Also it felt like I was leaving my body, but not really going up, but more inside or down into it... if that makes sense.
Anyways I got excited and came back to "c1"
I was wondering if someone can give me some advice on being able to stay at the point I was at..
thnx
-Aries

[delure]

Originally I have posted this article at mysticweb forum . People there are not very keen on BW .      
    During my search of astral travel I have tried a lot including Monroe's institute Getaway series (whole set and lot of money).
   Whole series consists of Hemisync wave signal and spoken guidance, as you probably already know. Example you have from 5 to 10 minutes of sound waves and then you hear " Now you feel relaxed ..." and I would get mad "well I was relaxed until you have stared talk". For this reason  I never could use it completely .I have " I do not like to listen authority syndrome". Anyhow after extended period of time I was able to achieve  very weak state of altered conscience during my dreaming,  but never totally lucid dream. On other hand it helped amazingly with dream recollection. My memory and logic understanding has improved (even though I do not know if it was intention of that particular series). Right know I am using Brain wave generator which can be purchased from internet addition to it you can download different presets for sound waves. I feel that BWG presets are not yet  at same level of quality as Hemisync and I do not mean quality of sound but quality how they work.
   There are three reason why I am using BW . First it helps eliminate outside sounds. Second it help oversound  tinnitus I have in my left ear which in my case is  high pitch tone. Interestingly it always happen only when I try to meditate and relax. Third one it will  get me into altered state almost immediately. Mind you that I have achieve only four  out of body experience and it was because I used waking up in dream technique. Therefore BW are not magic bullets.
   A few extras. I never use it when I have headache ,because it amplify and extend the pain .I do not use it when I feel that I am on the verge of getting headache ,because it can override pills which usually help me .
   Observation. My guess is that Monroe's institute is layering a few different frequencies plus let say after 5 minutes of theta waves they change frequencies to alpha or beta states  maybe for 30 sec to awaken you and prevent to fall asleep and then again go back to theta.
   One extra experience. As I have prepared wave CD from wave generator program
my computer started screen saver "aquarium" and what I have gotten was 15 minutes of theta wave spiked with the sound of the "aquarium" screen saver, unaware of this fact I used it. What happened is that in the moment when the sound of aquarium started suddenly I was in front of my PC, but because it continued I realized my mistake I returned to my body and woke up.
   
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[spiral]

Hey Thanks MajorTom, I've been doing wave 1 aswell, and your post has helped confirm alot for me. From my experience, I pretty much agree with all that you've written and its nice to hear that others have had similar experiences with focus 10.
I'm just starting wave 2 now, I'm sooo excited! Have you done much in focus 12 yet? I'd like to hear about it.
Maybe we should start a new thread for Gateway Wave 2 pointers.[]

[Eol007]

Hi MajorTom,

Great to see you on the forum again (for ever how long you can afford)! No doubt everyone, myself included is really valuing your recent contribution and astute observations. Good on you!

Kind wishes,


Stephen []

[spiral]

quote:Originally posted by MajorTom


Glad to hear you have similar experiences. What are your experiences with the reball? Similar to as what describe where "body" bounderies are located further away rom the body?

My REBALL is egg shaped and golden in colour, I had difficulty in the initial exercise imagining the fountain of energy pouring from my head to feet, I find it a lot easier to just expand it from my middle outwards. Until recently I've only really been thinking of it as a protective forcefield, and I tend to forget about it once I've "activated" it, unless I feel defensive in which case I'll  re-pop it... But in my last excercise I played with it a little while in F10. I expanded it beyond my room and then beyond my house, thefurther I went the harder I had to focus, and when I stopped focusing it seemed to snap back to its origonal egg shape just around my body. I sense that with more practice I will find it easier to hold a larger perception. Whatever size my reball is, I am still aware of my physical "position", but I've only just started playing around with this tool so pehaps that'll change in time.

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I got an idea of what to expect, bbut I try to move ahead very slowly. Sofar I've been able to hold a focus 10 state with two dogs barking in my bed [8D]. That's actually aother thing that differentiates fcus 10 from a hypnagogic state or lower focus levels. If you startle or snap out of the experience very quickly, you probably weren't in focus 10. Similar to your experiences?

Yep, my flat can be really noisey at times, so I definitely share your experiences here.  I find that in focus 10, I am not only relaxed physically, but am also emotionally calm. Kinda like when you've just woken from a really peaceful dream and your still in that serene relaxed state of mind. So any disturbances I easily brush off or make use of (one time I had a fly buzzing around me like a jumbo jet and I made use of the sound and shifted my perception to flying around my room). I waver in and out of awareness quite a bit in focus 10, I figure this is caused by that anoying lifelong habit I have of going to sleep![] I have also had the experience of feeling like I'm still awake and thinking that I haven't been successful, only to find that infact I've been in F10 all along.
I tried a focus 12 exercise the other night and my flatmates came home just as I got to focus 10 and started singing horendously in the lounge, I decided that it was too disturbing to get to focus 12 and so I tried to wake up.. I found that I was deeper than I thought and I had to count my self back to C1, to find the energy to fulfill my intent.

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Technically speaking, focus 12 will represent another phase shift further away from the physical, and a greater reduction of phisical stimuli to the extent that one becomes more fully "alligned" with one's non-physical energy or second body. Some contact with space/time (i.e. one's immediate environment) is still possible there with regards to an awareness of one's spatial position in the RTZ if one focuses on it.

Well, I've had my first experience with Focus12 and, as expected, it was much more intense than focus10.  The first exercise in Wave 2 is intro to focus12 and it takes you back and forwarth between F10 and F12. The main difference for me is that my body became well and truly asleep in F12, while it was really just numb in F10.  This allowed me to expand my awareness beyond my body focus perception. Very cool! So I had an experience inside a visualisation, where my main intent was to meet others for guidance or just energy experience. I received guidance and also encountered an entity who seemed somewhat confused and directionless. I didn't really find out much more before the exercise finished and I was back to C1, but it was very encouraging.  

[spiral]

Wow, MajorTom, you're at the same tape as me, thats fantastic![]

I'm gonna spend some more time playing with my reball (that was the message I recieved in focus 12), but to answer your question; When I expanded my reball I sort of used both techniques, first I imagined the expanded area, then I pushed my energy into it so that I actually felt the expansion within myself. What sort of experiences have you had with yours?

I've always been a bit of a daydreamer, so I tend towards visualisation anyway, but with the enhanced wave and seagull noises on this tape I couldn't help but see myself on a beach at sunset[^][^] I found Franks origonal post on this thread particularly helpful, though I don't think I've quite got to the shift from imagination to lived in experience yet. I agree with you that it has alot to do with confidence and intention.  When like attracts like, the ability to face your own fears is invaluable.

Something that I've noticed is that while in focus 10 I waver between awareness and dreamstate, but once beyond and into focus 12, I find myself much more able to hold concious awareness. Have you noticed this?

[spiral]

I've done a few more excercises, and I've been playing with my Reball alot. I just thought I'd list a few of the things I've tried with it.

During one exercise I wasn't having much luck with getting my body to go to sleep in Focus 10, I started feeling my body temperature drop and I got the chills, I imagined my reball as a ball of sunshine engulfing my body and found it helped emensely.

Near the end of the same exercise I was experiencing a fair bit of pain in my shoulder, I think I was lying funny on it, so I shrunk my reball down to about the size of a basketball and moved it over my shoulder. I felt an almost instant relief which lasted until I finished the hemi-sync and was able to sit up.

I have tried to move my reball away from me, but sofar I haven't had much luck. Expanding it has worked though, and I've been trying to expand it and then relocate my perspective within it.


I think the tools given to you through out the Gateway tapes have a whole lot more potential that what is initially appearant.

[mactombs]

One thing I'd like to add to this great thread from my personal experience: relaxation is wonderful. My mind is very overactive. When I lay down to practice, I'll have three conversations and a song repeating over and over in my mind, and not be able to focus on one thing longer than a couple seconds. But I don't worry about this at all. I just relax, deeper and deeper.

When I get to a deeper point of relaxation, it becomes very easy to clear my mind and focus. The only thing that disturbs this is excitement or impatience, but these can be worked through. When I'm more deeply relaxed, my imagination is also far more clear and potent. Things like this happen naturally the more relaxed you are.

Relax!

[Frank]

There's two people currently on this BBS who have listened to the Wave 1 CD without much progress; and I suspect there may be more who have long since lobbed them to the back of a drawer somewhere, after listening to the CDs without having any real results.

Now I find that strange because, for me, the Wave 1 CD has been a very effective tool in my efforts to gain control over the exit process; and to try and work out where Monroe is coming from when he speaks about "phasing in" to the Astral; instead of doing like I used to, for example, which was the feeling of being shot from a cannon and landing within the Astral somewhere; with no real control whatsoever.

Now I know myself pretty well by now, and I know for a fact that I do not have any natural talent for this obe stuff. I make the point because someone could say the reason why I am successful, is because I have a natural talent for projection, and so forth. Not a bit. All my gains are hard fought let me assure you. Though, in hindsight, I feel it is because I have no real talent for things of this nature, I've been forced to use my imagination to quite a high degree.

It was when I read the following, that I suddenly thought where people may be going wrong:

ps : Franks quote :
"Okay, tell me what are you imagining when you go from the energy conversion box to Focus 3?"

In my case, I was trying to concentrate on an image that I could see behind my eyelids, I think that Mr. Jeff Mash mentioned this in one of his posts.

Concentrating on an image behind your closed eyelids, and imagining you are going from your Energy Conversion Box to Focus 3: are entirely *different* things.

You see, the Wave 1 CD does not in any way "induce" the obe state. In other words you cannot simply lie back, think of any old thing, and 10 minutes down the line you float out of the room. All the CD does is to provide an outline structure, and *you* have to provide the infill. But that's what makes it so effective. The way you provide that infill, is to use your imagination.

What I thought I'd do (excuse the length) is to give you a rundown of my experience that demonstrates what I mean. Personally, I'm surprised at the lack of support information supplied by TMI. I would have thought some kind of similar rundown example would have been supplied with the CDs. This would at least give people an example to work from, which they could just chop and change to suit.

Okay, here goes.............

Wave 1, CD1, Track 2:

OCEAN SURF

Place physical body in a relaxed position, take a few deep breaths and check head and neck is comfy and properly supported. Then I imagine my sense of conscious awareness is drifting upwards to the top of my consciousness cone.

NOTE: I posted before about how I imagine my consciousness to be a cone with everyday thoughts, actions, etc., at the bottom of the cone: with the start of the Astral at the top.

GO NOW TO YOUR ENERGY CONVERSION BOX

I time it so that when I imagine I reach the top of the cone, Monroe says the above.

At the top of my consciousness cone is an attic room. At the opposite side to which I enter there is a doorway marked "Border to the Astral" in large letters. At the centre of the room is a large wooden box. Standing next to the box is Clive, the butler, who helps me lift the lid of the box and remove my Physical sheathe. We open the lid and inside is a lower area containing any Physical-matter concerns, etc. The upper area has a shelf where my Physical sheathe can lie safely until I next collect it.

So I wriggle out of my Physical sheathe to reveal my body of light. Clive takes the sheathe while asking me if I have anything else to deposit in the box (which I hand over as necessary). He lays the sheathe out and we close the heavy lid.

I walk through the doorway marked "Border to the Astral" and step outside into the fresh clean air; the sand underfoot is soft and warm; the atmosphere is comforting; everything feels secure and familiar. I look behind and Clive is standing in the doorway wishing me a safe journey. I thank him for his assistance and he closes the door. On the outside of the door is marked "To C1" in large letters.

Ahead is a pathway composed of inlaid, white stone slabs that contrast with the golden brown of the sand. The path leads to my resonant-tuning pyramid. It's a pyramid structure, but with a flat top about ten feet square and around 10 feet in height. Each of the four sides has steps from top to bottom. The structure is made of the same stone as the pathway and, to the right of the pyramid, is a large golden-coloured harp.

BEGIN NOW YOUR PROCESS OF RESONANT TUNING

I time it so that as Monroe instructs the above, I begin climbing the steps to the top of my resonant-tuning pyramid. I sit in the Lotus position, on a large cushion, on the flat top. A helper appears to play the harp and pick the strings that resonate with the sounds on the CD. The whole area vibrates and sings in harmony. Ripples of joy run through me as each string is plucked and my body of light tingles and glows a pure white.

NOW RELAX AND BREATHE NORMALLY

At the point where Monroe says the above, I walk down the front steps of the pyramid, take a few more steps forward, and stand on a large inlaid, white stone slab marked "Declaration Stone". As I do so, a white mist appears in front of me. When it clears, I see a large round structure has arisen from the sand. I walk down the path to a door marked "Declaration Room".

I enter the room and I'm right away flanked by two Saintly-looking people each dressed in a pure white silk robe. In front of me is a large crystal Orb that is glowing with an orange/yellow light. Both sides of the Orb, facing me, are 2 more Saint like people that stand as official witnesses to my declaration.

I take a bow and give my declaration. As I do so the Orb begins to pulsate. The colour changes and becomes progressively less orange turning to a brighter and brighter yellow. Then it becomes a pure white as I come to the end of my declaration. At this moment, a door opens to my right. I'm ushered to this doorway and look out. On the ground to my left is a pointed sign, saying "To Focus 3" in large letters. Looking in the direction of the sign I can see the Focus 3 archway in the distance. At the same time, Monroe says, "Now you will move to Focus 3."

Now Monroe starts the count to Focus 3:

While Monroe is talking, I'm acknowledging what he is saying while walking down the stone path towards the F3 archway. I stand on a stone slab and I look down and see, deeply and clearly engraved in the stone is, "F1". (Note: this action is timed with the CD, like always.) I acknowledge the engraving on the slab by looking at it for a few moments, and then continue walking. Next I come across another similar slab, only this time the engraving on the stone says, "F2".

Then I walk forwards towards the F3 archway.

I time it so that as I stand under the large archway, Monroe says, "3" followed by, "relax and enjoy...." etc. At which point I turn around and look back down the path and see the Declaration Room where I just came from. Then I turn to settle into a large reclining chair that is under the archway. I sit down and look into the distance. I can see my F10 hut sitting on top of a plateau area. A steadily inclining white stone pathway leads to my F10 hut.

I relax into the chair and recline it. As I do so, a female helper appears.

Now Monroe starts the relaxation process starting, "Let your jaw relax......" As Monroe directs, the female helper massages my head and facial area while I just lie back and enjoy!

As Monroe begins saying about letting the relaxation process flow into the brain, I get up and thank my helper and she wishes me a successful journey. Now I stand outside the archway looking across to my F10 hut. I Look down and wiggle my toes as Monroe begins saying, "into your toes.........." etc. As Monroe talks about the relaxation flow from the brain, I imagine myself slowly filling up with a kind of liquid that makes me feel vibrant and totally in tune with my surroundings.

I'M GOING TO COUNT NOW

Now I begin walking along the white stone path towards my F10 hut. Monroe says, "4" and I time it so that, at that point, I'm standing on a slab engraved with "F4" in large letters at the top. I look down and acknowledge that I am at F4 by looking at the engraved figures for a few moments. Then, still standing still on the slab, I do the observation and relaxation exercises as Monroe prompts.

Then I walk forwards some more, and I time it so that when Monroe says, "5" I'm standing on a slab marked "F5". There I do the exercises Monroe suggests, then do the same with, "6"; "7" and "8". First acknowledge the engraving on the slab; do the exercises as per Monroe's prompting; and when Monroe is silent between counts, continue walking down the path. (Obviously it takes a short while to learn the CD and get the timing absolutely right.)

After "9" I continue up the path and arrive at the foot of some stone steps, which lead upwards to the plateau on which my F10 hut is situated. I walk up the steps and see, about 30 yards ahead, is the entrance to my F10 hut. Between this is another embedded stone slab engraved with a large "F10" at the top. I walk forwards, stand on the slab and look down acknowledging the engraved "F10". At this moment, Monroe says, "10". Then I go through the prompted exercise, just like before with the previous slabs.

Then Monroe repeats the number "10" several times, during which I'm walking towards the entrance of my F10 hut. I open the door, enter the hut, and close the door behind me. I stand for a moment and Monroe says, "Relax and be calm and comfortable in Focus 10".

On the opposite wall to the door I came in, is a large opening through which is Focus 12 (and on to the Astral proper). The scene through the opening is like a clear night sky, with the deep blackness punctuated by millions of stars and planets. Sometimes I just stand and admire the view, listening to Monroe's voice on the CD. Or I may leave the hut and fly around. But not too far as it's easy to get carried away and lose the fact that this is an exercise. (The return from which is very important for the exercise as a whole.)

The return:

On one wall of my F10 hut is a door marked "Direct Return to C1" On Monroe's prompt, "You will return now to full Physical waking reality, as I count from 10 down to 1" I open the door, walk through into the large tunnel and close the door behind me.

I'M GOING TO COUNT NOW

Then Monroe says, "10" and I look at the door I just walked through, seeing it has "Entry to F10" written on it, in large letters. Then I start jogging down the tunnel and come to a door marked with a large figure "9". I quickly go through it (no need to close as it's spring loaded). Jogging along the descending tunnel I come to a similar door marked "8" then "7" then "6" and onto doorways 5, 4 and 2. (Have to be quick here as Monroe doesn't give you much time, but this does greatly add to the effect).

Going through doorway "2" I see the opening of the tunnel. I emerge next to the C1 door I stepped out of originally. The C1 door is open and Clive is beckoning me to hurry. He has my Physical sheathe ready which I step into quickly. He welcomes me back and asks if I'd like to take anything else from the box. I say, "Leave it, no time" and I descend quickly to ordinary waking consciousness at the bottom of my consciousness cone. This happens just after Monroe says, "1". (I always think, "Phew, just made it!")

Monroe then prompts, "wake up, open your eyes........" etc. So I do as prompted, in that I actually open my eyes, breathe deeply, and stretch my legs and arms, exactly as Monroe instructs.

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Well, that's it. Sorry for the length. I hope it will give people some ideas of how to use the CDs successfully, and would appreciate any feedback anyone may have.

Yours,
Frank

[Astral-Jas]

Well, you know that chair your sitting on? Well it was once in someones imagination, everything created was in the imagination, or else how would one invent a chair???   imagination=anything possible and "real"