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« on: December 12, 2002, 19:10:33 »

wow. i'm surprised i missed this thread. especially since my name is right in the topic name.

well, sorry to disappoint you, but i don't believe everyone who says just anything, even if what they are saying somehow backs me up.

as to whether i changed the weather or not, only true experimentation will tell.

on an interesting and possibly relevant side note: calgary (the city i am living in right now) has only seen a few days of snow this winter so far and the temperatures have been staying at a(n almost) constant 10 Celcius high and about 1celcius low. this year, as opposed to almost every other year of my life, i REALLY don't want it to get cold. i am not actively trying to keep the temperature up, but i do find this to be rather strange. especially with the last amount of precipitation we got was the day after i started thinking that we should have a bit of rain. it started raining and then turned into snow on the second day of the precipitation. then it stopped after the third day of light precipitation.

kinda coincidental, no?  Smiley

now, before any one replies, i am not claiming that i am behind this, but is it truly impossible that someone couldn't? especially with all the other things people are claiming to be able to do (like astral projection, use psi, use energy, etc)?   Tongue

chew it over for a while.

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2002, 02:16:58 »

Hi Kakkarot

If we do not totally believe in our ability when it comes to the metaphysical and magic then everything is for nothing and you are just someone else who studies the occult. The step you take when you create total faith in yourself and the knowing that you can do something that other humans deem impossible is in fact not really that difficult when generations of others have done the same before you, and created paths and examples you can follow.

But when we believe that we are capable of something even societies most open minded scoff at, itís a lot harder to take that plunge of personal belief. Yes it may be downright impossible, and in believing you can change the weather you might be branded Ďinsaneí. But as you say it is no more out-there than for example me saying I can create an artificial entity called a thought form to do my magical bidding on some intangible astral plane Ė using the power of my mind! The difference is there are thousands of people just like me who know they can do the same, which makes it easier to commit my self belief. When we are trying something without the same social support we are inclined to look at what we are doing as an experiment, and question ourselves as to if it is really working. But in doing so we are lacking self belief, which of course is totally essential to success (But there is a loophole to be found). Itís a psychological risk to go out on your own like you are, but I would say you most probably have the right mind set to do it and not get burned, I doubt your faith in your ability is easily wavered.          

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2002, 02:16:58 »

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2002, 05:06:09 »

4 months to get a reply! that must be a record.

But did you check out HAARP?

"The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plane?Huh?"

 
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2002, 06:28:36 »

Hello all,
After reading this post about HAARP, i feel i should tell you all about an article i found on :   the view zone.  Just under the heading on the main page, there is an article by Dan Eden.  It will amaze and frighten you.  It is a very long article, but extremely worth the read.  I stayed up all night reading it.
 It is hard to accept that people or governments are so callous and uncaring that they could experiment like this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2002, 14:48:46 »

Hey, fenris, and all.

Something that I have learned through personal experience is that your conscious mind does not really have to believe it is possible, as long as your subconscious knows it can be done. There are many people out there that are performing "magick", and wouldn't believe they have ever cast a spell.

So, is kakkarot influencing the weather?

Only he knows, but probably could not answer without some meditation. BTW weather manipulation is not REALLY uncommon (without going to any websites).

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2002, 23:13:45 »

Truth to tell me and my friends used to do that alot. Whenever it rainned it would barely hit me, and whenever my friend didn't want it to be windy it was a very windy day. We've caused rain and such a few times as well. My friends didn't like that they'd be the only ones getting soaked during rainy days though.


 
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2002, 08:14:43 »

Hi ya Ides

You have made a very important point, perhaps it would be more accurate than to put it that the potency and effectiveness of an intended magical ( yes there could be a better word ) act is increased greatly by ones belief in their ability to perform it Ė as this aids the would be magic worker to concentrate fully on the task, and to focus their will. However the same system used to perform an intended magical change in reality is available to and used constantly to SOME extent by every human mind. Do you think this could be expanded on at all? I love discussing the mechanics of magic, I hope there is a day when its workings are as just as scientifically understood in mainstream society as gravity. But for now it is up to those who seek the unknown to experiment with it, learn what our peers and those in the past have found, and discuss our findings.

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2002, 20:11:57 »

alchimeste: nope never went to the site. don't much care to, though either. oh well.

fenris: my faith in what i KNOW i can do is nearly impossible to make waver, but unless i KNOW that i can do something, then i always treat a situation as i possibly did it. that way i'm not fooling myself into believing that i am responsible for things that i might not be responisible for. belief may help focus ones attention and ability to force "things" to happen, but misplaced belief can cause psychological insanity. after all, one must have the power to be able to do something as well as (usually) believe it can be done in order to do something.

if i wished real hard that the world was going to be destroyed tomorrow, would it be? probably not. i don't have access to the power neccessary to do that. hence the need for learning and training: to become more powerful and to understand how to use (and when not to use) that power.

interesting to note: still no snow, even with quite a few ominous clouds passing by the city. but i'm betting that when i leave this friday to go home to Medicine Hat, this city is going to go through quite the snowstorm (no forecast as of yet to compare my prediction to). the almanac says that the normal high is -1Celcius and the low is -10Celcius for calgary today, while the forecast if +8Celcius and -3Celcius respectively (according to the weather page at www.calgarysun.com ).

now only time will tell.  Smiley

dovelady: unfortunately, i have heard many stories about what governments are willing to do to humans. even the american government. 'tis truly sad.

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2002, 21:03:47 »

Hey, Fenris

My post got zapped.

To me the secret seems to be in integrating all of your mind. The subconscious can do a lot, but it can do more if you are in control of it. Once your subconscious and your innerself are fully connected to the conscious mind, access to the higher self, and a lot more is immediately possible. My theory, anyway. Have you included Franz Bardon in your studies?

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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2002, 20:16:37 »

well, dang. looking out the window of the school i can see snow falling on the mountains some 500km west of calgary. that means that they will be coming to calgary (west winds). now, if they DO hit calgary, but DON'T hit the northeast of calgary (where i live) then i am going to conclude that i am indeed behind the messed up weather here, otherwise i will conclude that i am not. if they don't hit calgary at all, then looks like i'm still stuck guessing.

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2002, 02:14:02 »

Hi Ides

My reply also got zapped, but hey if that is  the biggest stress I have to deal with all day I cant complain. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

I started studying and practicing Wicca in my early teens, but it was only about a year or so ago that I decided to switch to ceremonial magic, so Iím not hugely well read yet. At the moment Iím working through Kraigís Modern Magick, and I have Regardieís A garden of Pomegranates and Leviís Transcendental Magic waiting when I finish. To be honest I donít know much about Bardon at all, do you recommend I include his work in my studies? From what Iíve found just now ĎInitiation into Hermeticsí seems to be the first book he published.

I am practicing the Middle Pillar Ritual, although the concept being bringing divinity into my lower selves, could it also be said that I am bringing my ego and my subconchous together?  I mean are we really connecting to our higher self or our inner self.

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2002, 07:07:23 »

Fenris,
"I am practicing the Middle Pillar Ritual, although the concept being bringing divinity into my lower selves, could it also be said that I am bringing my ego and my subconchous together? I mean are we really connecting to our higher self or our inner self."

Please check out my posts on the "attacked on the astral plane" thread by Mathias Johnsson in this section. It explains what the MPR actually can do to you and it is not what you think!!!

Kakkarot;
"alchimeste: nope never went to the site. don't much care to, though either. oh well."

Information is knowledge, even if it is the wrong information, it lets you make choices, to know right from wrong, to decide by using the maximum amount of data. If you don't want to visit the site then thats up to you but to flipantly disregard it by your throw away, ego loaded comments is to say the least rude and disrespectful.

The most important quality to aquire on any spiritual, magical or other road is to be and remain humble...........you have a long way to go my friend.

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2002, 17:24:33 »

Hey, Fenris

Check out what alchimiste said, it is worthwhile.

I have Modern Magick also, and think DMK did a nice job of getting someone rolling on a ceremonial path, and was wise enough to recomend that one expanded there search way past his writings. He stresses that a lot. I made it through several chapters of MM, before life distracted me. It still left me wanting something, it was not complete to me. IIH by Bardon is the first in four writings, and is the starting place. You can find a detail on this book at www.abardoncompanion.com, along with other good info on Bardon, his works, and the heremteic path in general.

Bardon's works would be the most recomended books I have read to date. and think IIH (Initiation into Hermetics) would be a excellent addition for you.

As far as inner self, your inner self is the real you, with the ego pushed aside, and all of the assumptions about how you should "be" ignored. Most all of the connections to the divine are through your higher self. (My thoughts anyway, comments welcome, though at this level it is more of a figure it out on your own thing.)

 
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2002, 04:30:05 »

Thanks very much Ides http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

I think I will deffinately take your advice on Bardon, the site also has mp3's that can be downloaded about how to vibrate words, Ive never heard another person do it before so its very useful , and thankyou for your personal answers to my questions.

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2002, 19:06:02 »

i didn't mean to offend you alchimiste. i'm sorry. so if it makes you not so angry i'll go visit the sites, ok?.

weather update: still no snow. the snowstorm yesterday (or was it the day before? i forgot.) missed calgary. and there is no snow in the forecast. i am planning on forcing a huge snowstorm blizzard for the day after i leave, just to see if i can... ya know, to make it more christmassy and all. but then i keep thinking of all the people who will have to endure with that horrible horrible weather, and it makes me question my self: should i or shouldn't i?  Smiley

one the one hand, it would be fun causing that much chaos, but then people get hurt with snow on the roads. it would make it more christmas-like, but maybe a bit too much so with a few feet of snow.   Smiley so what do i do?

any one wanna give me good reasons why to try or not to try?

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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2002, 19:26:13 »

ok alchimiste, i've been to http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/ and http://www.haarp.net/.

the official haarp site claims that it is just looking for better communication.
the haarp.net site claims the gov would be using it for military purposes.

the haarp.net site quotes a lot of things that are supposedly from military and government documents and other sources, but cites absolutely nothing. this leads me to believe that they are just a bunch of wankers who have to have something to whine about and this is it. their site sounds just like every other "conspiracy" page out there:
(anywhere there is a slash, choose one option) "the gov/mil is developing such-and-such. they say they are using it for this, but they are lying to us and are actually using it to destroy us. they have been blatently lying to us, blah blah blah. they have been doing it for 40/50/150 years without us knowing so it has to be bad. we must stop them and hold them accountable blah blah blah. these official mil/gov documents/people declare that i am right (but i'm not gonna cite anything cause i'm actually just making it all up). mil/gov=bad."

and that is their entire site. this is why i don't bother going to such places, cause there is nothing to learn. i was not, and am not, insulting you alchimiste, or trying to be rude or disrespectful. i just don't go to biased sites when i am trying to learn things.

i sometimes think that is has never occured to such people as the ones running the haarp.net site that the military could actually want to develop something OTHER than weapons. after all, a good strategist knows that communication among troops is a huge key to winning wars by anticipating the enemy, curtailing the unexpected, and acting in a unified front. why WOULDN'T the military want to have better communication.

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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2002, 07:38:55 »

Kakkarot,
 What you think of the site is of no concern to me, but what interests me is to push you to open up your way of thinking, to realise that most info on the internet is rubbish or trafficked( although you probably know that already). It is of prime importance to see both sides of the story to sort the information relavent to your own evolution.
I read a lot of your posts and can tell you are looking for a test, your desire to fight, to flex your energetic muscles is overwhelming but as the chinese say "Be careful what you wish for..........you just might get it" The test will come for you that will shock you out of your head, it wont come from outside but from the Guardian de Seuil (Guardian of the threshold) that I keep going on about in other threads. Your headstrong attitude is making him stronger and when he comes you won't be able to Ki, Chi or whatever his butt. Your evolution isn't like one of your dungeons and dragons games it's a subtle balance of things that can't be manipulated like a game console but with your conscience. Raise your conscience Kakkarot, look beyond your ego. The raising of consciousness is the key to controlling your internal energy so you may manipulate the exterior enrgy.
At the moment your energys and your conscience are in your third energy centre, solar plexus, the centre of Power. It gives you a rush but it's time to move on out and up to the heart centre, the centre of unconditional love.
Evolution like this means letting go, to get through the gateway to the next level you must carry nothing, nothing at all and that means leaving your powers etc behind!
These gateways are infact cracks or holes in space/time and to get through them is like going through a dimensional shift to a higher vibrational level so you must leave behind all that can'tresonate at the higher octave. So you see in reality you must let go of EVERYTHING in order to squeeze through.
If you like reading then get Ken Keyes 'a manuel for a superior conscience' as it gives the best description on this process I've ever seen.

It's time to get moving Kakkarot

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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2002, 19:40:44 »

ha ha alchimiste! you think i am a child or something?! ha! i have gone far beyond what you are saying i need to do. the unconditional love i show and have been able to do for years. my ego has already been put in its place. and if said inner guadian comes my way looking for trouble then i am more than prepared (and desiring) to meet him head on and work out what i need to. and i don't rely on my powers like you seem to portray me to do. my quick thinking and brilliant mind are my two most deadly weapons. my ability to adapt allow me to gain the upper hand in anything i wish to. my willpower is too great for normal people to even stand against. i'm not some newbie moron. i have my power due to the trials i have lived through, lived through without my powers. i know that life is about more than just things, or abilities, or stupid things like that. i have gone beyond what you believe i have to a point which you have yet to reach. and that all happened back when i was just a teenager!

don't worry about me alchimiste. my heart is in the right place, as is my mind. i know where i am going in life (well, i know the general stuff, but not many of the details), and i already have developed the basics for what i will really learn in my time to come. the reason i want to flex my energetic muscles because i am sick of being stuck at the level of power i am at. i wish to go further, but i cannot because i have other things to learn and do.

as for the games, come on! i know the difference between games and the real world. i don't need to be chastised like a little toddler.

i really do appreciate your concern alchimiste, but what you percieve of me is only what i let the people of this board percieve of me. it is not my true self, nor my truest troubles and dilemmas. there are others on this board though who could use such guidance and help. please help them.

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2002, 01:05:28 »

Hello Everyone
   I have been reading the discussion with interest. I have heard about HAARP and met the person who started talking about it. It may have changed the weather but about a million other things have added to the problems.
   Bardon gives a alternate method to removing negative traits by using soul mirrors. You list all the qualities you have and which elements they are ruled by and your put the negative in one soul mirror and the positive in the other soul mirror. You then work upon changing the negative to the positive.He lists various methods but it seems to remove a lof ot the work needing to be done on the Watcher at the Threshold. It is a very well integrated system.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2002, 06:45:50 »

Kakkarot,
"ha ha alchimiste! you think i am a child or something?! "

Now you have just proved that you are a child. You are a long way from even understanding the concept of unconditional love let alone knowing how to raise your conscience to exist in that level or the levels above.

"i have gone beyond what you believe i have to a point which you have yet to reach"
Yes, you are at a point that I have yet to reach. But I have no desire to reach that point, the idea of power you have is all an illusion, a veil that has been pulled over your eyes to keep you from accessing the split in space/time that could take you forwards. You are a prisoner of your Guardian de Seuil and the sooner you realise this the better.
I have left many powers behind me on my journey as I realised that power in itself prevents evolution, you must let go of everything or you will remain at your present evolutory level.

If you had actually evolved your Guardian would most likely have shown itself already, this fact alone shows you are under his control.

Wake up and smell the coffee Oh Grand Master Kakkarot

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2002, 09:19:06 »

Hi ya Nita!

In Kraigís Modern Magick there is a technique for banishing negative personal traits called the I.O.B (Identify, Objectify and Banish) which to my understanding is a process of constructing a thought form representing the negative quality and then banishing/destroying it. If Bardonís system works on converting negative qualities to positive ones, as opposed to just banishing them, then this surely must lead to greater self understanding then the former. In which of his books would could I read about it? Iím very keen about studying Bardon now http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2002, 22:55:36 »

Hi, David.

It is in IIH.

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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2002, 01:20:55 »

Hello David and Ides
   Ides is right it is in IIH. Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bardon. He has four books but the first one with all the steps has to to be done before you go onto the rest. Merkur Books was having a half price sale for awhile I don't know if it is still on at the moment.
   It is a powerful tool for transforming yourself and furthering your abilities and understanding. Alchimistes knowledge has impressed me and I've enjoyed a lot of the subjects mentioned.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2002, 11:59:06 »

Oh mighty Kakkarot,

"the reason i want to flex my energetic muscles because i am sick of being stuck at the level of power i am at. i wish to go further, but i cannot because i have other things to learn and do."

The reason you are stuck is that your suitcase is full, there is no more room to put anything else. You are at the point of saturation and you must let it all go to evolve through the crack that leads to the next octave. You wish to go further? well here is your chance, drop the suitcase and raise your conscience. Once through you will see that all your powers at the lower level were all an illusion and you'll laugh at yourself for relying on them for so long.
Once through to the higher octave you will have nothing in your suitcase but you will infact be ten times or even a hundred times more powerful than before, but these powers will be integrated into your conscience to be called upon if needed, but believe me when I say to you that once through to the higher octave you will no longer need them nor will you desire to use them as you will see power for what it truly is.......a veil pulled over your eyes to keep you from evolving.

Or you could go off to Winged Wolfs' psionic group for some mutual psionic masturbation and energy orgasms that will make you think you are the greatest but at the best will lead you nowhere or at the worst you will lose your soul.

go for it!..........it's your funeral.

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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2002, 12:16:12 »

Oh my most venerated and powerful Kakkarot,

ps: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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