Its All In Your Mind

[Metal Ice]

Light -good
Dark -bad

And you decide who's light & who's dark ?
Yeah, anyone can spout a bunch  of rhetoric with smiley faces
& accuse me of being a degenerate?
I'm a realist. I am not getting away from my psychic attacker because
of being too positive or negative (as is today's obsession) but because
I MOVED AWAY FROM THE PERSON.That would be physical. Positive thinking did not do it, thinking they could do something, did NOT make it happen
because i did not kNOW of these things so hOw could I have believed it? thank god, when i needed help from people on this forum, I had good, down to earth people to help me not the angry love & light (put white light around you people & pretend everythings rosy. And I have no problem with people making helpfull suggestions as long as they have been through Psy attack (like Robert Bruce) & don't tell people that it's "ALL IN THEIR HEADS"! That's rude & smug !

[arakara]

>Funny, I've been trying to think myself to die for close to three years now, with no luck, I'm still here.
dark knight

very interesting indeed.

>I'm a realist
Metal Ice

[|)]Yes, you are.

>It seems that this is a 'my belief is better than your believe stupid' thread.
Mick

Never said that. We arer all here to experience life in different ways. Some people just choose different paths. Thats all.

[arakara]

PS:
When I said "degenerate beliefs" I meant it.

[Mick]

quote:Originally posted by arakara


>It seems that this is a 'my belief is better than your believe stupid' thread.
Mick

Never said that. We arer all here to experience life in different ways. Some people just choose different paths. Thats all.

That is my summary of the thread, I never attributed it to anyone.

Yes, some people do use different paths and perhaps some people should give others the opportunity to explain and discuss their path rather than simply insult them.

[Metal Ice]

You belong to a cult then. Very Scary. And Your know it all attitude is a bit much. You choose to believe what you want.
No one choses a path in life. Sometimes things happen. As far as you calling me  a degenerate, you don't know me & seem very angry & smug
in your judgement of people.
Pull up all the quotes you want. That's how you make yourself feel superior to anyone else. You are in a cult.

[arakara]

Again, never said you were a degenerate metal ice. If somebody said you made a bad decision does that mean they said you're a bad person? N[:O]. Those are things we call "opinions". A degenerate belief and a degenerate person are two separate things.

>you don't know me & seem very angry & smug

I'm sorry, you had me laughing at that one. Actually, I find this discussion quite humorous. You must be mistaking my sarcasm & comically placed smily faces for anger[}:)]. As for the cult thing, basically what your saying is if someone thinks a certain way, or has certain opinions that are not like yours they are a cult. I was browsing around for definitions of this word, and here's what I came up with:

Of course, the problem with the word 'cult' is that it means different
things to different folks.  I'd like to put forward a behavioral definition:
An organization that uses intensive indoctrination techniques to recruit and
maintain members into a totalist ideology.

Intensive indoctrination techniques include:
1)  Subjection to stress and fatigue
2)  Social disruption, isolation and pressure
3)  Self criticism and humiliation
4)  Fear, anxiety and paranoia
5)  Control of information
6)  Escalating commitment
7)  Use of auto-hypnosis to induce 'peak' experiences


>source: http://www.ex-cult.org/General/cult.definition

As far as I can recall I do not belong to any such group or organization, nor have I ever been subjected to any such techniques. If by saying that I belong to a cult you mean "I have ideas different then yours" then you might have something. That is, unless define college according to the definition above, then I would say yes I have been subjected to parts 1-6. My professors have yet to provide any 'peak' experiences though.

>Yes, some people do use different paths and perhaps some people should give others the opportunity to explain and discuss their path rather than simply insult them.

I don't recall calling anyone any names or insults. I thought we were discussing the issues.[] Here's was my basic point: a change in beliefs = a change in circumstance. Since it takes up the same amount of energy to think a positive thought as it would to think a negative thought, then why not try it out. Other people responded my refuting my orignal premise, often using off-the-wall statements to back up their claims (9/11=compassion for mankind, reality-manifestion = mental illness), so I responded with subtly incindiary remarks coupled with a solid foundational argument, all rythmically laced with smiley faces.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

arakakra
You need to understand a lot of what i posted was told to me by my attacker. You wouldn't believe most of the things this man has told me you would laugh. I now laugh about the warped crap this man told me. Talk about psychic experiences wow i could fill a book. Look back at what i wrote where he told me things lol. Of couse it was to instill fear into me. I see it plainly now. But at the time not knowing much about magic and the metaphyics you don't know what is posible. Sometimes it's nice hearing someone say that now of this can happen. I guess it just shows what kind of a sick attacker I have.
I am presently working with someone to find answer to the two of us and others. This persons attacker told her about him having the keys to the doorway of the subconscious. Does anyone know what this means?
from my understanding he has the keys to her subconsciousness. Which leads me to believe this is also my experience.
I was also told that my attacked has me out of line. I would assume this is my chakras, not only that it would have to do with the alignments of the planets.
What is being done to us isn't some simple magic. These man are experienced. They have done this for atleast 30 years. As soon as something is undone they are doing something else. It's a constant battle for us.
Another thing you need to understand this is more of a possession for us. I can feel the energy this person sends me. I aslo believe this persons energy is with me. Until this is taken care of many techniques are not going to work for us.
One night i felt my attacker run through me, he was in my aura close to my chest. He came from the feet up. Robert talks about entering someone when they are out of body this man did it while i was there, it was probably on a different level but he still went through me.
I have been searching for ways to close the aura to keep them out.
Not only that my two boys have felt the energy in their feet. I was told that this is how this man got in.
This isn't a simple matter or just a vampire attack for energy.

[arakara]

Here is an article that goes into a little discussion on what I was talking about:

Quantum Perception
By Kevin L. Puppos
9-9-3

I find that the intellect can only carry one just so far- the tendency is for intellect to operate along limited lines of evidence and logic, and intellect has the failing that it does not adequately integrate all aspects of reality- by definition, it has to pick and choose just which things to look at, which things will fit the pre- existing sensory conditioned worldview of the intellect holder ( its systematics ). That is the process by which intellect works- NOT A BAD DEAL now, just insufficient.
 
One of the only ways by which to most effectively integrate one's conscious and subconscious awarenesses of reality is to MEDITATE.
 
Frankly, meditation is what gets most of the credit for my having been at all hopeful or capable of opening up to other views and gradually shedding my former ones.
 
Hierarchically driven societies such as ours do so very strongly socialize people into the ways that are acceptable to the maintaining of the leadership systems- the exercise of rulership and power, well lubricated by the workings of the money system, merely serve to perpetuate themselves along with the huge social problems that such narrow inefficient systems fail practically to address, almost by definition in the case of American Capitalism.
 
Raw Capitalism and unlimited ' free markets ' work best where a people have the OPTION of obtaining their basic needs from the land whereupon they live- trading at levels of economy above basic creature needs- that is why American Capitalism evolved when it did IN ONE OF THIS WORLD'S ONLY FRONTIER COUNTRIES at that time, IN THE FIRST PLACE ! Once capitalist abuses and the resulting social imbalances took hold ' back East ', people were still free to move farther into the frontier, ' Go West.....'. Which is exactly WHAT they did, and WHY THEY WENT. Except that today there is no more American ' frontier ' worth mentioning, and the planet as a whole is fast losing frontier lands as well.
 
Thus, Socialism is almost mandatory for the workings of a ' healthy ' centralized society ( maybe an oxymoron itself ).
 
The centralized distribution of resources in attempting to supply human needs IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE NOW- but more than any other system, money and finance in Capitalism is a very inaccurate representation of true wealth and economic status. ( That is why nations around the world are quickly adopting the new debt- free EURO- currency as their standard for International Trade. ) Business is essentially a competitive game that is played by adult humans who we forget are really overgrown children. And such children display little if any sensitivity to the plight of their fellow human beings who are lacking basic creature needs and human rights. They have not a clue the harm being perpetrated in the name of ' system ', a collective blindness eagerly indulged in by the most influential members of the ruling and wealthy caste. Any country overseas who resists the exploitation of their own nation's resources by Corporate America as endorsed by U.S. foreign policy is hysterically libeled and so conveniently labeled ' TERROR '.
 
That is why there is now occurring a dramatic dovetailing together of many ' liberal ' minded forces and movements in American society ( catalyzed by the New Age )- people are slowly becoming aware, or are being made aware, of a substantially different view of reality than the one we were allowed under the typical Anglo- Saxon Culture we inherited from our forefathers. Imperial Anglo- Saxon Culture works only for those who can use up resources locally ( and then apply those to playing the system ), and then are free to move on to the next region to be victimized. It ' works ', that is, unless or until the tribes wake up and resist, as the Moslems do today, or until the most accessible resources of the globe are simply used up once and for all time. We show almost no sign of changing our course under the Fundamentalist Bush Cabinet. So, we can expect more and mounting wars, and escalating social problems- a national dynamic that, historically, typically never puts the brakes on of its own volition- and so collapse may be the only possible outcome. There has never yet been an Empire that saw its way to change course once its decline set in. EXCEPT to keep on keeping on doing the same old same old...
 
The goal of ultimate security, perfect peace, is the very thing we drive away from ourselves by clinging to the illusion that we can have it all at the expense of those who shall and do end up with nothing- the REAL WORLD JUST DOES NOT OPERATE THAT WAY. Not for long.
 
Native Peoples worldwide have known these things FOR MILLENNIA- that is the precise REASON why they were not interested in developing these artificial materialistic systems for themselves- they could have- they chose not to do so- then and today- their close contact with the Natural World kept their societies ever in present awareness and detailed remembrance of how the world really operates ( Natives call it A- Walk- In- The- Woods )- but when the time came for the institution of mono- crop agriculture to solidify that way of separation from the natural cycles and ecologies in the land, the lessons taught by the lands were cut down along with the clear- cut trees, whose sacrifice made way for yet more agriculture and irrigation and the human overpopulation IT CAUSED !
 
And so you have it, in a nutshell, functionally speaking, just how this system got started AS a narrow, intellectually driven system, and some insights on how it perpetuates itself, as if it all were like an independently living thing in its own right.
 
It just goes to show that we need to be very careful what we pray for, or ask for. These kinds of things DO have the limited capacity to take on a life all their own, as is suggested by Quantum Mechanics.
 
Now, there are those of us who believe that it is likely that the earth itself, as a planet, obtains a kind of conscious awareness as a result of the collective quantum field of all the combined awareness of the countless creatures who inhabit her ecosphere.
 
Some evidence for this may be seen in the phenomenon of the Crop Circles and their attendant ' balls of light '.
 
I have to reiterate that there is something here that truly is beyond mere line of reasoning of the human intellect- human intellect being driven by and largely limited to the double dualities of word comparisons and branching logic structures- both strongly affected by local cultural bias in the first place- specifically our developing technology. Again, not the most reliable view of reality obtainable ( though certainly not just junk, either ). For, at one time, humans knew no way of life OTHER THAN one in closeness to the experience of Nature with her literally limitless capacity for Novelty and Variety. Our sensory input was under such conditions continually bombarded with an ever changing kaleidoscope of variety and newness and wonder really, that the mind was constantly kept open, WIDE open, to the more subtle phenomenon of not just one's inner and outer world being fully integrated, but also such things as paranormal phenomenon that otherwise pass by undetected or un- appreciated by today's highly focused minds of specialized modern cultures. True, no two snowflakes are alike, but that is mass produced boredom compared to the truly endless variety observable in all of Nature.
 
In fact, there is another and unexpected level to which we may take these observations of Nature's unpredictability.
 
Is every electron identical to every other electron ? It had been almost taken for granted that that was the case, for over a hundred years now. One particle of type would be impossible to distinguish from any other in the Universe, almost by definition. NOT SO TODAY ! The last decade has seen the discovery of the phenomenon of ENTANGLEMENT- that two subatomic particles, photon pairs or electron pairs thus far, obtain a quantum link at the foundational ground of being, technically said to be Quantum Entangled, wherein THEIR PAST RELATIONSHIP TO ONE ANOTHER OBTAINS A PERMANENT AND IRREVOCABLE STATUS FUNDAMENTALLY AFFECTING THEIR FUTURE INTERACTIONS. In other words, the past history of a particle has, to some extent, a direct bearing on its current and future condition and therefore behavior. In fact, this Entangled State transcends all space and time limitations, including the direction of Time's arrow, and is opening up the possibility of instantaneous forms of communication and even of teleportation of mass through space at infinite velocity ( and I postulate even time travel ). So far as is known, this phenomenon extends only to the extent of their very next sequential interactions. However, there is growing evidence that this is hardly the beginning of the story of Particle Entanglement, let alone the end- for, this entanglement MAY BE TRANSFERABLE, expandable, manipulatable, to the extent that EVERY PARTICLE IN THIS UNIVERSE IS ULTIMATELY IN AN ENTANGLED STATE WITH EVERY OTHER PARTICLE ! This is a condition inherited from the the Origins of the Primal Fireball at the inception of the Universe at the Big Bang.
 
But there is EVEN MORE...
 
There is some reason to believe that THE VERY BASIS OF THIS UNIVERSE, ITS OWN FOUNDATIONAL PHYSICAL LAWS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF EVOLVING IN CONCERT WITH THE EVOLUTION OF HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS AND EXPERIENCE ! That is, HUMAN AWARENESS, PERCEPTION AND INTENTION IS ACTUALLY BRINGING ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE TO THE PHYSICAL LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL, THE GROUND OF BEING.
 
AND THAT IS THE ULTIMATE REALITY !
 
The Laws of the Universe are evolving in concert with our perception of it !
 
A kind of Quantum ' Natural Selection '.
 
Of course, this may all be VERY SUBTLE, barely discernible, but nonetheless VERY REAL.
 
So, I think we can at LEAST be agreeable that the human Imagination is well beyond the Intellect, if nothing else.
 
Look at this- we have also been assuming that Quantum phenomenon apply in an obvious way ONLY TO PHENOMENA OF ULTRAMICROSCOPIC SCALE. But again, NOT SO.
 
How does the engine in your car operate- whether or not it is a diesel, a gasoline, an electric or a hybrid engine system- does it work by Quantum Principles or by strictly Linear Newtonian Principles- MACROscopically now ! Be careful how you think about this one.......this is so obvious, yet I am the only person I know to have ever suggested this ! WHY DO MOST ALL OF OUR ENERGY SYSTEMS OPERATE ACCORDING TO QUANTIZED PULSES THAT ACCUMULATE A MOMENTUM OVER TIME ? ! That momentum usually being applied ' angularly ' to increase the ' spin ' of a macroscopic ' particle ' ( though not always ) ? I can even make the argument that a jet engine, a solid fuel rocket motor, a liquid fuel rocket motor and a steam turbine, ALL operate, at least to a degree, according to quantized pulses. Here is THAT argument- sort of in reverse- first, you have to view the jet stream as a wave function that has variations in its flow that are essentially a manifestation, on a macroscopic scale, of underlying QUANTUM wave functions. It is really a no- brainer for a physicist/ mathematician type ! It is THOSE VERY PRESSURE WAVE DENSITY VARIATIONS that have to be accounted for in the design of a safe, efficient, smoothly running jet engine. Even a rocket engine can be best described as supplying A SINGLE LONG- LIVED IMPULSE. And, the blades of a turbine are actually making little quantized ' cuts ' into the jet stream, parsing or sectioning it off into many, many TURBULENT eddies, which eddies never quite perfectly recombine in the exhaust- exiting the engine as macroscopic ' wave packets '.
 
EVERYTHING IS QUANTUM !
 
And, believe it or not, that one statement sums up practically the ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY of the New Age Movement-
 
EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED-
 
ALL- IS- ONE !
 
A decidedly Buddhist concept, if I may say so.
 
And thus our discussion cycles itself back around to MEDITATION-
 
NOT AN ACCIDENT OF LOGIC !
 
Are we New Agers merely seeing what we WANT TO SEE in the Universe ?- EUREKA ! Yes, now you are truly beginning to UNDERSTAND !
 
Kevin L. Puppos, 419- 868- 6140
 
422 Aberdeen Dr.
 
Holland, Ohio 43528- 9313 USA

[arakara]

Now, this is a scientific cooberation the reality-manifestation & quantum perception areas discussed. Just scroll down past the names at the beginning. From the Remote Psychic Lobby group.

---[|)]
J. Acoust. Soc. Am., Vol. 81, No. 5, May 1987 Pages 1323 - 1326
A criterion for an energy vortex in a sound field
R. V. Waterhouse
David Taylor Naval Ship R&D Center, Bethesda, Maryland 20084 and Physics Department, American University, Washington, DC 20016
D. G. Crighton
Department of Applied Mathematics, Cambridge University, Cambridge CB3 9EW, England
J. E. Ffowcs-Williams
Department of Engineering, Cambridge University, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, England
(Received 1 December 1986; accepted for publication 26 January 1987)
Measurements with intensity meters have shown that energy vortices exist in certain sound fields. In these vortices, sound energy flows around closed paths, in the steady state. Vortices occur in some sound fields (e.g., that of a point source near a reflecting edge), but not in others (e.g., that of a plane rigid piston in a plane rigid baffle). It is shown that in a two-dimensional or axisymmetric sound field, a necessary and sufficient condition for a vortex to exist is the presence of an isolated maximum or minimum in the stream function. Two examples are given for a vortex in (a) a duct of square cross section, and (b) the field of two monopole sources, one of which just extinguishes the other. Some relations for the interaction between two monopole sources are also given.
* http://sound.media.mit.edu/~dpwe/AUDITORY/jasa/v81/n5/v81n5p1323.html
Theory of Fluctuating Nonholonomic Fields and
Applications:

Statistical Mechanics of Vortices and Defects and
New Physical Laws in Spaces with Curvature and Torsion
H. Kleinert
Institut für Theoretische Physik
Freie Universität Berlin
Arnimallee 14 D - 14195 Berlin
Abstract:
We demonstrate the power of using nonholonomic fields in various physical systems. Functional integrals over nonholonomic fields describe the statistical mechanics of defects in crystals and of vortices in superfluids and superconductors. Nonholonomic distortions of spacetime transform known physical laws in flat space into hitherto unknown laws in spaces with curvature and torsion, thereby leading to a new quantum equivalence principle for the quantum mechanics in such spaces. A gauge structure inherent in nonholonomic fields is exhibited and analyzed.
* http://www.physik.fu-berlin.de/~kleinert/kleiner_re227/camlec.html
The vortex; key to future science
Introduction
In 1867, Lord Kelvin described atoms as vortex rings; the movement of the vortex giving rise to the illusion of matter. This theory was advocated and elaborated by celebrated scientists like Helmholtz, Maxwell and Sir Thomson. In the 20th century however, the vortex principle was forgotten when scientists discovered sub-atomic particles. The atom no longer was considered as the smallest quantity of matter, since it could be divided into smaller elementary particles.
In their book "The Vortex. Key to future science", British scientists David Ash and Peter Hewitt revitalize the concept of vortex energy by stating that not an atom but
- an elementary particle is a vortex of energy -
This vortex of energy is a spiral movement of energy around a continuously changing axis, thus forming a sphere-shaped movement of energy. With this concept, Einstein's famous formula E=mc2, stating that matter is equivalent to energy, is easier to understand. Matter is equivalent to energy because it is vortex movement of energy. Einstein's formula contains the velocity of light c. According to Ash and Hewitt, the velocity of the vortex movement of energy in our physical universe is equal to, or less than, the velocity of light.
Transubstantiation and the super-physical realm
The velocity of the vortex movement of energy is not limited. When this velocity exceeds the speed of light, the corresponding particle enters a "super-physical" reality. It is no longer detectable with human senses or physical instruments; invisible and intangible in our physical world. Objects that become super-physical even transcend our notion of space and time. The super-physical realm has its own notion of space and time, different from ours. By slowing down the movement of the vortex energy, the object would re-appear in our world. Ash and Hewitt call this process of speeding up the vortex energy movement beyond the critical speed of light or slowing down below the critical speed: transubstantiation. Transubstantiation only changes the substance of an object, not its form. It does not change the atomic or molecular structure of a body. This process of transubstantiation is also mentioned in the book "Keys of Enoch" by James Hurtak, who calls it transvirulance.
Through transubstantiation, an object can dematerialize and materialize. Thus, paranormal phenomena can be explained. The Indian holy man Sri Satya Sai Baba for instance is well known for his ability to materialize objects at will: for instance jewelry, and even extremely rare specimens of fruit. Several scientific studies concluded that the observed phenomena are genuine. When asked by one investigator, Professor of Psychology Haraldsson, how he materializes objects, Sai Baba replied: "Mental creation. I think, imagine, and then it is there." To the question why the majority of people is not capable of doing this, he answered "We are all like matches. The difference is that I am on fire." Sai Baba's mental capacities allow him to induce transubstantiation.
Mind is the basic substance. Matter is the name given to mind when it takes form.
Matter, space and time as aspects of the vortex
Besides matter, also space and time can be seen as aspects of the vortex. Consider a vortex of energy forming matter. A vortex is not restricted to a certain area. As the vortex extends out, the energy would get thinner, would get infinitesimal small at large distances from the center, but would never disappear. This very thin matter is the apparent void of space. Or, one could say, matter is very dense space. Matter and space are two aspects of the same vortex of energy. We only perceive matter and space as different because of our senses. All our senses are limited. Our awareness is constrained within certain bands by our threshold of perception. (For instance: we can only see a limited part of the light spectrum. Our eyes can not detect light below ultraviolet or beyond infrared.) Matter is the dense central region of the vortex, which we can detect with our senses. Space consists of the thin peripheral region of the vortex, which is below our threshold of perception. Matter has no real boundary; its surface is subjective, corresponding to the lowest intensity of vortex energy that we can perceive. We experience everyday matter as substantial because it represents a high concentration of vortex energy. In bodies of matter, billions of vortexes are packed together in atoms and molecules. The surface of a solid, or liquid, or even a cloud of gas, marks a sudden increase in the number of vortices. This sudden high concentration of vortex energy is what our senses perceive as matter. Objects appear to have a boundary. But this is an illusion. It is simply that our senses are incapable of detecting the sparse energy spreading out in all directions. Space can be pictured as a bubble of vortex energy surrounding matter. If it would be possible to remove every particle of matter in the universe, then space would completely disappear also. On the other hand, space is shaped according to the matter it engulfs. This is predicted by Relativity Theory also and is verified by experiments. Light from distant stars does not travel in straight lines through space. It is deflected by other stars that are close to its path. Once when Einstein was asked to explain his Relativity Theory in a few sentences, his reply in a nutshell was: "Remove matter from the universe, and you also remove space and time." In view of the vortex theory, time can be seen as emanating from the movement of the vortex. In general, time is established by a consecutive sequence of events. Thus the movement of the vortex creates time.
A hierarchy of super-physical realms
An object of which the speed of the vortex movement is increased above the speed of light will disappear from this physical universe and enter a super-physical universe. This super-physical universe has its own space-time realm, distinct from the physical space-time. The physical and super-physical universes are interpenetrating each other. They are not separated by space and time but by a dimension that is the speed of the vortex movement. It is well possible that this super-physical realm has its own critical speed of vortex movement; for instance twice the speed of light. Going through this barrier would transubstantiate an object into a second higher realm of super-energy and so on. Each higher realm includes all the lower ones, because greater speeds contain all lesser speeds. In each realm, all forms of energy with speeds at or below the speed of its critical speed can exist. The super-physical is the living sphere of nature elementals like elves, gnomes and fairies. Higher realms are occupied by angelic beings, of which is often said that they inhabit a hierarchy of worlds. In view of the vortex, each of these worlds would be characterized by a certain critical speed of the vortex energy.
This concept of a hierarchy of super-physical worlds can be viewed in what is known in the healing world as the energy bodies that surround a physical body. Each energy body could be a body in one of the super-physical realms.
Through scientific experiments it is known that each living physical body is surrounded by an energy body that is the blueprint of the physical body. Before a plant starts to grow a leaf, it can be detected in the energy field surrounding the plant. Changes in the physical form can be detected in the energy field first. According to David Ash this energy field is a super-physical field.
Interaction between the physical realm and super-physical realms
Super-energy interacts with living matter through resonance. The DNA in the cells of living organisms acts as a receiver of information from the super-physical realm. DNA molecules have a double helix structure coiled repeatedly upon itself, thus forming a coil reminiscent of that in a radio set. Just like a radio coil can pick up radio waves which the rest of the tuning device of the radio transforms into sound, the DNA picks up super-physical information and relays this to the cell. This information governs the development of the cell. For instance it determines if the cell behaves like a liver cell or a skin cell. All the genetic information of a living being is contained within the DNA. Each cell has the same DNA. The super-physical information received by the DNA determines which section of the DNA is read, which group of genes is switched on or off.
The double helix structure of DNA is not the end-stage of the human evolution. We are evolving towards a 6-double helix structure. This twelve stranded DNA coil will enable humans to receive information from multiple dimensions. Little known medical tests have shown that people who have been doing a lot of inner work through meditation have developed three or four stranded DNA. And many of the children born nowadays already enter the world with three or four stranded DNA.
Healing
In alternative medicine there are many different therapies employing a wide variety of techniques. There is a key principle which most of them share: the recognition of an invisible energy in and around the body, which is essential to its integrity and well being. The energy body is said to act as a blueprint for the physical form, influencing its processes and functions. If the energy body is treated, the physical body will heal itself. This energy body can be seen as a super-physical body interpenetrating the physical body.
Healing is a therapeutic interaction between the super-physical body of the practitioner and that of the patient without the intervention of any instruments or remedies. This interaction is based on resonance. The practitioner enters a state of consciousness to which the super-physical body of the patient starts to resonate. It is possible to heal at a distance, even going back or forward in time. This also becomes understandable in view of the vortex energy. The healer is operating on the super-physical level and thus can transcend our physical space and time.
Transubstantiation and space-time travel
Through transubstantiation, bodies can move out of the physical space-time, travel through the super-physical realm (outside space and time) and reappear in a different physical space-time. It is thus possible to traverse in a short time huge distances, that would require speeds exceeding the speed of light when traveled through our physical universe. It is also possible to travel back in time.
Trough the concept of transubstantiation, UFO phenomena, like the sudden appearance or disappearance of flying objects, can be explained. And simultaneously, the ability to transverse huge distances of interstellar space becomes understandable. It is not farfetched to suppose that an advanced alien life form has invented a machine that can change the speed of the energy movement of vortexes, or is able to do it by mental power.
Interesting in this view are the experiments by physicist Tesla in the beginning of this century. He is believed to have build a secret military machine, based on very high frequency electric and magnetic fields, that could make an object disappear for a while. In the so-called Philadelphia experiment, the USS Eldridge was anchored in Philadelphia harbor in the summer of 1943. It had a full crew on board and was equipped with Tesla's secret machinery. When Tesla's device was turned on, the ship became invisible and disappeared from the radar screen. Several minutes later it reappeared, but several crewmembers where merged with the ship and could only be freed through amputation. Two crewmembers where gone, only to reappear 40 years later in a top secret military complex. Reportedly, one of them was send back through time to stop the experiment. Their biological clock was deranged such that their aging process was speeded up. During the experiment, the ship has been seen at a location hundreds of miles away.
Conclusion
"The Vortex. Key to future science" is an important book. It raises consciousness. It also raises questions that are still to be answered.
Why does the super-physical realm have a different space-time concept? Space and time are both aspects of the vortex. Somehow the change in speed of the vortex movement of energy is supposed to change the concept of space and time. Why and how are not yet understood.
If the energy body of a living physical body is super-physical, how can it be detected by physical instruments? Is this through some kind of resonance process as in a radio or in the DNA?
* http://www.ledomedesprit.com/Void/vortex.html
School of Wisdom® Series: Volume 4

Chapter 14: The Physics of PrimaSounds?
By R.C.L.

" It appears as if PrimaSounds produce standing waves - a wall of sound effect - that is not tied to the acoustics of the room itself. Instead, it appears to have more to do with the people in the room and their energy fields."
* http://www.primasounds.com/PrimaSounds/ch14.html

[Rob]

Arakara

Forgive me for not reading this whole thread (I'll get to it tomorrow, skimmed bits for now), but the topic of "you create you own reality and this includes negs" has come up before, quite a lot of times (we really should make a sticky to address it....hmm), and I think is well addressed by RB's article at:
http://www.astralpulse.com/articles/robert/articles_39.htm
He also takes the arguments from new-agey channeled info, including I believe Seth (which I saw you mention), and his refutations are very relevant to the things you are saying. Evidence such as 9 month old babies coming under massive psychic attack from negs, for instance, cannot be explained with this popular theory. My own experience and logic also disprove this for a number of reasons, some of which are and some of which are not addressed in the article.

Personally, I used to believe in the 100% YCYOR model, but after a number of years trying to piece together the evidence for it, I had to drop it completely. For instance, the reverse of neg attacks, it does not include direct intervention by God, which I know to be real. IMO it might be a part of the picture, I see no reason why it should not be - but it is most certainly not the be all and end all of reality.

Rob

ps CM - how are you getting along fighting your attacker off? Please do tell..

pps Jane Roberts died of cancer while Seth, who claimed unlimited access to higher knowledge, rattled on about deconstructing and reconstructing her belief system.....

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    this is my first post and i have to say i am glad i waited.  i have view some of the archived posts dealing with energy development and "ki".....i am glad i waited.  this topic is extraordinarily relevant to the whole notion of "energy", "ki/chi", astral-this-and-that.  one of the problems that i can see with the dialog/discussion/debate is that, when dealing with ideas of how to define one's PERSONAL reality, we inevitably lose our awareness at times that we don't have a monopoly upon NOMINAL reality.  The unfortunate results of this loss in awareness can swing from the petty(I'm right and you are wrong)to the tyrannical(I'm good and you are evil).  I feel that a trememdous amount of open-mindedness and maybe even more so, a really strong sense of personal boundaries.  This is so important because we can all find ourselves at times, clinging to our personal belief or worldview, and when someone challenges this, whether with purpose or no, we can FEEL like they are attacking us and mistake this as reality, when in fact, that other is either strongly expressing his or her worldview or strongly questioning your beliefs.  Ok, sure right?  Well, I was very happy with the last couple of posts, because they shared ideas!  very exciting ideas; ideas exploring the nature of reality.  i have some pretty radical ideas about reality myself, and like everyone else those ideas have been formed by my study, intuition and personal experience.  in the context of the YCYOR worldview, i have this to offer- PARADOX.  my personal experience has shown me time and time again, i have the ability to create and destroy matter at will.  (that should grab your attention [:O]  yeah, i have had some pretty crazy experiences...cults, illuminati, native american shamans WOOHOO!!  no bs.  so i have had very real experiences in which i have simply thought things and the universe instantaneously responds.  i think this maybe the subtlety that people miss.....its not that you create your own reality, per se....but that if you can SEE it, your reality, dances with you!!!  its like a constant breath, thoughts, body movement, feelings, like the world tree...if the world is a tree, it breathes out and you breathe in.  just see the tree.  in this sense, reality is a paradox.  it is something and that something we call it is true and at the same time, it is not that thing which we call it but it is its polarity.  good and evil, life and death, yin and yang, "i create my own reality" and "i am at the whim of fate".  both of these things ARE TRUE.  there is NO ARGUMENT!  the INTELLECT Cannot pass through a paradox.  mind is cirular and cannot understand oroboros.  heehee!!!  this is some fun shite! [8]  love ya'll!  lets talk about energetic 5th dimensional emotional mechanics!!! yeeehaaa!

[CRIMINALMIND63]

I got a question for anyone that can answer. Most mediations and visualization tell you to close your eyes to visual what you want. In my experience I have been able to visualize with my eyes open and to project this image in front of me. I have done this more since my attacker interfers with my visualization when my eyes are closed. I was onced told that most people close their eyes so they have a screen to project an image on. Does anyone know whether your eyes have to be closed or if they can also be opened too.

[arakara]

shadow dancer, I know exactly what your talking about. I also have noticed how just thinking certain thoughts seems to cause a "response" in the universe, and have been able to "cause" or prevent other things from happening simply by thinking about it. I personally don't view myself as a "new ager" because I developed my perspectives before I even knew what that term was. Now whats this 5th dimension energy mechanics you were talking about.

criminal mind, I think either method of visualization is good. In some cass its even better to be able to visualize with your eyes open. Though you don't want that to get carried away (funny story, I'll tell it later).

[Syke]

ok this thread grew under my raidar.... i skipped the larger posts as its awefully late here and i cant be stuffed...

arakara you said that next time im on a plane to know its going to crash and see what happens (and yes i know you dont mean it) but if i did do that then what if it did crash... nobody else on that plane would have control over their own lives.. and if it didnt then i wouldnt have control over my life...
then you could say that it would crash because they are a part of MY reality... well that would make you a part of MY reality too so you dont have control over ur life... the whole concept is ridiculous.

and if we are all part of YOUR reality then why would we be arguing with you.. and why would things that you dont like exist?

this subject is just stupid.. im not gonna check it anymore, no point.

-Syke

[arakara]

Well syke, its kind of hard for someone who hasn't actually tried it out to understand it. If you were on a plane that crashed, from the basic premise of "all individuals attract to themselves what they are conscious of" then I guess that means those other individuals, for whatever reason were also somehow attracted to that type of situation. Doesn't mean they thought about it 24/7, or sat up and watched plane crashes all night, might have been something as simple as seeing a plane flying by and asking "hmm, what if that planed crashed?, sure hope that doesn't happen to me.." Of course this is just an example, because we all have different threshholds for what types of beliefs or suggestions we will accept. Of course if you wanted to analyze that example you would see that the person is in a frame of mind condusive to spontaneously imaging negative scenarios & then putting themselves in the picture. The mind also doesn't recognize the word "don't" when applied to a scenario. For example if you just came home and your friend yelled "DON'T THINK OF PINK ELEPHANT!" You would automatically picture it. So by here thinking visualizing the scenario (during the 1st part of her question) and then saying "sure hope it doesn't happen to me", guess what message her subconscious mind (which generates the images) got - "sure hope it happen to me". I could also point out that asking yourself a question mentally (in your head) is a good way of finding the answer to something, especially if the question insinuates a certain scenario like above. This is actually one of the first ways I began reality-manifestation, though I had been doing it for a couple years before I consciously noticed (note: never, ever ask yourself a question insinuating a negative scenario). Well my point is, you are NOT the other person or people, you DON'T know what other people are thinking, believing, or attracting to themselves, so you can't say "since other people are involved it couldn't have been YCYOR." There's alot more to it, but I can't be typing all day here.


>and if we are all part of YOUR reality then why would we be arguing with you.. and why would things that you dont like exist?

Well, maybe I was looking for people not familiar with the YCYOR concept and wanted to participate in an energetic discussion ([:O]hmm, I was...) Also I didn't say I have it all down pat. Like all things its a discipline, and controlling your thoughts & beliefs to create desired outcomes in everyday circumstance is not always the easiest thing - though it makes life much, much easier[|)]


>the whole concept is ridiculous.

Well, I don't know what I would say if someone had told me the YCYOR concept before I became aware of it. When I did, just before college, the first book I read on the subject took me 2 months to read. Not because I'm a slow reader (I'm quite fast, actually) but because it looked like the author had stolen my entire perspective and made a book out it. I was as mad as I was shocked and excited. I had read a couple excerpts from in a muscle magazine and was interested in eerily similar it was to my own perspective. So if I had never read that magazine, I don't know when I would have been formally introduced to the subject. Still, that was not the first time that I thought of an idea or concept, only to see it already mass produced. In high school, I was motivated by those Invention Submission commercials and was always trying to think of new inventions, designs, or ideas, though I then see them displayed somewhere else - like on a store shelf, magazine, or some other place. I have now actually become able to "block" my ideas or inventions from being already "manifested" into the mass market (finally!) - I can't tell you how many times it seemed like someone was picking my brain and stealing my inventions (if I ever find that person I will put them in a coma[}:)]). I'm not going to go deeper into that subject because I know some of you have no idea what I'm talking about.

Inguma, well you say it does not include God, well I disagree. Why don't you read: Awakened Imagination/the Search by Neville.

>after a number of years trying to piece together the evidence for it, I had to drop it completely

What do you mean piece together evidence for it? Where you out in the lab, calculating the astronomical cosmic ratios or something? My first test to see if it worked was: "hmmm, if what whatever I believe to be true will be manifested, then why don't I just blindly believe I some money!" and I did, I kept telling myself I had money (was broke at the time) and guess what, eurkah[] I got some the next day. I didn't have car or computer, and no money to buy them (at the time) so I said: "hmmm, if what whatever I believe to be true will be manifested, then why don't I just blindly believe I have a car and computer!"  and guess what, eurkah[] within a month I had both (friends and family were pretty surprised, to say the least). I've done this same process, over and over with a variety of other things. I would not be in college right now if it not for this simple process. The hardest part is controlling your beliefs. It has to be a blind faith, not a hopefull assumption.
If you guys want me to respond back soon, post something before tomorrow evening, I'm leaving town for a business venture I manifested (literally)[]

[shadowdancer]

for syke, i think something that might help to elucidate the concept of YCYOR...take the plane crash for example.  let us say that a certain individual wishes to either prove or disprove the theory.  so they do in fact meditate upon images of death from above [xx(] and other planes=death media.  here is the kicker; reality is not CAUSE THUS EFFECT.  reality, in a, as arakara posted, has more of a "quantum" quality.  meaning that there is a precident of "non-local connectedness" that permeates all things.  this is illustrated in the matter=energy votices model in put forth in one of arakara's previous posts.  so just because an individual meditates upon the idea of death=planes, does not necessarily mean that the flow of reality and its holographic manifestation will be so tunnel-vision esque as to produce such limited and unimaginative manifestations as that person actually dying in a plane crash.  that person may actually find him or herself experiencing some form of samadhi, or oneness or spiritual insight about death in general, or the esoteric meaning of man's desire to fly and how that relates to death, or maybe the death of a loved one through a plane crash?  there are infinite permutations of possibility, not limited to a newtonian view of reality.

arakara, i have been looking into 5th dimensional mechanics.  ie-being able to move, act, communicate within the 5th dimensional vibratory rate of matter.(at least relative to us in current 3d).  from what i understand, the instantaneous response or creation of universal flow, is an attunement to the "4th" dimension, which is not really a separate dimension per se, but the astral realm maybe?  thoughts manifest relatively instantaneously and matter/time is extremely malleable.  to navigate within this dimension, accessing the vast potential of the human heart is, from my experience, the key.  what most people on this forum dont seem to see is that no matter how many "techniques" you learn or how "powerful with ki" [:O] you become, without joy in your heart and a passion for the human experience, many many doors remain locked.

[Rob]

Aho!

quote:Inguma, well you say it does not include God, well I disagree. Why don't you read: Awakened Imagination/the Search by Neville.

Because I have a LOT of other books I want to read first! Got ooh about 4 I am actively reading at the moment!
Now, let me guess, its argument is that God is a part of you? Or that the act of prayer is what is important?
Well, perhaps God is a part of you, but your higher self can still act independantly. And also, I have once had myself removed from a very very sticky situation that could quite easily have left me with serious physical injury, even killed me, but it would appear I was saved. I know another person who had this happen to him as a young child, totally inexplicable, totally spur of the moment and not prayed for. So it goes. I cannot put this into the popular model, but if that book can refute me - please explain!

quote:What do you mean piece together evidence for it? Where you out in the lab, calculating the astronomical cosmic ratios or something?

I try and only let myself believe in things if I have personal experience with them. Lol no cosmic ratios or anything, but looking back in hindsight and trying to fit cause and effect. In some cases my thoughts (even obsessively strong ones) have NOT fitted how reality turns out (kinda). Yes, they did draw things to me, but did not dictate how the future panned out. Basically, I cant find any link in my own experience, therefore I have to drop the model.

quote:My first test to see if it worked was: "hmmm, if what whatever I believe to be true will be manifested, then why don't I just blindly believe I some money!" and I did,

Very well, and hey thats quite cool. However! I do believe that you are taking your it too far. I never said that your mind cannot be used to manifest things around you - your experience shows it can, as does magick (which is essentially similar to what you are doing, only using sharper and more powerful tools). But its a huge jump to then conclude that everything around you is the creation of your own mind.
OK now, you have created things actively. Try this instead - pick random events after they have happened, and try and fit every single one of them to your own thoughts. Look at it in terms of probablities, not possibilities.

OK I'll give another example that, in my mind, disproves that negs are all mind creations. One night, totally out of the blue, I woke up at about 2-3 in the morning to see neg standing at the bottom of my bed. I thought it was my mum at first, but quickly realised that no, it wasn't. Heart starts racing a bit etc. After about 10 second it faded out, dematerialised and left (damnit! I should've hit the light switch and f****d it up!! lol oh well, maybe "next time"). I got up, turned on the lights, prayed, asked it to leave, prayed for it to be brought to the light should it be a disincarnate human spirit etc. After I still felt a presence, asked it to leave again, started doing (weak, I'm not very good) banishing rituals and etc etc. Blessed the room. Went and slept in another room.
Before that point, my Dad had been having a bad nights sleep. Waking up a lot, restless, etc. After I had seen it and annoyed it (got some telepathic signals back from it, not a happy bunny I can tell you, stuff like "F**k you God! F**k your God!" - angry evil tone), he had a REALLY bad nights sleep. Nightmares - including - the only one he really remembered (at least would tell me about) - one in which I became possessed (in his dream). - Note this is not unusual, whenever I do stuff to disrupt this things connection to me, the effect has to travel first through my Dad (think lines of force, from me, through him, to neg).
For the next couple of weeks, I was preeeetty scared I can tell you, at night time. That is, of the dark, always looking out in the pitch black room, seeing if it was there etc. But, no signs of it, nothing.

- First, what about the effect on my Dad? He had NO idea what was going on to me. Lol he nearly got up at one point to go sleep in the room I had moved to, damn! That would've freaked me out big time. Anyway the point is, he had effects - due to a neg, and indirectly due to me, that were not of his making in the least. Besides, he thinks all this is a load of garbage (the willfully blind...). Perhaps you can say "wheels within wheels, the whole universe fitting together, so that one persons effect slots perfectly into another persons reality" but I think that, if thats the case, then no human mind could percieve it anyway, so all we have to go by in channeled info which IMO is bunk - negs in angels clothing. However.....:
- Second, the neg showed once out the blue with no real thought of it on my part, but then did not show up again when, if the YCYOR model is correct, it should have done - ie when I was thinking about it a LOT.

And, I would like to repeat about RB's article - 9 month old babies coming under a demonic assault. Similarly, when I was 5, I came under pretty major psychic attack, and what hit me - I can assure you - did NOT come from me, or from the depths of my own subconscious mind, or anything like that. I was pure and innocent, what was shot at me was terrifying and awful. Ach. Inexplicable in the 100% YCYOR reality

Hope you get this in time!

Rob

ps CM why, and please reply you have me really curious, are you still ignoring me? Did I do something to evoke your anger?? Confused boy here seeks answer.....

pps Shadowdancer - WOW - great post man! I really should get round to reading this whole thread.....hmm......

[CRIMINALMIND63]

I'm sorry Inguma, i didn't mean to ignore you I just thought you where following the post. For how I'm doing. I'm still here breathing. Physically ok now. Was strucking in the throat with a zap of bad energy. Ended up with a sinus problems and chest cold. Not to long ago I had an absess tooth due to the energy sent to me on the left side of my face. I'm out of work once again due to magic.
Still looking for answers. I come back to see if some of the other people that was getting attacked is here. I was hoping to maybe give them some information to help them and see if they wanted to jion a group doing research to find a solution. Thank you very much for asking.

[arakara]

Aaah, reading shadow dancer's post is like a breash of fresh air. Actually, shadow dancer I am working on my own book about the subject, though I can't get into the details now. I have more to say, but have to go. TTYL[]

Inguma, tell me, what other books are you reading. Are they from the 10 free ebooks link I posted in this forum?

>Try this instead - pick random events after they have happened, and try and fit every single one of them to your own thoughts.

Thats how I became aware of the process! I've even seen how thoughts can interact with political events - this is one of the main areas I'm researching now.

>I was hoping to maybe give them some information to help them and see if they wanted to jion a group doing research to find a solution.

Trying to start a group to find the solution to psychic attack is like trying to start research team find the solution to dry throats. Just drink the d@mn water! Its really simple. Strengthen your aura, build it into a protective shield, utilize the YCYOR model, and attenuate yourself with a higher source. Voila! No more dry throat.

[arakara]

Inguma, I also have been awoken by a strange presence in my room. My experience was quite different from yours though. I was visualizing myself in the universe, imagining that all the space and matter in it, including my body, was permeating with energy. I then imagined that I was this energy, and then thought from the perspective that I was the "creative intelligence". Suddenly I was in the air down past the foot of my bed (w/ my body still in bed), and my with my body surrounded by this kind of red tint. I experienced the most utterly intense euphoric feeling I had ever experienced - thoughout my entire body - At the same time I heard the word "good" seeming to be coming from all the cells in my body. You know how when you think, you perceive as originating in your head, well it felt like every cell in my body "thinking" at the same time, saying [^]"good"[^]. At the same time I felt another presence in my room, parallel to me, but toward the floor. It seemed like a redish type glow or something. All this seemed to happen for only an instant because I was jolted right back into my body by the intensity of sensations I felt.
I have had several other experiences where I experienced these sensations of bliss - the most recent being this past August.

[Metal Ice]

Arakira,


You must be the second coming of something.
Obviously, you could be a psy. vamp
probably are.

[shadowdancer]

metal ice, what you have said, i feel, is an example of an attack on someones character.  it would make just as much sense if someone called you some other ridiculous name or label.  it has NO PLACE HERE.  Please post with the respect that you would have others accord to you.  Live by the sword, die by it.  its a metaphor.....[]

[arakara]

Wow Metal Ice, your on a roll. Of all the amazing incitefull posts you've added to this thread, the last one is by far the most brilliant. I mean, the second coming? Simply, WoW. Your depth boggles the mind.

>metal ice, what you have said, i feel, is an example of an attack on someones character.

I don't think character is the only thing this guy attacks. I have some important advice for other members of this forum. DO NOT accept the limiting, negative, disempowering beliefs, suggestions, insinuations, hints, or affirmations that some of the other members on this board (like dark knight & metal ice) spout. If you do, then you can kiss your butt goodbye because listening and accepting the comments & suggestions they give will make you PRONE to psychic attacks.

Let me put it this way, if I were an psychic vampire that enjoyed finding victims to attack, I would go to a forum just like this.. and say all the things that dark knight & his partner in crime, metal ice is saying. I'm not saying that what he's doing, its just, if I wanted to break down all the mental walls I could before waging a psychic attack, I would say exactly what dark knight/metal ice is saying. Get yourself believing what he does, and its practically impossible NOT have some bad psychic attacks happen.


I was browsing through this thread and I came across some incredibly incitefull posts by Metal Ice. Here are some of the honorable mentions, with the 2nd and 1st place winners at the end:

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Those that have experienced Psychic attacks are used to & pretty sick
& tired of the old "if you believe it to happen, it will" game.
I never believed what happened to me would happen, & it did. Blaming the victim is easy, understanding is not.
Psychic Attack is pretty horrible. Yes, you can overcome it. I recently have, but unless you've been there, you really don't know.
As for blaming 911 for happening to make us more compassionate?
Are you serious? I think some of this new age stuff has reached levels of insanity. Some of the ridiculous stuff new age people said to me, & they were so wrong.
Constant attacks make you weak for more attacks. Somehow, you gain a little ground & slowly , very slowly, but surely get free of it. Each situation takes different amounts of time to overcome. And it is one of the hardest things to go through. It's a nasty mind trip that some people
don't know how to fight. Does'nt make them losers, or wishing it to happen. Living with & overcoming Psychic attack is one of the toughest things to do. You have to be very brave person to live through it.
There was acult once that tried to tell people that they created everything that happened to them. Now, new age people are spouting such ridiculousness. It's a cult & I refuse to listen to any of it.
That cult I know of caused many of it's members to become mentally ill
& now we're trying to explain 911 that way.
Here's my take: A bunch of foreingers got angry with us & wanted to hurt us. End of story.

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Arakara,
hopefully some of those things help someone, but did not work (most of them) on my vampire problem. I just had to move farther away from him
to make things better. Getting your mind on your own life again helps tremendously. But, first you have to gain ground slowly but surely. That's the hard part

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The second place award goes the post below for its incredible candor and linguistic expressiveness. Here it is:

*****
You belong to a cult then. Very Scary. And Your know it all attitude is a bit much. You choose to believe what you want.
No one choses a path in life. Sometimes things happen. As far as you calling me a degenerate, you don't know me & seem very angry & smug
in your judgement of people.
Pull up all the quotes you want. That's how you make yourself feel superior to anyone else. You are in a cult.
*****

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And the winner post on this thread for expressing the greatest amount of depth, incite, knowledge, and pure intelligence goes to Metal Ice! View this amazing winning post below:


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Arakira,


You must be the second coming of something.
Obviously, you could be a psy. vamp
probably are.
[^][^][^]

I think that last one speaks for itself. wow.

[arakara]

Seriously, I am getting the feeling that certain members are using this forum to attract victims for various types of psychic attacks. This is a very serious issue. What do you think of this?

[Rob]

LOL!!!!! Well, you make my job easier [] ehehe
Your experience, wow yeah, that made me smile...

Books I am reading at the moment - no, no free e-books (didn't read your post there, so probably not reading any of them anyway!). OK listed in order of amount of time I am spending with them:
"The Tao of Physics" - Fritjof Capra
"Meditation" - Kamalashila
"The Mystical Qabalah" - Dion Fortune (finally got it back of my mate after about a year with it in absence ggrr)
"Why Therapy Doesn't Work - and what we should do about it" - David Smail
also some randoms in various states of read-ness like "Excalibur Briefing" by Tom Bearden, "The Teachings of Don Carlos" by Victor Sanches, err probably some others []
Oh yeah and I am SLOWLY doing The Kybalion. I little mouse bites.
Quite a mix then!

"Voila! No more dry throat" - aaahhh, I dont think its quite that easy my man.......full exorcisms sound like pretty hefty affairs.
You nees to remember the depth - psychologically and energetically - of the connections these things create to your. They leave control mechanisms deeeep in your subconscious mind. They are STRONG, and won't give out without a fight.....

CM - damn, I was hoping to hear you had made some good progress []. Did you get very far with the egyptian stuff?? More importantly - did you manage to enlist any heavy duty help - Nita, Romero, etc?? Phew, you are gonna be one tough cookie when this is through.......anyway, I'll pray for you, for what its worth.....

laters guys

Rob