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#1
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Poll
September 12, 2002, 05:00:19
1.  Have you ever seen an unidentifited flying object (UFO) ,?
2.  Has anyone you yourself know seen a UFO?
3.  Have you seen  or had contact with an E.T. , or know some on that has?
4.  Have you ever seen/heard/felt a ghost?
5.  Have you ever wittnesed or experenced  any kind of "psychic" event.
6.  DO you beleve in God, or any form of a god?
7. DO you beleve in an after life?



#2
Welcome to Astral Chat! / War with paint, Paintball
September 09, 2002, 13:37:53
you want a real fun game? its not for ps2 or x-box.
its real life paintball. real pain, real defeat, and really sweet victory.
anyone here play paint ball?  I'v been covered in wealts for a month (I play ever weekend) and have never had so much fun in my life (besides astral projection). the other day, I "killed" one man, capured another, and singlehandedly (my partner was "dead") took down the rest of the other team. you dont know what you got untill you take a hostage, while haveing no ammo, take his ammo, and defeat his team with his stuff.  fun, fun,a little pain and more fun.  I started with a bunch of pump guns, but now we play with some excessively powerful equment. someone is gonna bleed when we play. I play untill everyone, one by one , gives up for lack of ammo,
they know they cant win, or their on the groung in a painful daze.
some people dont see the logic of playing  with guns that can bust your skin open, but if we dont people dont play to the best of their ability.
the last round of the last game I played, it came down to me and my cousion, we both have 4 or 5 years experence playing, the most of any in my group.
our guns will hurt enough to make you give up at 20 yards. we were in a feild, and one of us broke to the car. the last few shoots took place at the car, me and him about four feet away. both weilding auto guns. He shot me in my face, my head was ringing , and I shot him back. Mind you we were using the car for cover as well. I poped him in the lip. He was out, I was driping blood and paint from my face.  he was on the ground in intense pain for two munites, I was laughing becouse of the fun we had. his face looked like he had a stroke, half his mouth was paralized and lip swolen about three inches ( we didnt have masks on, just the glasses.the third guy's car was covered in paint, all over. we play with more people, but a few had to leave early (they got hurt).  its kinda pricy to play ( 5-8 cents a shot after you get the guns, masks,extra equment and gas for the guns) the guns and masks cost from $60 to hundreds and hundreds. I drop a couple of hundred bucks a time, at least. you shoot thousands of shots, so it does add up. I play with skill, experence, and I can "remote view" so I know where there at. being psychic in a situation like a gun fight doesgive you an edge. it was the couse of me wining one of the rounds we played. I have got some bad wounds, but I hurt everyone more than I get hurt, so I win.  
I dont play at paint ball places eather, I go to the woods around my city.
dont go to parks, you can get fined, your weapons taken, or worse yet ,hurt some little kid.    always wear at least glasses, masks if you can. dont take your mask of in a game - EVER .  


...anyone in the Rockford Illinois / south wissconsion area wana fight my team?  we can do pumps or autos.

its more fun than  a gun fight in a lucid dream, I'll tell you that.


#3
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Ectoplasm
September 19, 2002, 08:02:50
Ectoplasma


1. get into a quiet room, no body in/around the house (absolute quiet & no distractions is a must)
2. sit in a comfortable chair, relax, let your heart slow and your mind still.
slow your breathing , and relax.
3. stare, or gaze onto a wall. look through it, miles away. look with relaxed eyes, dont look at the wall, but beyond it. keep your relaxed stare.
4. "will" the area your looking at to "pull" astral mater into it,  dont force it, but allow it to come together by calmly "willing" a pull in that area.
5. keep doing this, even after you see the cloud.

 ... at first it will look like heat waves, keep doing it. It will soon look like a blueish haze, keep at it. after some time, it will appear as a thick fog, or cloud, blue/grey. "will" , or think this cloud to spin counter-clock wise, so it gets more compact, if you dont, ectoplasm will fill the room,  dispersed evenly.

Then you can ...
put the ecto around your self, and lift yourself into the air,
put the ecto around your self, and other people can not see you,
form the ecto into an object, and "will" the object into reality
(you need to put the object somewhere when you make it,  or
you may not find it)  {make it on a table in frunt of you, for example}.

you must relax your eyes, or close them all together.
It took me two hours of intense will to make enough ecto to form an object ... keep at it!

#4
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Philosopher's Stone
September 19, 2002, 07:29:24
it is said that the Philosophers' stone was a "stone which is not a stone" .
This substance, which literally carried hundreds of other names, such as
"powder of projection" , the "virgins milk", the " shade of the sun" ...
not only could it help transmute base metals into gold, it reputedly could soften glass,  render its owner invisible at will, or give an alchemist the ability to levatate. it is also reported that the stone enables conversation with angels and the understanding of the language of animals.

I am an alchemist / metaphysic scientist, I believe the Philosophers' stone is the ability to control
ectoplasm ... which I have found to consist with the ability to create objects from thought, induced invisibility, and levitation.

conversation with angels and the understanding of the language of animals
is today known simply as telepathy.

I believe the cartoon "dragon ball z"  is  of the same consept.
the 7 dragon balls are: the 7 charakas in the body.
the "dbz" dragon is: the"serpent of fire", another possible name for the stone.
the "dbz" dragon's wish is: the mastory of psychic/ectoplasmic forces.


#5
Its just that its so extreamly, vividly real, that it seems more real than real.
Trees and plants glow with color, the light from the sun is bright and reflects
brightly off the sidewalks, houses, and streets, 3-5 times brighter than awake, but clear, crisp, and your eyes dont hurt ,squint or blur at all.

...I want to merge with someone in the astral , to share knowlege
and experence, maybe even both of us learn more psychic abilitys.
Astralc,Blue Light Mystic,Jason, anyone up for this?


#6
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Poll
September 15, 2002, 01:58:23
1. 3 yes 4 no  (1 dont know)
2. 4 yes 4 no  
3. 3 yes 5 no
4. 6 yes 1 no  (1?)
5. 8 yes
6. 4 yes with 4 undecided or no
7. 7 yes with 1 undecided

...my post would put another yes on each question.


#7
When I was younger, about six years ago , I had just learned to remote view and use clairvoyence. The remote viewing was fuzzy, and the color blured at first. the best i could get it was to see a pitcure like I had tears in my eyes. I could see where I wanted to view. the clairvoyence was ok. i could feel an object that I intended to, even feel the texture and tempature inside the objects. but not any more than one object at a time. I was sixteen.

about two years ago, I found I could clairvoyently feel a larger area. I could feel about a three foot area at once. I could vivedly feel the surface of, say , a wall . every bump and the slikness of the paint. the inside of the wall, everything. I used the clairvoyence at the same time I ever used psychokinesis. my remote viewing was to the point where I could watch my house, in the prospective of 1/25 . not that I seen it as small, but I could see/feel an area around my house five or six blocks around as well as my place.

now I can Astral Project in a trance or dream, experment for about a minute or two before I need to return (to retain memory), and with a very high sucess rate.  I have learned to project awake, unrelaxed to any wanted place/person. however, I can  not move like in a normal projection, this is more like remote viewing. I can jump from place to place in the remote view, but its like my eyes are almost clear. I can see everything like ita comeing from near the conner of my eye. very clear, all in all. my clairvoyence is so well, that I cant sometimes see perefctly with my eyes tightly shut. I can see in the dark, things look like "heat vision" , execpt nearer objects are colored diffrent than farther objects.
yellow up close , then from shades of yellow to shades of orange-red, to red-orange to red. yellow is two feet, red is nearer to eight to ten feet. everything turns into shades of dark red to red-black after ten about feet.

I still only see mostly white in auraic sight, color mostly when people are sick.
I can change the shape of my aura (in a mirror), and have healed people with  my aura energy before.  

BLM, lets project together sometime. I have done it before, I want to project and talk about how cool it was with someone who did the same out of body.
maybe you could remote view  kind-of-project ? it would be a fun exercise.      
        ...or anyone elese that can & wants to.

#8
Welcome to Astral Chat! / War with paint, Paintball
September 12, 2002, 01:35:10
small 9 gram bottles. you just throw them away your when done. there about a half a dollor each.

#9
Welcome to Astral Chat! / War with paint, Paintball
September 11, 2002, 15:16:13
can we do it so it dosent hurt? sure. the guns I have, have a knob that adjusts the speed of the balls. my group is just hurtful becouse we all agree to be. a coat is like a flak jaket ... if you want to wear a coat in the heat of the day.  you can always make your own rules like "one hit your out" or one head shot your out" , I like the "your not dead untill you cant take the pain" rule.  my people sometimes shoot under a flag of truce, or before everyone elese is ready, thats why everyone elese uses the equment as powerful as they can get it, we try to kill each other ( inflict extream amounts of pain).
you can get the guns to the point where a face shot wont even phase you.
its all up to how you want to play.  it costs a lot of money (we have spent over a thousand for guns alone, the paint costs about $26 a box , (500 shot)a box fills up about two people. everyone refills time after time.
a ton of money, a shitload of pain, and an awsome amount of fun.
...you ever jump up on three people, and take them all down?( in a game) thats fun.   I love my gun, its an old stingray. we (me & my gun) are able to shoot about 30 feet futher than the other, newer gunes (the eradicators)
the 12 oz  CO2s rock! and I have shotgun ammo belts to hold the 9 gram co2s , for the little guns, it looks cool.

#10
" My gosh, I will be so glad when I can do these things. I have decided to start setting aside a specific time each day and stick to one technique until I am successful. "    (Blossom)
        the hardest part of any projection (for me and a lot of people) is to remember when we get back. when you try , Blossom, do it with the intent of comeing back as soon as you relize you have done it.  and the energy is very imporintant too.

so do whatever energy "powering up" thing you have learned, attempt to project (as you are going to sleep or in a trance, or whatever technique  you have learned) , and return as soon as your "out" , it will be a thousand times easier to recall your first few projections.

1.power up   2.relax your body 100% (like the instant before you start to dream) 3. do the astral projection technique you intend to use 4. come back as soon as you get free from your body (less than 10 seconds  out)

I have just learned this myself, just over a year ago. some nights I would project (and instantly return ) as many as over twenty times.  But I am new to this too, I can only stay out a short time (a minute or so) before I need to return. I could stay out longer, but I get no recall when I do that. I wont even remember the exit.

the fastest way, I have learned, is   1. to become 100% relaxed, so you cant move your body anymore  2. place your self in your solar plexus . your prospective will be of being in your core, the middle of your body. 3. exit by willing your self out.    

flight is just as easy as wanting to "go that way", and your astral self will be "pulled" by your physical body. you must leave the room/house to have any cool effects (sometimes your are blinded when close to body, you cant fly, its extreamly hard to move, and you move love your in glue)

when you DO do this, make 100% you are not dreaming when you wake up.
you will often find thet your in a dream of being awake, everything is normal, and you really cant tell the diffrence unless you do a compleat dream check. I like to read, you will know very soon if your dreaming or not. (writeing in a dream jurnal may also be part of the dream) dreams such as these are you projecting into the astral form of your house, city , or  world.  these are called "False Awakeings" or FAs .



the power lines feel like tree sap going through. and in the projections, they would seem to resist me as well, moveing as I forced my way through them.
and you just seem to fly into them without aiming or intending to, like a tree that jumps in frunt of a drunk driver.

as long as were on the astral projection into space talk ...
I was projecting to a star once, I flew as fast as I could. but I instantly was there, looking at my astral self still flying to the star. my "there" astral self sent something (it looked like pulses of white thought waves) to the "flying" astral self. and both bacame aware of each other, and I returned.  

I was also projecting one time, I and I could see other astral travelers. hundreds if not thousands of them comeing to earth from another star system. the ones I saw were "E.T.s" and all comeing from the same place.
they had the spirit form of near humans. I returned.

projected into my girlfriends house, I did this a few times when we were together.

projected into a dream of my uncle's one time, helped him induce a lucid dream, then left.


got out of body once (22 times this night), and got into the bathroom and looked into the mirror to see my own trancelusent pale face. as soon as I would se it, I would be back in body, and repeat the trip to the bathroom mirror. the 23rd time I was really awake.

Flying around in any projection is among the best experences you can have. when it works, your astral voice is awsome, in the sence that when you hear is, you will be awe struck. astral sex ...  havent got to yet.
jumping off the roof of your house is cool too.

the projections are so real, so vivid, that when you do project, you need to do an "awake test" to make sure your not awake. I stop and make sure im really in astral (becouse it is so real) before I bang my head against the window full force and am fliping through the air outside.  


!! the one of the easiest ways to astral project ,Blossom , is to creat a lucid dream, or to turn a dream lucid , and just want to project. as soon as you think about astral projection in a lucid dream, your out.

" ... I limit my experiences to my own, and only seek others if they drop in on me when i am already on the astral plane."  (astralc)

lets start projecting to the same place to see if we can find each other, and get a message through. anyone one, just to confirm we did it , via the net.
wouldnt it be cool if we could merge and both gain the knowlege of both of us?  the face on mars would be a good place to meet, or the other ruins up there.      lets do this a few times before we attempt to merege though.

and blossom, about thinking your a nut, we all questioned our sanity when the unreal became real, and the unatainable was in our grasp.
when dreams became true experences , and this world became just one of a few that we are all in at the same time.    ...it can be hard to adjust.



#11
Welcome to Astral Chat! / I was just wondering.....
September 09, 2002, 13:47:48
Why yes it is. One time I intended to astral project and see if I could scare my mom, thinking I would appear as a ghost. I didnt relize that she would be asleap by the time I "got out" . She was in the other room, and when I found her there I "awoke" her from her body. we both flew away from the house laughing (it is extreamly joyful to just be out of body. ) anyway, the next day she confirmed it. its wieard, she astral projected once when she was little (19 or so) and told me about it a few years ago.I became interested and learned it. I have become pretty good at it now, and when I got her out, that was only her second astral experence.

but yes, it can and dose happen. you just have to have that intent when you get ready to project.  my mom didnt even know I was gonna go astral that night.

#12
Welcome to Astral Chat! / VIDEO GAMES
September 09, 2002, 13:29:06
ASHFO,  do you know any good , free MMORPGS?
I have no cerdit card but love multiplayer rpgs.

you want a real fun game? its not for ps2 or x-box.
its real life paintball. real pain, real defeat, and really sweet victory.
anyone here play paint ball?  I'v been covered in wealts for a month (I play ever weekend) and have never had so much fun in my life (besides astral projection). the other day, I "killed" one man, capured another, and singlehandedly (my partner was "dead") took down the rest of the other team. you dont know what you got untill you take a hostage, while haveing no ammo, take his ammo, and defeat his team with his stuff.  fun, fun,a little pain and more fun.  I started with a bunch of pump guns, but now we play with some excessively powerful equment. someone is gonna bleed when we play. I play untill everyone, one by one , gives up for lack of ammo,
they know they cant win, or their on the groung in a painful daze.
some people dont see the logic of playing  with guns that can bust your skin open, but if we dont people dont play to the best of their ability.
the last round of the last game I played, it came down to me and my cousion, we both have 4 or 5 years experence playing, the most of any in my group.
our guns will hurt enough to make you give up at 20 yards. we were in a feild, and one of us broke to the car. the last few shoots took place at the car, me and him about four feet away. both weilding auto guns. He shot me in my face, my head was ringing , and I shot him back.Mind you we were using the car for cover as well. I poped him in the lip. He was out, I was driping blood and paint.  he was on the ground in pain for two munites, I was laughing becouse of the fun I had. his face looked like he had a stroke, half his mouth was paralized and lip swolen about three inches ( we didnt have masks on, just the glasses.the third guy's car was covered in paint, all over. we play with more people, but a few had to leave early (they got hurt).  its kinda pricy to play ( 5-8 cents a shot after you get the guns, masks,extra equment and gas for the guns) the guns and masks cost from $60 to hundreds and hundreds. I drop a couple of hundred bucks a time, at least. you shoot thousands of shots, so it does add up. I play with skill, experence, and I can remote view so I know where there at. I have got some bad wounds, but I hurt everyone more than I get hurt, so I win.  
I dont play at paint ball places eather, I go to the woods around my city.
dont go to parks, you can get fined, your weapons taken, or worse yet ,hurt some little kid.    always wear at least glasses, masks if you can. dont take your mask of in a game - EVER .  


...anyone in the Rockford Illinois / south wissconsion area wana fight my team?  we can do pumps or autos.

metaphysic@rockford.com



#13
False awakeings. When I first started  to project, I would often (not as many now) have F.A. s, sometimes as many as 20 . I used to want to see if anyone wanted to switch bodys, just to see if we could do it. Twice I woke up in another persons body, they were trying to project, it would be only a few seconds and I could see the room they were in , not mine by a long shot.
the longest dream I have ever had was one that seemed to last two hours, and it was lucid.  I projected once, came beck to a F.A. of me getting up, two more F.A.s of me getting up, then a wieard experence.
I woke up in a little boys body, in germany in the 30's or 40's .
I (he) was with his famaily. I was also trying to remember everything I could, (a projection goal of mine) the goal stuck, but I forgot or didnt know I was projecting. I explored the house, and then played with my siblings. after a long while I got in a truck with my dad and uncle and went somewhere. I remember the trip, the things I saw on the way, the people we talked to. we went there (my dream jornal is about 10 pages of this F.A.) and went back home. hours more of playing inside and out. I went to sleep. woke up  ... in the same body, did things for another day, went to sleep ( it would be a lot to write, a lot of things happened, it was a busy few days for the kid ) woke up again, and mid way through this day I awoke to a F.A. of my (me ,this physical body and ego )house. one or two more F.A.s of this and I was finally awake.

The oobe its self was cool to, I flew around my city, and into my aunts home, returnen to my body and then the F.A.s and wieard timetraveling body possissing experence, and more F.A.s    

about three days, half a day for the sleep, and F.A.s , two and a half days of being someone elese in someother time.  the boy was blond, about 8 years old. and I recorded very many things, very very many things.

after this I didnt project with the intent of entering another body.  
I do want to go to the astral "hall of records"  though

also worth saying: when I was about six, I had an instance where my ears were ringing, and I knew something was up. years later I recall seeing myself, from 30 feet away, from the sky. I remote viewed myself, or gained a spirits memory of this event, Im not sure. just another odd psychic thing.
I seen my self, as a 6 year old, from the prospective of the sky (just under tree hight) ... and other times too.
any idea about this one? this happen to you guys ever?

#14
I normally have been unable to project off of Earth's atmosphere because if I try to, I've run into very frightening, thick, black power line looking objects that always seem to appear to scare and therefore prevent me from leaving!
(blue light mystic)

seems like the power lines attract us, like a magnet. I would fly within 10 feet of them, and get stuck, force my way through, and then up. God ... isnt it great to look down from a thousand feet while floating? IT just gives me a surge of joy and pleasure to be up there ,free, truely free.


Anyway, you said that yours had golden dots? Well, that's really neat then! Do you have any idea what those golden dots might've been that you've seen? I believe that since there is no true empty space anywhere, (because all space is filled by atoms and molecules and probably even smaller things) what you were seeing was some kind of energy particle which probably exists within black holes.
(BLM)

I was above the event horizon (thats the right name, I think) of the black hole.
below me was black, I saw a very few (like 3) golden dots below me, they were atoms being sucked into the hole. as they were excited, or speeding up, they would shine . I could not see them inside the hole, but around it, above the horizon. Below me were a few, in frunt of me they were spaced out, and not too many, only a few hundred. beyond the ones infrunt of me, less than a thousand miles, they appered more close together, thats just becouse I was looking at more of them in the same space. beyond them, even more, more golden light than darkness. beyond that they almost touch. and beyond that, like a 1/4 of an A.U. , they were a constant light.
golden up close,   and gold with  gold + a red tent farther off.  
It was swerling counter clockwise very slowly. I estmate it at a 1/2 A.U. around, and its entrails going out (or comeing from) about 3/4 og an A.U. .
An A.U. is a meserment of distance. 1 A.U. is the distance between the earth and our sun.
when I fly really fast and try to stop, I can feel inerta in my astral body, but I flet no pull from this black hole.  I didnt even think of entering it, I will try that some time.
We should try to project together sometime, meet up and play.
I have helped people project (my mom) while in astral form.
Its sooo fun to project, can you imanage doing it with friends?
we would need to go to the same place ...


#15
I just want to talk about a very pleasing oobe I had a few weeks ago.  
I learned to project about a year ago, avrage 1 AP a week, anyway ...

I was watching TV, about black holes, I decide to go and see one.
I am a little conserened that even an astral body would get stuck in a black hole, but I went knowing that I could make more astral bodys, lose a little info at the most. I project, get out of my house and into space. to the black hole in the center of our miliky way.  I didnt recall all of the oobe untill a few days ago. I can not even describe the great beauty.  golden dots of light from atoms being sucked in, not so many close up, but in the distance you could see horizon after horizon of increasingly more golden dots, with a black backgrond. like waves of gold flakes on  a black velvet sea.  A dvd could do it justest, not words.    
I wish I could paint like the greatest artist, to put this so all could see.
calm, quiet, and gold light like a forest with christmas trees,all lit up, streaching into the distance untill the lights merge into a glow.

...plus I just learned to project awake and unrelaxed today, very very cool.

Metaphysic