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This may have been an optical thing...  If you are in a dark room and keep your eyes open all sorts of wierd things will start to happen. It can sometime look like "noise" on a TV. Colours start to change. This is just my opinion by the way. I am not an expert.

There is a phrase which, if used a few times by the original author, would have caused the post to somewhat less offensive.  In my opinion Nameless One was deliberately trying to generate the response that he/she has gained from us. Maybe he or she is craving the energy associated with gaining attention from others. Anyway, the phrase I refer to is a powerful one and is very simple; "In my opinion". The use of this phrase immediately demonstrates that the persons words are made in a genuine and understanding way. They indicate the maturity of the person and the acceptance by that person that their "views" may not be correct just because they believe them to be.

I am surprised that so many of the regular forum members have risen to the original authors post as it clearly was intended to be provocative. Nameless One is probably laughing his or her head off at this point......  and this was, in my opinion, their original intention (notice the humility that the use of the phrase conveys).

Anyway, as I am here now I suppose a response to Nameless One won't take too many keypushes from my side so here it is:-

Go look in the mirror!  Now you have met God!  Get used to it! 

My personal expereince with this particular track is that it has played a major part in facilitating lucid dreaming. Generally, if I listen to this before going to sleep (sleep will normally occur during the track) I will find myself lucid dreaming later in the sleep. In theory projection can be achieved from lucid dreams. This is something that I have not mastered yet.

Here is a new link for you....    will last another 7 days.

Link: http://www.yousendit.com/download/RcJQuj0c4oB5TA%3D%3D

It sounds like a pretty tough time. For us astral projection tryers it would be priceless to find a way of simulating how to get to that state of mind & body at will.  Any ideas?

Hi Lily,

I love your post.  It sounds as though you have things pretty much in hand there.  I wish I could say the same from my side. I have lucid dreams but they happen so infrequently that when they do happen I get too excited by the fact that I am there that I then forget to try projecting or doing anything else of significance other than running around prodding things and people to see if they can see me etc. I am sure that if I can increase the frequency of my dreams then the novelty will wear off enough for me to project.  Do you regularly project from Lucid dreams Lily?

A fine question indeed and one that can only be answered by those people who have successfully done it. Those who have not done it do not know how easy it is; all they know is that their journey is generally frustrating and time consuming. I have now been trying for a year.  I reckon that I am now a yellow belt in that I have, since I started, managed to get to the point where I am having occasional lucid dreams.

Here is the file guys.  It will be there for 7 days or 100 downloads...  Should be listened to in a quiet room on headphones only... Don't put it on your car stereo for your journey to work!

http://www.yousendit.com/download/M7EnQFyaBId5TA%3D%3D

Enjoy. 

Here is the file guys.  It will be there for 7 days or 100 downloads...  Should be listened to in a quiet room on headphones only...


http://www.yousendit.com/download/M7EnQFyaBId5TA%3D%3D

Enjoy. 

Okay, I have signed up for the service.  I will post the link here as soon as I have uploaded it.

This sounds like an interesting exercise I must say.  Do you successfully project?  If so you could start the catalogue off youself. Maybe then others could add to it from their experiences and it could be a new sticky title.

Thank you for your ideas here guys.   Maybe I will consider some kind of mediumistic training. Not quite sure where to start but will think about it.

Why are there fakers then?  are they lost spirits?

It is a track produced by a chap called Dustin Ewan (an old Jonas attendee).  It is in MP3 format and is 48MB in size. I will have a think about how to get this online for you guys.

I don't believe that the meetings I have had have been with negative entities (I can tell).  Are the people I meet there in my lucid dreams real (as in the spirit of the person who died) or are they created by me?

Just a quick one...  Nearly all of my lucid dreams involve me meeting dead members of my family.  What does this mean? Is this normal?

Since the demise of the Ridgeway forum I have been at a loss for general help in the areas of Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming. I found a number of forums and I have been running them in parralel (three to be precise). I made the same post on all three forums a few days ago in an attempt to find "home". I am pleased to say that Astral Pulse (and more importantly the people who populate it) came out way on top in terms of engagingness, responsiveness etc. One of the other forums purported to be a home for people with such interests  but a moderator quickly moved my post to another sub forum in which the last post was some three weeks ago. The other I posted on did come back with some feedback but there only seem to be two or maybe three active members.

I would like to thank those of you who responded to my post.  New members (particularly sensitive ones) can feel very unwanted if they make a post for the first time and get no feedback from the rest of the membership.  This happened to me here just after the Jonas forum vanished into the Anal Plane and I, as I suspect many others who join forums, didn't come back for a considerable time. A single response to a Newbie post makes all the difference even if the response just says Hi.

Regards,
Russell

I had heard that one was able to see people in the physical when projecting too.  Can we have some clarification on this? 

So based on the last couple of yesses does that mean that the military uses people with AP skills to go have a look at what is going on elsewhere?

Well guys, Jonas does have an active site and forums etc.  It is well hidden and is still in the process of attracting members but it is there and so are most of the posts from the previous forum.  You can find it at www.omconnect.com

Don't go running to it thinking that it will solve all your problems though.  Make use of IE7's multiple tabs...  keep a few forums open at the same time from different sites.

Does projecting feel pretty much the same as being awake?  If I mastered it could I go almost anywhere? Could I pop down to the local pub (if it was still open) and see the people in there drinking?

Hi chaps,

I eventually recovered the bin-aural hour long episode that Dustin put together a year ago from an old PC. Last night I listened to it in bed before going to sleep and left it running a lot longer than normal. Normally I get about half way through and turn it off because I am too tired to listen right through (a lifestyle issue).

Anyway, I haven't had any lucid dreams (that I have remembered) for some four months now. Obviously listening a bit deeper into the Dustin sounds did the job this time. I had a trail of lucid dreams and they were phenomenal. Those of you who have experienced lucidity in dreams will know what I mean.

Toward the end of my final lucid dream I decided to observe the transition between lucid dream consciousness and waking consciousness. I found myself truly astounded at how tiny the gap seemed to be between the two. This made me ponder why it seems so difficult to go back the other way. I would be interested to hear your views on this. I have yet to astrally project and seem to completely forget to try this in my lucid dreams (I have tried many other approaches to projecting but have yet to succeed). I did try once to project from a lucid dream but it did not work and I quickly found myself awake.

I am making some serious headway with the dreaming. If anyone has some pointers at this point it would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Russell

Since the beginning of this year (when I discovered that my late father had regularly practised OBE's) I have been trying to Astral Project. I joined the Jonas Ridgeway forum and then bought a book by Robert Bruce. I tried and tried. Nothing. Every time I went to sleep I would think about projecting. I would think about it during the day too. I downloaded some binaural sounds and tried these aswell. Still nothing. My working life then got somewhat busier and my attempts became fewer.

Three weeks ago I was having a lay in one Saturday morning (a long lay in!). Suddenly, for the first time in my life (as far as I can remember), I became fully conscious in a dream. I was as conscious as I am now. It was incredible. I was able to fly and interact with the environment. I ran up to people and animals in my dream and danced around waiving and talking to them; asking them if they could see me. It was incredible and fantastic. Then I remembered that I had read in Robert Bruce's book that it was possible to project from a lucid dream (I assumed that I was in such a dream). Anyway, I tried. I closed my eyes and thought "Project". I tried this a few times. All that happened was a "blinking" of consciousness. A quick blank then back to the dream. Eventually my dream ended (after a projection attempt) and I was awake in bed in total astonishment.

I thought this was a one off event. It happened again a couple of weeks later during another Saturday morning sleeping marathon. This time I had listened to the binaural music whilst going off to sleep earlier in the morning.

I don't know why this is suddenly starting to happen to me. I don't know what is triggering it. I could really do with advice as to what may have caused my breakthrough and how I may be able to gain more control over it.

I hope that I have posted this in the right place.

Russell

I just wanted to say hi to everyone here. I just found the forum having been a regular attendee of the recently deceased Jonas Ridgeway site. I hope to contribute on a regular basis and to become part of this community.