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« on: April 21, 2006, 20:39:42 »

Yesterday I used an audio meditation that brings your brainwaves to the right frequencies of Astral Projection. I imagined something sucking my soul out of my body. Then I started to twitch like crazy and my physical body was moving upwards, all tense. My thighs were vibrating and so did some of my upper body. I was starting to get emotional (because my sacral/spleen chakra was opening) and I was starting to get sexually excited. Then I ejaculated  shocked . That freaked me out. Is this normal for a 16 year old male? Also why was my body all tense and moving upward? Could I be doing it wrong?

I know that sacral/spleen chakra controls emotions and sexuality and that when you AP it opens all your chakras. What should I do?
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2006, 03:37:47 »

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Yesterday I used an audio meditation that brings your brainwaves to the right frequencies of Astral Projection. I imagined something sucking my soul out of my body. Then I started to twitch like crazy and my physical body was moving upwards, all tense. My thighs were vibrating and so did some of my upper body. I was starting to get emotional (because my sacral/spleen chakra was opening) and I was starting to get sexually excited. Then I ejaculated  shocked . That freaked me out. Is this normal for a 16 year old male? Also why was my body all tense and moving upward? Could I be doing it wrong?

I know that sacral/spleen chakra controls emotions and sexuality and that when you AP it opens all your chakras. What should I do?


The ejaculation sounds pretty normal for any 16 year old guy  cheesy im not certain on the rest of your experience other than it sounds rather interesting and that some thing has happened here.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2006, 06:07:28 »

Thanks!

I've been researching and I've found out that the basic idea behind astral projection is to get your consciousness 100% out of your body. To think about something else and to forget about your physical body. We use audio meditations in aid to induce relaxation so that we could completely forget our physical body. It helps out if our body is numb or paralyzed because that's when we can easily focus on something else. Is this the whole philosophy of APing? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2006, 07:22:16 »

The first time I got close to projecting or so I thought, I was sexually aroused.     I believe this has something to do with the location of one of  the Chakra's.  I still have not yet projected yet.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2006, 01:15:05 »

Hey little man,

Aight, this is straight up pre-ejaculation.  You sound like you was possessed, flopping up and down like a fish. Nobody wants to hear that, especially me because I'm eating a sandwich while typing this.  Let me tell you what to stop this freaky sh*t.  First, STOP jacking off because that's most definitely the problem.  I'm 20 now and the last time I got some was Saturday.  I'm trying to find the right woman, so I'm going to have to stop having sex until I find the special one.  I got my first piece of *say what* when I was 17.  I've never had any problems like this because I never jacked off in my entire life.  So, just stop that or you'll grow hair on your palms and turn blind.

Sincerely,
SEOUL MAN.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 06:32:09 »

Hey Lola,

I feel you, baby.  I one day myself want to have a family with that special woman.  I just wanted to give this little boy some advice.  Is he just going to stay in a room his whole life, jacking off to porn magazines?  You gotta interact with people, you gotta experience life. If you don't, that's how these kids grow up and turn into pedophiles and sick f*cks.  Yeah, science ain't bad, but that kind of astrophysics sexual stuff is just freaky.  It just makes me disgusted the way these punk kids act nowadays, you know what I mean?  I can't believe what I've seen - as if the sun blinded me, when I should have worn sunscreen.  Do you feel me, honey?

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 07:52:34 »

Seoul Man .... WTF. What TheDarkChakra said had little or nothing to do with masterbation. There is no need to lynch him about something like that.  

TheDarkChakra i compleatly agree with Manuel i dont want to go into details but its certainly not uncommon. Its association with the rest of your body tensing up though is the interesting part.... cause that sounds awfully like a seziure.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2006, 17:40:35 »

TheDarkChakra,

You have posted quite an interesting topic it seems. Aside from the off topic comments, I have recently finished a book that talks about levels of spirituality.  These levels are likened to floors.  (Chakras)

On the 1st floor (1st chakra) one must deal with the material side of 'self', which is greed, money, anything you want materialistic wise, but do not need.  This must be overcome to lift spirit to the second floor. (2nd Chakra and so on) Which is in fact the 'sensual' or sexual energies and desire side of self.  

What the meaning of it is this:  you utilize that sexual energy to focus on the OoBE.  If you can pass this area of gratification and not climax, you would use the energy that your body produces to enable you to project.

It speaks of focus and allowing you to understand that these desires are part of the human side, once you understand that gratification expends your energy, your work on trying to exit is terminated, at least in this attempt.  

Maybe the next time you try to project, understand that concept, refocusing your energy into the astral and see if it doesn't help.  Or focus on opening and closing your chakras in order?

Just a thought. Hope it helps.  

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2006, 02:14:27 »

Seoul Man-
As a matter of fact, I don't masturbate much. In all my life all I had was a few wet dreams. Learn to not think you know someone from just a few posts. I learned that lesson before I was 10 years old. I don't care about what you want to become or do, no one here does, just don't go off insulting me when I did nothing wrong, on my own thread. If you don't know how to project, go elsewhere because this is about projecting only. It seems you have a problem in this sexual issue. Calling me little kid means you are desperate to be superior to someone in any way.

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Hey thanks for your support and I like your icon from FMA.

fliesatnite- Thanks man. My ejaculation is normal because of energy flowing through all my chakras. My sacral chakra isn't very opened probably because my root is unbalanced is well but I'm working on those. If your root is balanced you will immediately active the others in order until imbalance in one of them occurs. Yeah ejaculation is normal and should go away after a few more times (in my theory). In fact I tried a few more times later and it seems to be calming down. It seems thinking about something else is the natural way of projecting but it doesn't put pressure on your astral body as Robert Bruce said it should. I gotta research his more...
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2006, 02:33:20 »

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Seoul Man-
As a matter of fact, I don't masturbate much. In all my life all I had was wet dreams. Learn to not think you know someone from just a few posts. I learned that lesson before I was 10 years old. I don't care about what you want to become or do, no one here does, just don't go off insulting me when I did nothing wrong, on my own thread. If you don't know how to project, go elsewhere because this is about projecting only. It seems you have a problem in this sexual issue. Calling me little kid means you are desperate to be superior to someone in any way.


Hey shrimp,

You need to learn one of life's most important lessons, R.E.S.P.E.C.T.  Don't you dare be dissing me.   Don't you know that knowledge is free?  I'm teaching you something that your parents never did, about the birds and the bees.  So please, don't even squeeze the topic, just drop it.

As a wise man once said, "Shut your mouth and know your role."  I'm not desperate, I AM superior to you.  I'm older, smarter, wiser, and more good-looking then you will ever be.  I'm just trying to help you out and tell you what your problems are and how you gotta correct them if you wanna succeed.  It's real sad when we see punks thinking they know all that, when in reality they know nothing at all.

Nobody wants to hear that perversion, as I stated earlier.  Nobody cares.  Go confess your sins, because you're shivering in the shins.  Don't be posting that kinda stuff on an astrophysics site or you will never see the light.  Talk to your dad, your grandpa, or your psychiatrist.  Be an optimist, not a pessimist. Stay calm and cool, not distressed.  Life is too short to play silly games, so don't you talk back to me again.

Sincerely,
SEOUL MAN.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2006, 03:42:08 »

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Hey shrimp,

You need to learn one of life's most important lessons, R.E.S.P.E.C.T.  Don't you dare be dissing me.   I AM superior to you.  
Sincerely,
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Look who's talking...LOL

Seriously, dude, all you have done is talked trash and tell everyone how superior you think you are to everyone. Stop it now, or get banned.

This is your final warning.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2006, 04:31:36 »

Respect? Seems I get more than you do. You're only 4 years older than me, that's not like a 5 year old learning from a 80 year old. You wish you we're superior to me, if you were, you wouldn't be "looking" for your perfect woman. I know how to get my destined girl and can get her anytime but right now I'd rather have fun with APing and perhaps balance my chakras. I can control every single aspect of my life and most grandpas can't even do that. Underestimating someone could cost you something precious. We are not all equal. You don't even know the simplest things like "looks can be deceiving" and "don't judge a book by it's cover". You can't even behave on a simple forum. You lack serious discipline. This is my thread so go away or you will get banned.


Eh, I'm getting tired of this nonsense, can we get back to the topic?
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2006, 04:43:31 »

Dear Astrophysicists,

If I do not recall, let me begin ya'll.  I'm wandering through the desert, Arabian Nights, like I was wearing a shawl.  What I said was not trash, rather I spoke with class.  It was as if I was a Catholic schoolboy on his way to Mass.  You better hurry up, or you'll be last.  I did not mean to harm anybody in anyway, it's just that I have to say what I feel.  It's okay, as long as nobody cries.  I don't mean to yell, I don't mean to shout so that doesn't give you an excuse to scream and pout.  It's like I was doing tilework, trying to clean out the grout.  Why do you have to oppress me as if you were a tyrant?  Isn't the truth blatantly apparent?  If anybody is harmed by what I said, then I'm sorry, I did what I did.  Please, let us begin anew, like the seasons changing - summer red, winter blue.

Yours Truly,
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P.S The above post was from my heart.  I hope you all feel me.  I'm on a mission like I just woke up from hibernation. What a wonderful sensation!  Is it treason to have a reason for being?
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2006, 16:54:40 »

TheDarkChakra,

Another thought might be the position you are in during your attempt?  Are you lying on your back or side or might you try sitting?  I realize sitting is a little harder to achieve projection, but it might help you to balance your Chakras?

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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2006, 18:04:03 »

Back to topic....

TheDarkChakra, one of the other posters mentioned sexual energy and the 2nd chakra which the yogic philosophy calls svadisthana (not sure on my spelling there). From my understanding though, that poster was correct.

Any type of energy movement, which includes vibrations which can be experienced pre-OBE, can over excite this chakra or any chakra for that matter. The challenge for anyone is to concentrate and will the energy to go up and not remain there. If you can raise the energy and the vibrations you should be able to succeed in exiting. But it all boils down to will power.

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2006, 19:04:07 »

Novice,

Thank you, you explained it so much better than I did!
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2006, 21:31:41 »

Novice & filesatnite: Thanks for your support!
Novice:
Yeah but this forces the body out. But I have hard time concentrating on anything else to project. And then there's body awareness. So many ways I can do this...

All I do was relax and then pretend (no visualization) something is sucking my soul out and then my heart chakra is pumping hard and I get aroused and then my PHYSICAL body starts to try to float. Does this mean I still focus on my physical body too much? (since there's no such thing as body asleep because it's actually the mind which makes it seem like my body is asleep) Should I still continue to practice?

Also does trying to AP strengthen the chakras permenately? even slightly? I could use chakra work as I am practicing.
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2006, 22:03:48 »

Well, to be honest, your visualization makes me very.......apprehensive. The whole "sucking your soul" thing. Everybody should do what works for them, but I **personally** would not be able to try with that visualization.

And you actually want to get to a point where you are unaware of your chakras and your body. I'm probably not the best one to ask here, because I never experience vibrations or sounds or any of the other sensations when I exit. But I will tell you what works for me, if that helps.

For me, if I'm doing this early morning hours and still in bed, I will simply lie there and not move my body. I allow my mind to completely relax. Usually about the time I start getting hypnogagic images, or maybe right before that stage, I'll be completely inwards and feel my arms and sometimes my legs floating free. Just kinda bobbing in the air like they do when they are in water in the physical. I simply ignore those sensations and remain calm and focused. Eventually I simply feel myself release. Its very gentle and smooth. Its like my etheric is connected to my physical with a switch. I can feel it getting loose and floaty everywhere but I don't try and move because I can feel it hasn't fully seperated yet. The full seperation I experience as if someone simply flips a switch or pushes a button and I immediately begin to rise from my body. Re-entry for me is essentially reversed. I feel myself kind of fall gently like a feather back in to my body.

So my recommendation would be to maybe try a different visualization/technique and see if you are able to go further next time. Perhaps by going inwards and just allowing your body to be and do whatever it is at the time and basically ignore it. Let the mind grow bored with it and go deep inside. This is the point at which the body 'goes to sleep' because the mind is elsewhere. Then see if you get vibrations or feel any part of your body getting loose and floaty.

Sorry I can't advise much on your current technique, but I simply don't have any experience with it. Hopefully something here can help you. If not, there may be others who can help you with another technique that works for them.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2006, 23:56:39 »

Oh so you're phasing. Well then this question rises: Why does Robert Bruce say that in order to project you must pressure your astral body enough to come out of your physical body?
(His rope technique is what is meant)

I can either continue with my own technique or try phasing like Novice said.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2006, 00:11:46 »

Actually I can use this technique either to exit or to phase. What I wrote was for exiting with the etheric. If I were phasing, my procedure would be the same, but instead of getting to the exiting part and having my consciousness there, I would instead focus on the hypnogagic images and when stable enough, enter one of those. From there I simply move around by feeling wherever I want to go.

As for RB, I have a lot of respect for his work, and have read through AD and done some of the techniques. He has helped me to feel and move energy better. But as I mentioned, I have never had a problem seperating from my body, which doesn't sound like what I want to say. I'm by no means implying that I can OBE at will. What I am saying is that, in my experience, when I am able to induce an exit, I don't perceive energy surges nor need to force anything to happen. For me, I find it much easier to just relax, watch and wait. Others do need to raise a lot of energy and be more forceful with it. That's why I stated you probably don't want my advice here. I think I'm in the minority in the way in which this happens for me.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2006, 00:31:46 »

Well thanks anyway, your kindly posts are greatly appreciated! I will try both your technique and my own. Or perhaps maybe mix them. I'll experiment.

Also what happens when you go to sleep at night? Like I think about stuff and before I know it, I'm sleeping. Do we hand our control to the subconscious mind?
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2006, 05:13:00 »

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 Yeah, science ain't bad, but that kind of astrophysics sexual stuff is just freaky.


No offense, but be sure of what you are talking about before you say it.  Astrophysics is the study of the interaction of energy and matter throughout the universe.  Trust me, I study it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2006, 16:46:50 »

It is clear that he is enjoying this, lol. I think he is mainly stringing out rhymes now, entertained at how quickly people jump on him. Some of it may be a bit lewd, but it is in the "shock overload" school that has been around since the late 80's- no one seems to notice he is merely taking the form of an ironic ranconteur.
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2006, 00:56:41 »

Trust me, you won't be hearing from this guy again.  grin

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