G'day Forum Folks!
Adept of light makes some good points, as do Florian and
many other posters.
The book 'Autobiography of a Yogi' by Paramahansa Yogananda, is
one of my favorites. Its a true gem.
"A saint is a sinner who never gave up." (Sayings of Yogananda)
I do not believe the so-far unsubstantiated accusations and rumors
concerning Sai Baba. This sounds more like 'tall poppy syndrome'
of people trying to negate his message of peace and God realization
in preference for their own contrived version of truth.
If you really want to know the truth about the world you life in, do
not believe everything you read in newspapers and magazines, or
on TV or the net. This is often far, far from the truth.
My senses, plus my experience with Sai, tells me that he is what
he says he is. Videos can be edited and made false, and false allegations
made to seem real. It is quite possible that Sai Baba is the victim
of a conspiracy, designed to cast doubt on his work, to make him
look bad in the eyes of modern people, to stop the spread of
his message, and the increase of his millions of followers worldwide.
I have firsthand experience with powerful conspiracies, and thus
know that they can and do happen. The information the public is given
via TV and newspapers is often false or misleading. Anyone who thinks
otherwise is naive. Sure, some of the stories you hear
are contrived through mischief, but some are very real indeed. However,
the official reports about such things are often contrived and far
from the whole truth.
Note that it is quite amazing what an expert can do with a video tape.
I would also like to point out that if Sai Baba craved sex,
as a powerful man he would have no problems finding willing
and discrete partners. So why would he risk everything by
interfering with his students against their will. This does not
make any kind of sense at all. Also, note that such accusers gain
lots of publicity and attention, and are paid lots of money for
their stories.
All influential people are prone to having false allegations made
against them, and of false evidence being presented to the public via
rumor. But it is very rare for such evidence to be presented to a
court of law and substantiated. As far as I know, no formal charges
have ever been laid against Sai Baba, and none of the said allegations
have ever been proven.
Sure, it can be said that he is too powerful, and/or that the government
of India and his millions of followers are protecting him. But this
does not prove anything one way or the other, although it can definitely
be used to add fuel to a rumor campaign and make baseless allegations
'seem' to be more real than they actually are in fact.
Note that the catholic church had a team of bishops investigate
Sai Baba thoroughly, a ten year long investigation. The church
was worried that Sai might have been the antichrist. This investigation
was done in the 60's, I think.
This report was never released, but a press conference
was held where a Vatican official, when asked what their findings
were, replied that Sai Baba appeared to be who he said he was. They
added when pressed, that because Sai's teachings were so closely
aligned to Christian teachings, that he could not possibly be
the antichrist.
I would also like to add that Sai Baba is well into his seventies,
although he does not look it. Its strange that no allegations of sexual
abuse were leveled against him when he was younger. If he is a sexual
deviate, as some suggest, then surely this would have manifested more
strongly when he was younger and had a stronger sex drive - curious.
People might also like to take a look at what Sai Baba does with the
many millions of dollars he is given every year. Most of this is put
into hospitals and schools for the poor. And this fact is provable.
You must admit that this does not tally with the idea of him being
a false guru type with a sex problem.
As for werewolves being real, well, I have never personally seen one, but
I have seen demons and evil spirits (call them whatever you like)
materialize in semi physical form. In this form they are capable
of affecting matter, eg, of physically harming a person or of destroying
property, etc. So, it is only a small step from here to believing that
an entity could shape shift and appear in animal form, say as a huge wolf.
If an entity possesses a person, it is also possible that they could
transform that person's physical body, at least in part. I have seen
this happen, but not to the extent of total physical transformation.
I would also like to add that it is well known that materialization
mediums are capable of producing enough ectoplasm to allow spirits to
semi materialize in fully visible, touchable, photographable form.
Interested people should research books by or about Helen Duncan,
Estelle Roberts, and Sir Author Conan Doyle, and Michael Bentine, to
name a few.
In the 40's, public demonstrations were given at the Royal Albert Hall, to
audiences of several thousand people, where dozens of materialized
spirits would roam the audience simultaneously, fully visible, talking
to loved ones and etc. Today, most such demonstrations are done in private.
One such group involved in materialization production and research is the
'Scole Group' (the Scole Experiment), in the North of UK. I believe they
recently did a tour of the USA.
The below url is worth a look.
http://www.datadiwan.de/SciMedNet/library/articlesN73+/N73Knox_Scoleimplications.htmMost mediums capable of producing ectoplasm and materializing spirits
keep their secret abilities secret, for obvious reasons. Their lives
would be over if such things became public, re they would be hounded
by press and skeptics and scientists, and believers demanding spirit
materializations to order, for the rest of their lives.
Ectoplasm has been weighed and tested by some early scientists involved
with such mediums. However, such investigations are seldom accepted
by other scientists, then or now, no matter who does them or how
thorough they are. The above article on the Scole Group investigation
is a good example of this. Note the extreme resistance these scientists
encountered from their peers, when they tried to table their findings
after investigating the Scole Group firsthand.
It is fairly well known that a materialization medium will lose up to
40% of their body mass during such a demonstration. This has been shown
in scientific experiments where a medium is placed on a set of scales,
and the ectoplasm they produce weighed on another. It has been noted
that the scales kept a perfect balance at all times, with the weight loss
of the medium corresponding with the weight gain of the ectoplasm being
weighed on the other scale. This is part of the reason why such mediums
traditionally use a cabinet wrapped in black cloth (re they look
ghastly), plus the great sensitivity of ectoplasm, and the medium producing
it, to white light. Note that the Scole Group is producing heavy
physical phenomena, including photographical ectoplasm.
Helen Duncan, who was probably the greatest materialization medium of last
century, was raided by the secret service during her last public demonstration.
She was arrested for breaking the secrecy act, re some of the spirits of
deceased soldiers, sailors, etc were telling their families war
secrets, eg, where their ship was sunk, or where their battalion was or
was going, etc.
Helen spent some time in prison after this raid, after being badly
injured when several members of the secret service, at a set time, jumped
on materialized spirits and grabbed them, only to find they vanished in
their arms. When they turned on the lights, a great deal of ectoplasm
was destroyed, which did Helen a lot of damage. She died several months
later, but not before winning her case in court. As a result of this,
the 16th century 'witchcraft act' was abolished and a new 'fraudulent
medium's act' was created.
Anyway, if you really look around you'll find plenty of evidence to
support the possibility that spirits can sometimes materialize in
physical form, under the right conditions, and that human beings can
at least partially dematerialize or change their physical form. Obviously
such tangible manifestations are rare, but they are most definitely
not impossible.
As for werewolves eating more than their own body weight, well, this is
difficult to prove or disprove. If true, it may be that they somehow
transform the matter they eat into subtle energy (as the physical flesh of
a materialization medium transforms into ectoplasm), rather than digesting
it as a physical being would have to. Keep in mind that we are not
discussing a purely physical being here, but a combination of human/demon.
My earlier comment should not be taken as a statement of fact. I have
never seen a werewolf, but know a few people who have. I also know one
person who claims to have seen one in action, including feeding. This
person has great integrity, and my respect, and I have no reason to
doubt their word; but they wish to remain anonymous. I have, however,
as said, seem a number of demons and evil spirits manifest in semi solid
physical form, and etc. I have also seen angels and other such good
spirits materialize in semi-solid form. Because of these experiences, I
am of course open-minded about the whole werewolf thing.
Some people might prefer to think of such phenomenon as being caused
by semi materializing nature spirits with PK ability, or whatever...
But how you describe such manifestations does not really matter, as this
is simply a matter of different culturally-defined terminologies being used
to describe a variety of similar phenomena.
Of note, I also believe in UFO's, fairy beings and nature spirits. See
my online article 'Cyclone Tracy' for one such experience.
As for pentagrams appearing in palms, I think some people are over reacting.
What this means is that the lines in the hand can be interpreted as forming
a pentagram on someone who has a werewolf problem. I have seen a few such palms over the years, but have no idea if these people were actually
werewolves. This has nothing at all to do with any metaphysical symbol, or
sigil of a demon, appearing like a tattoo on someone's palm.
(A sigil is like a pictogram signature, usually related to a demon)
Folks, please be a little more understanding before jumping to conclusions
and calling people liars or etc, just because the contents of their posts
are a little unclear, or outside one's own experience or beliefs. We are
all entitled to our opinions, so please do not respond to posts unkindly,
or in confrontational ways. We can all agree to differ without being rude
to each other.
Note that I also believe in ufo's, nature spirits and fairy beings, re
I've seen quite a number over the years. See my online article 'Cyclone
Tracy', for an example. I am sure that in some people's minds I am quite
the crazy person because of this. That is, until their personal experiences
opens their eyes to the truth.
My MO is to explore a hundred and one crazy ideas that no one has ever
thought of exploring. By doing this, I come across the occasional gem.
Take care, Robert.
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