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Trepkos

I've developed the ability to see in the astral while awake during the years. I see spirits and they show me symbols. I know that these entities represent neurological processes i.e. states. But i believe there's more to it. Most spirits i encounter are of a positive nature, but most of them tell me to shut up when it comes to expressing my experiences. I was wondering what the importance of silence is. I know it's very important but i'm having trouble to shut up when talking to my psychologist. I explain to her the facts about causing neurological change by combining these perceived symbols, but the twat tells me that this cannot be accomplished. What i just typed here presupposes the idea that the spirits just want me to shut up to the psychologist. But i remember a time when these signs of silence were conveyed to me before i even talked to a psychologist. What is the importance of silence? I know that words can have occult effects, and i experienced negativity when expressing my experiences, but i don't know if these effects are related to my expressions. I just asked one of the spirits why i have to shut up and they showed me a thermometer. What's the significance? Temperature? Energy?

Kzaal

Those who are quiet value the words.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

FuzzyQuills

Interesting post. Definitely odd that they pulled out a therometer, but then again, the level the thing was at probably explains something.
This world's Captain Falcon; A title I will pass down to a chosen one when I leave this dimension.

Trepkos

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Quote from: Kzaal on August 25, 2015, 14:21:31
Those who are quiet value the words.

Don't get me wrong. I am an introverted type and i wished i was more open to the world. I did some magick regarding this and i couldn't stop talking to my psychologist. Usually i"m very quiet. But i think i didn't channel the energy so well, like, talk to others but don't speak about the spiritual experiences. However, i'm learning.

Quote from: FuzzyQuills on August 26, 2015, 02:15:04
Interesting post. Definitely odd that they pulled out a therometer, but then again, the level the thing was at probably explains something.

I didn't differentiate my vision further. I only saw the glass part i.e. a very small "tube" positioned vertically and a little sphere on the bottom. I knew it was thermometer, but there wasn't a scale present and i didn't see any mercury in it. 

Kzaal

Quote from: Trepkos on August 26, 2015, 09:28:29
Don't get me wrong. I am an introverted type and i wished i was more open to the world. I did some magick regarding this and i couldn't stop talking to my psychologist. Usually i"m very quiet. But i think i didn't channel the energy so well, like, talk to others but don't speak about the spiritual experiences. However, i'm learning.

I didn't differentiate my vision further. I only saw the glass part i.e. a very small "tube" positioned vertically and a little sphere on the bottom. I knew it was thermometer, but there wasn't a scale present and i didn't see any mercury in it. 

It's normal, not many people like to talk about their spiritual experience in real life either.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Trepkos

Quote from: Kzaal on August 26, 2015, 13:11:52
It's normal, not many people like to talk about their spiritual experience in real life either.

Why do you think this is?

Kzaal

Quote from: Trepkos on August 26, 2015, 13:35:48
Why do you think this is?

Because most people think they're cray cray.
lol.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Rakkso

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Quote from: Trepkos on August 25, 2015, 13:45:50
I just asked one of the spirits why i have to shut up and they showed me a thermometer. What's the significance? Temperature? Energy?

Temperature is fundamentally energy, (No I dont mean to sound clever :-D) energy goes up and goes down, expands-contracts, goes right then left, it doesnt eternally stays up, and it doesnt eternally stays down. Should have a mid point for things to happen.


Quote from: Kzaal on August 26, 2015, 13:11:52
It's normal, not many people like to talk about their spiritual experience in real life either.
Quote from: Trepkos on August 26, 2015, 13:35:48
Why do you think this is?
People would think I'm creizy  :-P
They have that: "most people who read the bible or dreams to much end up nuts" in their heads. lol
Not their fault.

I don't want to bad-influence or something, but Vodka always gave me a good time around people I wasn't interested in talking to.
Now I need not one or the other.
But just in case, never failed me. lol

Kzaal

Quote from: Rakkso on August 27, 2015, 21:50:51
Temperature is fundamentally energy, (No I dont mean to sound clever :-D) energy goes up and goes down, expands-contracts, goes right then left, it doesnt eternally stays up, and it doesnt eternally stays down. Should have a mid point for things to happen.

People would think I'm creizy  :-P
They have that: "most people who read the bible or dreams to much end up nuts" in their heads. lol
Not their fault.

I don't want to bad-influence or something, but Vodka always gave me a good time around people I wasn't interested in talking to.
Now I need not one or the other.
But just in case, never failed me. lol

Exactly LOL
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Trepkos

Quote from: Rakkso on August 27, 2015, 21:50:51
Temperature is fundamentally energy, (No I dont mean to sound clever :-D) energy goes up and goes down, expands-contracts, goes right then left, it doesnt eternally stays up, and it doesnt eternally stays down. Should have a mid point for things to happen.

Mid-point yeah. This reminds me of a state of equilibrium. As far as i know, human beings are open systems and they never reach a state of equilibrium. They constantly exchange energy with their environment. I guess one just HAS to conform to established rules...I don't know if i could do this.

Quote from: Rakkso on August 27, 2015, 21:50:51People would think I'm creizy  :-P
They have that: "most people who read the bible or dreams to much end up nuts" in their heads. lol
Not their fault.
No it's definintely not their fault. It is the nature of the system. One could say: everything depends on interpretation of facts, but this idea comes from the system. It is as if the system provides ideas to feel stable, while paradoxically disintegrating itself. Because if one is feeling stable, then growth on the inside or the outside cannot be. Or this feeling of stability is just an illusion, in that the system can extract and insert information out/in of our minds. The world is doomed.

Quote from: Rakkso on August 27, 2015, 21:50:51I don't want to bad-influence or something, but Vodka always gave me a good time around people I wasn't interested in talking to.
Now I need not one or the other.
But just in case, never failed me. lol
:-D

Rakkso

Quote from: Trepkos on August 28, 2015, 10:14:14
Mid-point yeah. This reminds me of a state of equilibrium. As far as i know, human beings are open systems and they never reach a state of equilibrium. They constantly exchange energy with their environment. I guess one just HAS to conform to established rules...I don't know if i could do this.

Yes, human beings are open systems, but if they woulnd't be in equilibrium they would collapse/disperse, they work because the flux between both extremes of energies is constant, they wont function or run otherwise. The thing is, in whatever scale you find yourself in, you are always working properly, and if you are aware of this, you can do something to go to your more preffered state, simply being another state of equilibrium, wich can be more or less dark or light depending on your mood. The thing is, You control yourself, and choose where to go on the scale or where to remain.
And of course, I we were screaming all our thoughts out there negative things would happen so i believe just say whats positive and take control of fear before something happens.

Quote from: Trepkos on August 28, 2015, 10:14:14
No it's definintely not their fault. It is the nature of the system. One could say: everything depends on interpretation of facts, but this idea comes from the system. It is as if the system provides ideas to feel stable, while paradoxically disintegrating itself. Because if one is feeling stable, then growth on the inside or the outside cannot be. Or this feeling of stability is just an illusion, in that the system can extract and insert information out/in of our minds. The world is doomed.
:-D

I agree with this lol. I guess you just have to keep your wits above you at all times. Trying not to loose it with all the doomporn too, etc.
Sorry for the late answer, had not checked, my fault.


dpk38

A piece of advice, don't ask others for the meaning behind any of your visions. This is because each of us interpret them in a different way. They are based on personal knowledge and experiences and beliefs. In the end you'll end up receiving something which was not actually intended to be conveyed no matter how right, sensible,meaningful it sounded. The visions were supposed to be decoded by you. No matter how crazy it seems. Because by thinking over, you'll end up with the exact answer you were supposed to receive.
The answer to all questions is earnest self enquiry, "Who am I?"

Trepkos

Quote from: dpk38 on September 12, 2015, 08:51:39
A piece of advice, don't ask others for the meaning behind any of your visions. This is because each of us interpret them in a different way. They are based on personal knowledge and experiences and beliefs. In the end you'll end up receiving something which was not actually intended to be conveyed no matter how right, sensible,meaningful it sounded. The visions were supposed to be decoded by you. No matter how crazy it seems. Because by thinking over, you'll end up with the exact answer you were supposed to receive.

I agree with you in that i should decipher the symbol myself, but i may miss some general information, and by thinking over this type of information, i may come to exactness myself. But i understand you; in the end I asked for the significance. I should've asked for some thoughts of others.