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i have no way of using headphones when i lay down. I don't have a mp3 player. I would be too afraid to use one in fear of rolling over it and ripping out the wires on the headphones. I have been lurking here for a long while. i have came across the binural mp3's before. i could get them on my own with google. I guess i could invest in a cheap mp3 player from newegg and lay on the couch so i don't want to roll over.

i have trouble relaxing because of the numbness. do you have any links to some usefull relaxation methods?

I have noticed that every night when I try to go to sleep, My arms start to get numb, Then my legs then more of my arms and legs and so on. I have trouble getting past this annoying part of sleep. I have trouble getting an obe started up. Might have something to do with my schedule bed at midnight up at noon.

Would this numbness have something to do with my sleep cycles?

I always get numb arms first, Then legs after that I cannot let go so I can possibly get into an obe as the numbness is quite distracting

mactombs, the pain started the first time, after my injury when i tried to go astral while awake. The pain is allways in the same place in my arm, and it allways starts when my right arm starts to fall asleep with the rest of my body. Trying to astral project while awake is the only time i have felt that pain.  I remember the night i broke my arm, i could not get surgery at night, so i had to sleep till morning to get surgery. That night i had a strong feeling i was in the astral, I felt somthing was after me Then the pain was felt while i was astral projecting, lucid dreaming or whatnot. It was like whatever i knew was after me could find me by the pain i was in. It woke me up and i stayed awake for a long time till i could fall asleep again.


I know that astral projecting through a dream state is possible, but my main goal is to astral project through being awake.


I don't know any reiki healers in town though, This is not a large towm,  But not a small one either.

The healing through lucid dreaming might be somthing to try for, I have never thought anything like that could work, but i have not thought about it in any way before you posted.  (sorry i forgot your name)

Thanks for trying to help me on this guys. I know i might get past this challange, but it just might take a while  

Well, This is my first time posting in these forums. I have been lurking and reading on, Studying and learning. I have been trying to astral project through trance for a while now. One thing that stops me everytime i try, Is an injury i had about 2 years back.


This injury was a broken forearm, when i broke my forearm, One of the bones in my forarm snaped in half. In order for my arm to heal they had to do surgery on me. They had to place the bone back in its original position. Then they had to put metal plates and screws into it.



Now, I have been trying to astral project in this manner, I lay down and controll my breathing. I breath in one breath then let my body take over and breath without me purposly trying to breath. Like automatic breathing i guess. well first my left leg and foot starts to go numb, then my left had and arm. When it gets to the point that moast of my body has gone numb, then my Right arm starts to go numb.

Then the pain starts, when my right arm is starting to loose sense i feel incredable pain where my arm was broken in the past. It feels like my arm is broken all over again.

I have a theroy that when your body starts to go numb through trance, it goes in layers and stages. for me it starts on my left foot and the outer layer of skin, Then the numbness goes deeper. I think that when the numbness tries to go bone deep on my right arm i can feel the metal inside my arm, Then it starts to hurt really bad.

This is the one thing that stops me from going any further, The incredable pain i feel, Allmoast like my arm is still broken.

I need to find a way around the pain, Maybe i need to find a way to ignore this intense concentration breaking pain.

I do not know what to do. I have made it a goal to try and astral project from waking trance. Now it seems my goal has been shattered.


If anyone has any ideas, or information that could help me past the tremendous physical pain. Please let me know.