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It could be said that deekshas give a BIG boost in your way to enlightenment. It is gradual, not suddenly, and it is very different for each person. Each deeksha that you receive is a different experience. Some people don't feel anything at a first moment, but later things continue to move on. It is like a computer program that works continually in you, accelerating your process of liberation. Other people when they receive the energy transmission go on ecstatic states, like a very powerful body orgasm. In your everyday life your energy level is too low, and seldom one can experience a deep 'orgasm' like that, because with deekshas, the energy comes from without.
So, in the 21 day process there is a lot of talk and a LOT of energy transmission. Every day you receive a lot of deekshas, and gradually you become ready for the total awakening.
Enlightenment is awareness, pure awareness, it is a jump into the infinity, the eternal here and now. Choiceless awareness is bliss. Everything fully experienced turns into joy.

Here there is a interview with Steven Ross, a well-known american yogi.
http://www.livinginjoy.com/en/exp/2829

Have you seen that movie What the bleep do we know? Well, certainly you can say that it is bovine excrement, but at certain aspects the movie is right. Many people have seen this movie, and there is a web-page with articles about the subjects were talk about. There is a new article at their site about Sri Bhagavan and the Oneness Movement, with some pictures of the Oneness Temple under construction, which will be the power plant of global enlightenment. It is very HUGE and beautiful, it has a very high advanced design and engineering to channel the energy of meditators. Take a look...

http://www.whatthebleep.com/herald11/articles.shtml

Tiago -

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=183365&highlight=#183365

In this post from december, you seem very skeptical of these people. What has happened since then that you put so much faith in them now?

You are right... At that time I was very skeptical like anyone else, and I had gone to just one 1-day retreat near my city. Later things became more clear, I went to the 21-day retreat and many things happened that changed everything on me. That old guy is gone now. Otherwise I would not come here again and tell you these things.

Cya

This was on one of the websites for a retreat in L.A.:

Our next English speaking group scheduled to attend the 21-Day Enlightenment Process is set for March 2006.  For those who have already attended the 21-Day Process we will also be taking a group to participate in the 10-Day Deepening Process.  A minimum of five months must pass between attending the 21-Day Process and attending the 10-Day Deepening Process.

Instantaneous enlightenment just got stretched to 21 days... and then you have to come back to "deepen" it.

Yeah, that's right. The peak experience of enlightenment does not occur instantaneously. Basically what changes during the process is the intensity of the awareness. When your brain undergoes the transformation, there will be a shift in your perception, in your awareness. Your life traumas will continue to come to the surface, but now it will be different: you will be in another state of consciousness, allowing yourself to watch your pain passively. In fact, at a certain point you be in a state of 'hopeless' awareness. Whatever comes to you will come and go, without condemnation. You will experience everything fully, and for days, months or even some years, all your past trash will come to the surface and then be relieved forever. So, your condition to overcome your traumas depends pretty much of the health and functioning of your brain, the quality of your perception.

It is not only that too. In the retreats there are a lot of things to learn. When you come to this state of being, you are capable of many many unimaginable things.

Moreover, many of the most known spirit masters of our planet and masters from other spheres are working with Sri Bhagavan. I will not tell their names here, but they are actually working with the deeksha process. They themselves give deekshas through the body of the people that are ready for it. So, when you participate of the 21 day process you can go to your home city and give deekshas to others too. It is an unbelievable experience, being in contact with these masters, channeling this powerful energy.
So, there are retreats all around the world at this time. It is not the same as the 21 day retreat, but there are 1-day, 2-days, even 10-days retreats. These are much less powerful than the 21 day process in the Oneness University. You can find a deeksha giver next to you. In some places are totally free, in others people will charge if they need for themselves. Go there, experience, look what is going on, talk openly with the instructors. Then come back here and say what you think.

So, WHO do you think is finding himself? The 'spirit', the 'soul', 'consciousness', or whatever name you call it, can't find itself. Is the same thing as your eyes trying to look to itself without a mirror. And to 'know' itself, there is the need of the mirror, in our case, the mind. Without it, who are you? No one, you only is. You are what you are, and this is not a realization, not a discover, it is nothing like that. The real point there is the mind moving its center away from the physical body. You can indeed move it away doing 'projection of consciousness', 'phasing', all this stuff, but it is only temporary, then you come back to the physical center. If you can clean by yourself all the traumas of your past, all your conditioning, that is good, and very rare too, but that is not enough. The last step is triggered from outside, and your brain goes through a transformation that creates a 'hole' in the mind, plugging you again at the source, at the innermost 'body'. This last step is indeed done by a superior being, the 'you' can do absolutely nothing at this point. And what is happening at the Golden Age Foundation of Sri Bhagavan is that the 'last step' is being done directly. Their dasas who are already enlightened give the deekshas that make some alterations in the brain, and various different kinds of deekshas that will help clean the blockages in the nadis. The best thing you can do to believe is investigating, looking at someone that completed the process. Look into them, use your spiritual eyes, see if there is any trace of fear or of egoism remaining. Scan their brains - in the first post there is a link to some scans. Think a little more rationally, and less emotionally - the ego thinks of his merit, and of course until now effort was very necessary to promote any kind of inner change, there was no other way. But now you have two choices: go straight to the state, or wait until it happens, because it is going to happen in a global scale very soon.

hehe, I already expected these commentaries... But it is not clear for me what people think enlightenment IS, scientifically speaking. Everybody has a religious view on it, even if they can deceive themselves saying that they are not religious. If you think of merit, of achievement, anything personal, anything that is creating division between You and Everything, you are being religious. I can say that my dog is in truth more religious than anybody here, because he is what he is, and is not seeking for anything. First of all, no GOD has ever talked that somebody needs to seek for enlightenment. NO. Human mind has created this bovine excrement. How someone can have merit in anything, if his entire action is influenced by the cosmos? Do you think anybody can swim against the flow of the entire cosmos? No, even if you think you can. What I am saying is like 'monistic idealism', there is only ONE consciousness, one will in the universe. Souls DO NOT exist. There are bodies, infinite different kinds of bodies in the universe. And what is 'achieving' enlightenment in fact is the HUMAN BRAIN, the physical bodies, and the "upper" bodies in accordance. And this is not particular evolution, it is cosmic evolution, 'god' evolution. And now the earth is almost ready for the crop of a new species, with much more power than the later. Actually the hardware became obsolete, and it is being changed for a new. And "WHO" is changing? Well, the change is being carried by the so called 'avatar'. The 'avatar' is like a program that was born here to coordinate the evolution, nothing more. If you want to call him god, you can, but it is just another body of god, like every body in this universe. There are some more powerful, some less powerful. The Earth is too a body, and this body have an energy interchange with the cosmos. Now the energies of Earth are getting to the 'point'. These new beings require a different supply of energy, because their bodies are far more energetic expensive than today's body. And that is why it have been so difficult to people achieve enlightenment until now. Very few were granted with enlightenment. Now the situation is changing, and soon we will see a global quantum leap, when Sri Bhagavan had finished his work of enlighten 64,000 people. Then it will spread spontaneously, without the need for deekshas, like I said. Actually there is much more to tell, to explain in deep details. When you talk scientifically, there is no space for obscurity, for deception, religious bovine excrement... And people working with Sri Bhagavan, giving deekshas around the world will talk in different languages, to different people. If you want to give a deeksha to a Christian, talk about Christ. But I am more science oriented, so I try my best to be coherent to Science, and explain scientifically what religions are talking about. There are some esoteric schools that are closer to science, like Gurdjieff's for example, although no school has 100% of accuracy in their knowledge. In these schools you can collect some information more closer to the truth about the cosmos, the earth and the human species.

Here are links for more information:

http://www.newbrainnewworld.com/
http://www.masteringlife.dk/Diksha/whatisdikshaa.html
http://www.onenessuniversity.org/
http://www.trueawakening.org/
http://www.experiencefestival.com/

This is about Sri Bhagavan, a man that was born to GIVE enlightenment, through energy transfers called 'deekshas'. And that is not about initiation, there is no meditation needed anymore, no more sadhanas. It is true the end of the "Age of Ignorance", because Earth is ending a cycle and its energies are now almost ready for a quantum leap of human evolution. Look, this is science, pure science. Nothing mystical about it, if you don't believe, investigate it, scientfically, through physics, through neuro-biology, look at the people enlightened by the deekshas, they brain are high at the entire day, you can look at their EEG here.

I am posting this here to find people interested or that is already involved, so we can talk about it. Does anybody here know him already?



For the people interested, here is a introductory interview with Sri Bhagavan:

Question: Bhagavan, what is the difference between your teachings and the other great teachings?
Sri Bhagavan: Basically, for example, other teachers say, "Be aware of your mind. Be a witness..." and all those things. What I am saying is, "It is not possible for man. Most teachings are impractical. If one tries to practice it, he might actually go into certain problems you know. Like, he may become insane. People will become depressed, all kinds of problem will occur. People may commit suicide. Many things will happen like that, because those teachings cannot be practiced. For example, they talk about "Practising Awareness". That's impossible! To practice it. But, my statement is ­ They are describing their state. They did not practice those things and get that state. They got that state. Because they got that state, it was possible for them to be aware of. Without the state you cannot be aware of. Similarly, when it comes to Ramana Maharishi, my stand is - Ramana Maharishi first had a death experience. Therefore the question "Who am I" made sense to him. But to a person without a death experience it won't make any sense. So, my stand is ­ Most teachings won't work. They give some clarity about life. But then you cannot practice them, because you must be in an altered state of consciousness. Then it is very natural.

For example, it is very natural for a man to be jealous, very natural for a man to be angry. So, if you are talking about not being jealous, not being angry - you must be like a Buddha or a Christ. Buddha and Christ had a different state of consciousness. So, my stand is, I will give you that state. Once I have given you that state, then naturally you have no jealousy, you have no anger, you have no frustration, you have love and bliss. But you can't try to get love, because the love that we are talking about is unconditional love. However much you try you can't get there. You are full of jealousy. Through effort you can't get to non-jealousy. From jealousy you can only go into jealousy, you can't go into non- jealousy. So whatever you do, you are trapped.

So my whole thing is ­ this whole thing is not a psychological process. It is a biological process. Now what I do is, I basically work on the human brain to activate this mystical power. So in fact I myself don't have to work directly also. These Dasas who are enlightened, they are in tune with me. Everyday we do this process. I transfer the power to them and they in turn will go and touch. Then, as they touch, the brain undergoes a transformation. So, to me, if you take Ramana Maharishi, his brain underwent that transformation. Therefore Ramana Maharishi is in that state. Jiddu Krishnamurthy is in that state because his brain underwent that process. A Buddha is a Buddha because his brain underwent that process. So, unless your brain also undergoes that process, you cannot be a Buddha, you cannot be a Ramana Maharishi, you cannot be a Jiddu Krishnamurthy. You cannot be anybody.

So that is why I am telling, all teachings are useless. All that they can do is that they can make you into a seeker. You start desiring for it. They are describing Bombay, so begin to seek Bombay. You know there is no way for you to get to Bombay, because you must undergo the same Neuro-Biological transformation that these teachers underwent. What is involved here is Neuro-Biology. So what we give is called the "Deeksha". The Deeksha is transfer of power to certain parts of the brain. Then certain parts get activated, certain parts get deactivated and you can get into any spiritual states you seek for. It could be a Christian state, it could be an Islamic state, it could be a Buddhist state, or a Taoist state. So each of these states depend on a particular activity of the brain. So I belong to all faiths. I have Christians, I have Muslims in the movement, you know. So whatever state you want I can give it to you. So, my whole teaching is ­ IT HAS TO BE GIVEN TO YOU.

Question: Is there any difference between the various states you mentioned ­ the Buddhist, Islam, Christian and the Taoist states?
Sri Bhagavan: There is a difference. A Buddhist state will be, for example, technically when we speak, you know what is called the Agneya Chakra? If that Chakra is activated you get a Buddhist state. If Visshudhi is activated you get a Islamic state. If Anahatha is activated you get a Christian state. If the Sahasrara is activated you get a Hindu state. So these Chakras are actually located in different parts of the brain. But what is common is, in all those states there is no suffering. There is love. There is joy. But the actual experience is different between each state. So as far as I am concerned, you choose your state and I am prepared to give you that state. I can just give it to you, because I know what technicality is behind it. WITHOUT KNOWING THE TECHNICALITY, SIMPLY GOING ON TALKING, TALKING, TALKING, WHAT IS THE USE? AND THE POOR SEEKER GOES ON LISTENING TO TEACHINGS. BUT THINGS WON'T HAPPEN. HE'LL LOOSE INTEREST IN HIS FAMILY LIFE, HE'LL LOOSE INTEREST IN THE WORLD. ULTIMATELY HE'LL BECOME DEPRESSED. 30 TO 40 YEARS HE WILL BE SEEKING. HE WILL BE DOING SADHANA. HE'LL GET SOME PEACE, SOME JOY, BUT NO PROGRESS. HE BEGINS TO LOOSE INTEREST IN SPIRITUALITY AND RELIGION. HE BECOMES FRUSTRATED. THEN ULTIMATELY HE BECOMES A NUISANCE IN THE FAMILY ITSELF. BEING A FRUSTRATED MAN HE CANNOT ENJOY LIFE. SO HE BECOMES A BURDEN ON OTHERS. ANYBODY WHO IS UNHAPPY, WHO IS FRUSTRATED, WHO IS SUFFERING, HE WILL CAUSE TROUBLE TO OTHERS.

So that is why I do not believe in propagating teachings. My thing is ­ Come, straight away get the state. After you have got the state, use the teachings to understand the state. Suppose you are in a Buddhist state, the Buddhist teachings will help you know exactly where you are. A Christian teaching will help you get clarity into a Christian state. The teachings come after the state, not before. SO I MAINTAIN, ALL TEACHERS ARE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. So, if you are a good teacher, give the seeker the state. Give it to him first. After having given it, then give the teaching. You may give a little in the beginning to help him seek. That's all. Then quickly go on to the state itself. IF YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO GIVE THE STATE, THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK.

Suppose I am talking to you something, I must be in a position to give you that state. If I cannot give you, I should not talk. I should not say ­ "Oh, so beautiful my state is. You also try, you will get it." Well, it does not happen that way. Ramana Maharishi did not apply his teachings to himself. He first got the state. It happened to him. Then he began to speak. Jiddu Krishanmurthy, did not apply his teachings. He got the state. Thereafter he began to talk. So, is there any single teacher who has applied his teaching and got there? Nobody. So when you have not applied and got there, how is it you teach others? You are telling, "You practice compassion, you practice love, you over come lust". Is it so easy to overcome lust? Do this and do that. And the poor fellow keeps trying and trying. And the enlightened person is made into a model. He thinks that's how you become that. He is trying and he is ruined. That is why I am against the practice of spirituality. So in that way I am very very different from other teachers. They say ­ Nobody can give it to you. You have to make it on your own. I am telling, "Till dooms day you will not make it on your own. It has to be given to you". Exactly opposite. That's where we differ.

Everyday I am producing hundreds of sages. You can come and see. It'll take 3 to 4 minutes. That's all. One touch and a seer is produced. You can meet the villagers ­ Muniamma, Kuppamma, Munuswamy ­ in unimaginable states. All that happened was just one touch. Then the teachings come out. NOW IF THEY TALK, THEY WILL EXCEL SOME OF THE GREATEST TEACHERS OF ALL TIMES. BECAUSE THEIR STATE IS TALKING. You can see live people, ordinary people, ordinary villagers, not just one or two ­ hundreds. Fully enlightened, who can do miracles, healing miracles. So, this is a strange village. Even as you walk you will be meeting Ramana Maharishis and Buddhas. But only things is they are not as famous as Ramana Maharishi and Buddha. They are ordinary people. That is the only difference. When you talk you will know. "My goodness what is this!" They have been produced liked that.

If you are a true guru, you must produce it. Otherwise why do you teach ?

Question: Is this movement based on scientific theories?
Sri Bhagavan: Mine is purely science. See if I meet a Neuro-Biologist, I will talk to him in terms of temporal lobes, parietal lobes - so I will talk in terms of pure science. So I go hand in hand with science. I welcome science and I believe the day has come when science and spirituality go together. So for me everything is science only.

Miracles do happen. This movement is producing healers everyday. So we train up people to be very good healers. Some miracles I do myself.

If you talk of science, there was a lady recently whose tongue was cut off in the cancer institute. Now the tongue has come. But, they are not speaking a word about it. They are only telling that Chemotherapy was done and it became alright. They are not speaking one word about the growth of the tongue. That, I am saying is not science. If you are true to science you must say, "The tongue has grown". You must investigate it. How can you suppress a fact? When you have cut a tongue and the tongue has come back. This does not happen in western countries.

Question: Bhagavan, are you God?
Sri Bhagavan: Basically, it is like this. God essentially is unmanifest. That is, He cannot be seen, He cannot be spoken to. But He is there. But since you cannot see, you cannot speak to, He is as good as not being there as far as you are concerned.

Then, the God that people normally talk about is the God who you call as Antaryamin. i.e., He can be seen inside, you can talk inside; He can appear to so many and disappear. That's what people normally refer to as God. Sometimes God can incarnate in physical form. That's what is called an Avatar. I am an Avatar. In that sense I am God. But if you ask me ­ am I that unmanifest God right now, I am certainly not because I am fully physical. But I am God in the sense that I am an Avatar. So, God has these three faces. The example I give for this is - steam, water and ice. They are the same thing. As steam, it is everywhere. You can't control it. A liquid is more controlled, but still it is moving. Ice is much more solid. The physical Avatar is something very solid. So, Miracles happen around the physical Avatar. You can come to me. You can talk to me about your problem. The problem is solved. If you come to me, I can say, "OK, this will happen, that will happen". Many, many miracles will happen. Now, it is very easy to contact me than to contact the manifested God and still more difficult to contact the unmanifest God. That is the advantage. You take my picture and you talk to me. The response comes back. And I am not claiming that I am the only Avatar. There have been Avatars from time to time. The world is full of Avatars through whom God is acting. That's all.

Question: How can we tackle the Ayodhya issue?
Sri Bhagavan: To me all problems, whether they are economical problems, or political problems, they all emanate from one basic problem. That is, man is not Enlightened. So, if one problem disappears, another problem will crop up, if you are not Enlightened. Today, it might be Ayhodhya, tomorrow it might be something else. So the ultimate solution is that man must become Enlightened. And I maintain that large numbers of people will become Enlightened, starting from June 2004 and by September-November 2012, most of humanity will be Enlightened. When that happens? The problem will just disappear. That is my solution to the world's problems. I don't believe in national boundaries. Dividing the world into nations, into countries, into religions ­ as long as there are divisions there will be suffering. All divisions must go. If all divisions must go, the 'Self' must go. That is Enlightenment. Unless man becomes Enlightened, there will one problem or the other. Say there is water in the pipe. If you press it here, it will bulge somewhere else. If you press it there, it will bulge somewhere else again. Ayodhya might go, something else might crop up. Where is the end to all this ? So, the ultimate solution is that man must be transformed. If man is going to live the way he is living, he will destroy himself. With all these nuclear weapons, ecological pollutions and other conflicts. We are only racing towards destruction. Unless there is a transformation in his consciousness and he becomes a totally new being, there is no hope for man. I am interested in man's problem. That will take care of this problem also.

Suppose Hindus and Muslims, they can no more see themselves as Hindus and Muslims, where is the Ayodhya problem? But otherwise where is the solution? The same thing can be applied for India-Pakistan also. It also boils down to a religious problem only. And you must out grow religion, which means you must outgrow the 'Self'. So, we need a radical transformation of man, which is possible. I never talk about that which is impossible. I can demonstrate to you that it is possible.

Question: What is the root cause of fundamentalism? How can it be rooted out?
Sri Bhagavan: You see, fundamentalism is basically because people are not able to cope up with the changes that are happening. The world is moving too, too, too fast. So the old is not prepared to give way to the new. If you are not prepared to give way to the new, then fundamentalism arises. It can be Islamic fundamentalism, it can be Christian fundamentalism, it can be Hindu fundamentalism. But the fact is we cannot stop these changes from occurring. So, more changes are likely to take place and there could be a growth in fundamentalism also. Again and again I see only Enlightenment as the solution, because the world is growing very very fast. You are not prepared to give up your old ways, which means you have become a fundamentalist. That's what is happening. Islamic world is not able to cope up with the changes that are occurring and that is the root cause of fundamentalism. So, if you must be able to cope up with these changes, you must outgrow the 'Self'. So, ultimately, you come back to enlightenment as the solution.

Question: How can we achieve this kind of Enlightenment?
Sri Bhagavan: What I am maintaining is - 60,000 people must become fully enlightened. If 60,000 people become fully enlightened, all else is automatic. i.e. Automatically everywhere people will become enlightened. That's all. It's automatic. A natural process. But to trigger it 60,000 people must go into a very high state of enlightenment. If they emerge on the planet, then the whole planet will be in that state. So my work is only to produce those 60,000 people. So, I believe that by 2012 I will be able to achieve it. Latest is 2012. It could well happen before that. When that happens, their mere presence on the planet brings the transformation. You don't have to know about the movement, come to the movement, nothing. Wherever you are, suddenly one fine morning you will be enlightened. You'll become very calm, loving and peaceful. It's natural. It happens. That's all. That's what we are doing. So we have allotted some numbers to every country. We have people in every country. All are working towards this. So, if 60,000 people if we successfully reach, it's all over.

Question: What is your vision and mission?
Sri Bhagavan: My vision is that there must be the Golden Age by 2012. My mission is to make 60,000 people enlightened. That's my mission. The way is ­ I give Deeksha. That's my vision, mission and way. I simply give Deeksha. I am not asking you to do some terrible practice. You simply come and take Deeksha. That's all. You are enlightened. Like this I want 60,000 people.

Question: Is the state you intend to give a permanent and irreversible one?
Sri Bhagavan: Yes, yes. Because this is a Neuro-Biological transformation. It is not psychological. If it is psychological, it'll come, it'll go. I am not working on the software. I am working on the hardware - the brain itself. I am bringing about the mutation of the brain. Because when the brain has changed, the hardware has changed. It's permanent. If it's only in the software, it'll be there for a few days, few hours, few minutes, few seconds and go away. This is a hardware transformation. You can meet these enlightened people actually to understand this transformation. I am not talking about something that is going to happen in the future. I am talking about things that have happened. Its finished. We have every country. We have Japanese, we have Russians, we have Americans, we have Swedes, we have Indians, all in these states. We are producing more and more. That's what it is. We are basically giving it to people.

Question: After bringing in the Golden Age, what is next?
Sri Bhagavan: See, the 'next' is of no consequence to me at all. Because what would have happened is, in the Golden Age, people would be happy. My only goal is to make people happy. Once that happens, it's Good Bye. They can do whatever they want. I have no other goal. It is to make people happy. That's all. After that they should be full of joy and bliss. There should no suffering. If a person is happy ­ eating, drinking, walking ­ everything is joy for him. So, whether he is driving a Bullock cart on the road, that's not my problem. But you should be happy.

Question: Can you tell us about your transformation from Vijay Kumar to Kalki Bhagavan?
Sri Bhagavan: See, there has been no psychological transformation in my consciousness. From day one, it has been the same.

Question: Who is your guru?
Sri Bhagavan: I have no guru. It is not that I was seeking enlightenment and I finally became enlightened. For me from day one it's the same thing. This Vijay Kumar to Kalki transformation happened in a place called Somangalam, Madras, where we had retreats. Some people began to see me coming in a horse ­ a vision, with a sword and all that. So they began to use the word Kalki. Slowly it began to spread. And they were composing some songs and they were singing. That's how it got stuck. We made some efforts to remove that name. But the more we made efforts the more it got stuck. Especially, people in North India refused to accept any other name.

But I am not saying that I am the Kalki of the puranas. That Kalki who is suppose to come after some 4 lakh years, when people will become so small that they will climb up a brinjal plant on a ladder. So I am not claiming all those things at all. Simply it's a name. What I am maintaining is ­ Yes, I can give Enlightenment. I have the power to give Enlightenment. This is the highest. In India it is believed that only the greatest Avatar of God can give Enlightenment. That's the general belief. You can do miracles, but giving Enlightenment is a different story. I am not claiming anything more. You come, whether you have faith or not, belief or not, I can still give it to you. That's all there is to it.

Question: Is there Mukthi? Is it possible to achieve?
Sri Bhagavan: Yes ... hundreds achieved Mukti. Thousands in fact. Not just hundreds. Its not a question of ­ can they achieve. They have achieved it. It's over. You should meet and talk to them. You must meet Mukthas.

Question: Is it possible to picturise that state of mind?
Sri Bhagavan: You can't picturise it.

Question: Do all the Mukthas have miraculous power?
Sri Bhagavan: Not exactly. Some have the power to heal and some don't have. Not that every Muktha has got the power to do something. Some have, some don't have. That depends upon what you are seeking. Some have no interest in miracles, so for such people we won't give those powers.

Question: Is it possible to eliminate Human suffering through Dhyana?
Sri Bhagavan: See, Dhyana can help reduce the suffering a little bit. Beyond that any Sadhanas are useless. All Sadhanas are only up to a point. After that the returns are not there. It's not worth it. Up to a point, yes it's OK. The only solution is Enlightenment. When Enlightenment happens you are in a state of Dhyana 24 hours.

Question: For all social, political and economical problems, is Enlightenment the solution?
Sri Bhagavan: Yes.

Question: Only solution?
Sri Bhagavan: Yes. The only solution. The ultimate solution. Let us say a man and a woman are fighting. Suppose he or she is enlightened, there is no fight. The Gundas in this Village (Varadhayapalem, Andhra Pradesh) are conducting Sathsang now. This is a place where, when I came, people told me ­ Why did you come to this place? It is such a terrible place. Full of wife-beating. I said ­ I want exactly that place. Today the Gundas are conducting sathsangs. So what has happened is transformation. They don't drink. There is no wife beating. Everything has happened. Here, water used to stagnate and there used to be cesspool everywhere. Now everybody is co-operating. So, there is drainage and water does not stagnate anywhere. There is a health revolution taking place. People have stopped drinking. There is no wife beating. There is love in the family. Everything is changing, through Enlightenment. What could not be achieved by any rural organisation has been achieved by transforming the person.

Question: What is the real meaning of Enlightenment?
Sri Bhagavan: See, to be enlightened is not to feel separate from the other. You are there. You feel you are separate from all these people. Suppose you are to become enlightened, you will say you only are the other. If you feel that way, where can there be conflict? There can only be love. Isn't it? That's all there is to it. And always there is happiness also. A happy person cannot trouble others. An unhappy person will be pinching other. Will give pain to others. After Enlightenment nobody gives trouble to another. Everybody is happy. You will find in this village, all people gathering, singing and dancing. All kinds. Caste is not a problem. Once you are Enlightened there is no caste. The Harijan, the Bramhin, all will be singing and dancing. Everything goes off. The caste is gone. Muslims dancing with Hindus ­ you can see it in this village. Everything has happened because they are in a different state. They are all helping. You don't find street fights. Completely transformed. And we had taken up this place because it was a horrible place. That's where we have proved it. Total transformation.

Every month we are having a program. At least 500 people come for Enlightenment from the local villages. People are standing in a queue, because we cannot take more than that. It is spreading very fast. Imagine the whole of India Enlightened. Then, what happens to all the problems that we are talking about? There is a coolie in this village who is Enlightened. Now, every rich man wants her to come their house and perform Kalasha Pooja in their house. It's a pride to invite her to their house now. All social dynamics have changed.

Westerners are also watching us very closely, because their interest is that, if it can be done in other in other countries then terrorism can be avoided. That is their interest. Therefore they are studying us very closely. How come people are getting transformed so suddenly? Because this does not take much time. Yesterday you were very ordinary. Today you are transformed. Just 24 hours. And it's irreversible and permanent. So what more can somebody ask for? Poor people in villages are dancing in joy and they call their dance "The dance of Freedom". Even the richest man in Karnataka cannot have 1/1000th of their joy. And of course along with this joy you will also become prosperous. The mind is so clear. Whatever they touch, it is successful.

Question: If Veerapan or Bin Laden are given the Deeksha, will they also be transformed?
Sri Bhagavan: Yes. If you bring Veerappan or Bin Laden, they'll be completely transformed. It'll be over. Anybody can be transformed. Straight from jail you can bring them. In regular jails of Andra Pradesh, we brought about tremendous transformation. Strangely their cases have been dismissed and they all have gone out also without criticising the Government (at Srikakulam). We have also had requests from other countries like Siberia to go and work in their jails.

Question: What are the means to become happy?
Sri Bhagavan: To me happiness is when you help others. But helping others is not so easy. When I do this Neuro-Biologial transformation, you naturally feel like helping others. And as you help others you become happy. You can try and see. When you help you become happy. But you must be naturally helping others, which is a state of mind.

Question: What is your expectation from the press?
Sri Bhagavan: The press must play a very constructive role in building the society. It is very often portraying negative news. It must do something very positive because it is a very powerful tool. It can really push people to do certain things. If that can be achieved it is a great thing.

Question: How is it going to be in the next 10 years?
Sri Bhagavan: I am producing Enlightened people by the hundreds everyday. Soon its going to be an explosion. I will say this is the last phase of man. It is like ­ Man has been building a house for so many thousands of years now. And 2004 to 2012 is the grahapravesham. Man has reached the final stage after all these years of struggle. You will see a very different world, which you cannot even imagine now and it will happen very fast. Very very fast.[/url]

I didn't mean that he need to accept a overwhelming situation. Look, I think it is not a good choice to avoid people. Of course it can be difficult to you to face some situations, but you can work this little by little with a psychologist, maybe a group therapy later as I said, and most important, learn to accept yourself as you are, and allow yourself to express your feelings, your emotions.

Good luck friend

Hey, I think you shouldn't avoid your problem and try to by-pass the situations that makes you feel anxious. Some people will go eternally trying to avoid some situations, but the problem will continue inside you, and as long as this question is inside you, you won't have a fulfilled life. And trust me, it is not good for anyone's health to live with an unsolved question in your subconscious. If I can give you a suggestion, and this is from my experience and from my heart, find some therapist that can help you, maybe a group therapy could help you very well. In the beginning you can be afraid like everyone else does, but don't be discouraged - nobody is perfect, accept that you need help, this doesn't make you worse than anyone else. Meditation can help some people lessen stress and anxiety, but in some cases it will only help you to be depressed.

Well, Frank says that F4 is the "ultimate" focus of consciousness, where infinity beings seems to be merged on one mind. Osho says that many people stop here, in this "mental plane", thinking that there is nothing "above". But he says that after the mental are the spiritual, the cosmic, and finally the nirvanic, where is said to happen the "extinction" of the self, and so enlightenment. One of the books that he talks about that is "Psychology of the esoteric" - you can download it in emule.

So, what do you think?

I don't know exactly the functioning of this disturb, but I believe that it can be  caused by an emotional issue that makes you anxious, and your anxiety hyper activate the sympathetic nervous system - making you sweaty. Maybe you can help yourself with meditation, calming down your mind, making you more aware of your interaction with your body. And for sure, if there is a emotional issue, you have to work on that, if this is the case, you can't cure the symptom without curing the cause. If this makes sense to you, find a psychologist to help you understand your emotions and the situations that makes you anxious.

I wish I could be of some help, good luck!

anyone else can help me plz?

I have heard of people who offer to "give" you enlightenment.  No one can give you enlightenment- you have to get it for yourself.

This is what everyone says out there, but for me this can be just another dogma. In fact enlightenment can only be given to you by a superior power, your ego can only surrender to that.

And that guy claims that without intervention from 'God', the humanity would come to and end soon. And it is too the end of the "Kali Yuga", the age of human suffering.

But my purpose posting here was that someone could actually SEE who they are, and not just speculate. I have my own speculations about it, and it doesn't solve my question.

So, PLZ, if anyone of you can actually help me in this way, I ask you this favour.

Hi ppl... I often read posts here in Astral Pulse but I never post anything... now I'm registering myself and I need some help of you.
I live in São Paulo, Brazil - Plz sorry me if I commit any mistake in my english writing.

Here is the story... Some time around April '05 I was very depressed and I got even worse after reading a book by UG Krishnamurti (at that time I have very low background in spiritual issues) and having some weird experiences - for the first time I realized that I had no soul, no concrete existence, that I was only some form of consciousness energy.
So, at that time I was very afraid about my own existence, I was experience too much anxiety and anguish. So, one day I discovered the Experience Festival website and there I read some texts about a man called Sri Kalki Bhagavan. He has a wife too, called Sri Amma Padmavati. This man calls himself an avatar of enlightenment, who is able to give deekshas, an energy given by hands imposition. This energy acts at your being liberating you from all your conditioning, and eventually leading you to enlightenment. This entire process could last for until 2 years or could be finished instantly if your "kundalini" awakes. So, his task would be to enlighten 64k human beings to promote a global quantum leap of enlightenment until 2012.

Do I believe him? I don't know. I received the energy and nothing happened until now. They have a center in India called Golden City, where is the Golden Age Foundation, the Oneness Temple and the Oneness University. They are spreading enlightened instructors all around the world promoting retreats where the deeksha is distributed to the people. These instructors have passed through a 21 days process in India that enabled them to transmit the deeksha energy through themselves.

Well, some people here claims that they've got enlightened by the deeksha and they were as skeptical as am I until now. Once a clairvoyant told me that they were "Bad" beings that were vampiring the people energy. I have no means to say exactly if they are good or bad, if they are right or deluded, and so on. Please, if anyone of you are clairvoyant or astral projectors, I wanna ask you to take a look at their picture above and find out who they are, and if I can feel safe about it.

I can give more information later if needed. Thanks for you help.

More info:
http://www.trueawakening.org/
http://www.livinginjoy.com/
http://www.yatraexpedition.org/ (Spanish)

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