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T.L.

I found your post very encouraging. I find my mind is so uncontrollable at times. I am afraid I have a mental illness. I have always been interested in OBE's but never sustained one for very long. I have begun meditating every day and I hope it helps 'relax' my mind and give me the ability to not lose control of my thoughts.

I have thought about doing the same sort of thing. Sometimes I find people I know do not understand what life really is. People I have known all my life are concentrating to much on non-important things. If you have not read "The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" I highly suggest you do. Do you understand what the goal of an enlightened person is? It seems to me you are being selfish and are only caring about yourself. Maybe thats what is stopping you from becoming enlightened.

Many find that while smoking Cannabis they do not remember their dreams. I am not sure the technical aspects of it but that is just what happens.

I also am a Cannabis user. Not an everyday smoker.

From my experience I believe we must look at what happens when you are under the influence of the drug. I believe people will sort of get "locked" inside their head. I find when I am high I do not pay attention to the world around me. I get trapped in thought inside my head. Lately when I get high I try to pay attention to my senses I am actually feeling. Things like touch, sight, etc. I believe this can help to continue having vivid dreams while having THC in your system.

Do you currently meditate? Have you ever thought about it?

Scene: Night time in an unfamiliar town. Houses and businesses lined the streets with cement sidewalks and no grass to be seen.

Me and my girlfriend were driving around an unfamiliar town trying to get home. We were lost. I took a left turn down a dark street. As we go forward I suddenly plummet down while she somehow stays above. As I am falling I am looking up at her thinking about how much I will miss her when I die. As I lay under water she comes and saves me. One cop then shows up and accuses me of being under the influence of a drug because that is the only way I could not have noticed the signs warning of road repair. I deny this and the cop hands me a ticket. It was an unnecessarily long piece of paper and tells me if I just admit to my wrong doings and sign the paper he can get us home. I say I will not sign it. (Dream gets blurry).

Two more cops show up including one woman and are talking to my girlfriend. I ask to see their IDs and badges. They get noticeably nervous and I realize they are not cops and that I am also Dreaming. (Dream becomes lucid) Me and my girlfriend get separated. I am walking along side a row of homes and hear the four of them coming. I hide myself as they walk passed because they are trying to get me also. When they are gone I see a cat. The cat resembles my own cat but very very skinny. At first the cat is wary of me but I then begin to pet it and ask it where they took my girlfriend. The cat then leads me towards a home that looks no different than all the other homes on the block. As I am in front of the home I notice my girlfriend through cracks in the front steps of the home. She is locked in the basement. As I come to her I see tears in her eyes and I know she needs me. I tell her I am going to save her and get her out of there. While still looking at her I notice activity at the front door. An old lady is inside and I begin to walk away from the home so I do not look suspicious. She was complaining to someone about something. I then get very nervous and wake up. 

The dream started where I was moving into a new apartment with 3 guy friends and 1 friend that was a girl. It was a very dirty place and for some reason I was hungry and it felt like I hadn't ate much all day. I finally ate something and I believe it was a few sticks of celery and a glass of milk. After eating it gets a little blurry but I know I was worried about my girlfriend (was not there in the dream) and one of my friends (new roomate) being together behind my back. My new roomates then said they just saw a mouse and were all looking for it. After I found out there was mice I wanted to look at the rooms that I would be sleeping in. I went around and looked at the first 2 rooms and they were both very small. I then went into a very big room which had a weird design. The walls had a pane of glass that ran around the whole room but was just a strip around the base. It was obviously the best room. The girl roomate said she had already taken this room. There was a door on the other end that I guessed in the dream led to outside which the girl roomate could not get open. While we were sitting in there the girl roomate started to come on to me. She said I know you want me I can tell by the way you look at me. She then threw me on the ground and tried to kiss me and I put my hand over my mouth so she only kissed the back of my hand. I then left the room and found that my apartment was now having a huge party. There was a bunch of people I didn't know including black men with those winter beanies that cover your entire face. I also saw people I did know but when I tried to talk to them it was like they didn't know me. They were not people I knew very well but people who should at least remember me. After this I am thinking about my girlfriend again and I over hear people saying "MyName, is pathetic". I don't know what it was about but I was thinking I was being blind to the fact my girlfriend was cheating behind my back. After this I head out to the back yard. I don't know where it came from but there were many people in the back yard getting drunk. The party was very loud and sure enough the land lord of the place yells from her place that she is going to call the police. Everyone says lets get out of here and go to another party. I am glad they are all leaving and they clear out very quickly jumping over the fences and stuff. While I am walking I see a little girl maybe 6 to 10 years old in a nice dress laying on the ground. I ask her how she got here and she said how. It is a little blurry now but I believe it was her aunt or her aunt's friend brought her and left her. I said we have to get you home and she just ran away from me.

Somehow I ended up being fully conscious. I knew what I had to do to have an out of body experience. I had to open my eyes with my mind. I forced them open to something very hard to describe. It was like blackness but it was silvery. I heard a loud popping noise when I opened my eyes and sort of felt pain when I got them open. My body began to raise up and I got out of my body which I never saw but I ended up getting excited and then the experience ended.

The weird thing is now I can't remember when I became conscious. For some reason I have a feeling this happened right before I found that little girl laying on the ground in my dream. I am not sure though if it happened before or after that. I know me finding that girl on the ground was during the same dream as the party I described. When I was sitting down to type this when I thought of helping that girl on the ground it brought tears to my eyes and I don't know why...

White Crystal Mirror
Red Eastern Castle of Turning
Earth family- Signal      Clan- Sky

I dedicate in order to reflect
Universalizing order
I seal the matrix of endlessness
With the crystal tone of cooperation
I am guided by the power of heart


Tone 12 Crystal
Seal of the Day, Destiny

White Mirror (ETZNAB) Reflects and emphasizes Endlessness.
The seal of the day is the basis of life destiny, with power of the solar tribe.
Kin 38 of 260 day cycle(20 wavespells of 13 tones).

I have a question for all those who can experience the astral commonly. I am just wondering how much television do you watch in a week? And how many times do you visit the astral, on average, in a week?

If you did have such powers why would you want to use them to STOP a person's heart? Why not work to do something good?

Novice: I believe right now during this time period there are a lot more things to worry about. It is much easier currently to forget what life is truly about. We get caught up in the material things. Making money is much more important then caring for your fellow man.

I believe there are just more temptations now that will make you forget about your life and fantasize about living another.  Parents don't even have time to look after their own children anymore, but they might get to drive a Mercedes Benz. That is what life is all about, right?

Very interesting posts in this thread. I would like to believe the idea that we have learned from our past experiences in past lives. Currently it is just hard for me to do so because I just feel clueless.

I have a problem imagining the short time of our current lives could make us who we are. When we are young children we carry some of the same traits right now. Maybe things we have experienced before, at whatever point in time, are easier now for us to learn from and maybe we are able to use that knowledge more quickly then a past life.

Right now I am starting to believe in reincarnation. My life currently I feel like I don't even belong in this time period. So many more things to worry about in this world now then hundreds of years ago.

I think we have to look at life like this. All things come to an end at some point. With most things in nature we can make a prediction but never know exactly what nature holds.With weather predictions sometimes it is a little off, sometimes it is pretty close. It is hard to predict exactly what is going to happen because we can't. We have absolutely no control over it.

So what you should think about is if you look at the weather forecast for the next day, are you going to bring a raincoat? Or risk becoming ill because there was only a chance of showers that day?

I was down doing laundry today in my apartment complex. I was just sitting there looking on my phone playing tetris or something and for some reason I just have a feeling to listen to something and I hear what seems like is coming from near the dryers but i can hear it perfectly.. "MyName, I am going to eat you". I got really scared. It made me think I am going crazy or something. I am thinking it was just a voice in my head but I never experienced this before. Only before going to sleep sometimes have I been able to "hear" a voice. I don't know but tonight when I was in that laundry room was the first night I haven't been in front of a computer doing something or going to class walking around so many people. The first time I have truely been alone with nothing to occupy my mind.

Well I do miss my parents home a lot right now, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
I believe this is the closest I have come to having a conscious OBE.

I have had dreams where I would run up to my body in my own bed but that was just a dream. This was when I first learned about OBEs


I like your avatar dingo. It is from Donnie Darko, correct?

Last night I went to sleep on my stomach like I usually do. I was having a dream that I was at a house I had never been too but I was partying with a lot of people I knew. During the party somehow DEA agents came and came into the house and took 4 people outside. Somehow it seemed like everyone disappeared from the party and myself and a few others were the only ones being searched by these agents. After this somehow I was just back inside the party and all the people were back. I was getting angry because I said how is this possible that all you people are back after these agents just came and only got us! I guess this is when I knew it was a dream.. I thought about the agents again and a truck that was one of theirs came busting through the wall straight toward me, I concentrated so hard on it and I was able to throw it back out of the party with my mind.

As soon as the truck was thrown out I went into the signs of starting and OBE. I am not sure if it was just a dream or if it was real, but I heard the noises and All I saw for a few moments was very nice colors and a triangle (in the center of my view) spinning in circles very quickly. After this was happening my vision became black again I believe and I knew it was my time to try and leave my body.

I just flew right out of my body and It felt amazing, I can't really describe how it felt. After being out of my body for what seemed like a few seconds I got very excited knowing what was happening.

I knew I had to stop being excited or it would end, but I think it already did at this point because As I tried to fly out the window I noticed that I was what looked like to be my bedroom in my parents house, not where I am living currently.

What do you all think of this? Did I achieve an obe?

Also I want to add something I just remembered. When I tried to float out of my window For some reason it wouldn't let me out, that is when I woke up.

I always wanted to see this. I am happy for these people, maybe more blind people will learn of it and work for it.

Usually every night I try to obe for a good hour. Usually I just lay on my back or side and picture myself a few feet above where I am actually laying.

I have a very hard problem keeping my eyes relaxed. I believe I need to start mediating more often without trying to achieve an OBE. During the night I will begin to see something in the blackness and as soon as I "see" something my eyes will automatically try to focus on it thus losing the image. Anyone else ever go through the same thing? How can I overcome this?

From reading these forums I may believe this is the beginning of dreaming but the visions are not very clear at all.. just like a small picture in the pitch black behind my eye lids. Sometimes I see a persons face, or just a pair of eyes, or just one eye. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you for the response..

I haven't had a dream with this theme in quite a while but I will try to remember. I know that I would just sit there watching an animal chew on another animal. I know the animal that was doing the chewing would just sit there and stare at me while I ate. There wasn't very much else to the dream that is all that would happen.

A lucid dream is when you are dreaming and you know you are in the dream state and can control things in the dream. You might have woken up after feeling that you were dying but not fully awoken. After you felt like you were sinking down your brain may have gotten excited and you thought "whoah what is this". I believe you feel that sinking feeling again but try to just let it flow you may be on your way to obe.

I have been a recurring dream theme lately.. where another animal is eating another animal. I am just watching in the dream. An animal will just be sitting there chewing on another animal and I am not sure to be scared but I usually wake up when it happens. What do ya'll think this dream has to do with?

Those are typical trance sensations. You're on the right track. Keep it up!

Where do I go from here? I wasn't sure what to do when this was happening. I tried to imagine floating above my body but nothing happened.

Last night I feel strong vibes in my lower body but from about my neck up I do not get anything and I am still aware of my body, especially my eyes. I believe anything that I "see" makes me use my eyes and I don't think I should be doing this. I am having trouble though "forgetting" about my eyes.

Last night before bed I decided to use the brainwave generator program. I popped in a file that is suppose to bring on remote viewing. After lying on my back listening to this it soon came to an end. During the time it was on it felt like my 3rd eye was up to something, can't really explain it. After the file was done playing I layed there pretty relaxed but fully aware. Soon it felt as though my whole body was spinning. Not barrel rolls but like I was the hand on a clock except much faster. While I was doing this spinning it also felt as though I was tilting to one side. I tried exit techniques while spinning like this but I don't think I concentrated on one long enough.

Just wanted to share this.. were they vibrations or what?

I have had vibes before

Root:   under-active   (-75%)
Sacral:   under-active   (-19%)
Navel:   under-active   (-56%)
Heart:   open   (13%)
Throat:   under-active   (-25%)
Third Eye:   open   (0%)
Crown:   open   (38%)

The other night I had an odd dream that involved reading captions on a movie. I dreaming that I was trying to get a DVD to work and I couldn't get it to play. I finally got it to work and while I was watching at one point captions came up for the movie. It was one of the oddest dreams I have ever had. While "watching" The captions came up on the top and bottom of the screen and I could not make out the words. I believe it was like some letters were missing. In my dream I just thought that the DVD was messed up or something. Not that it helps anyone out just wanted to share I wish I would have known I was dreaming.

Is this mantra said out loud or internally? I used this one night before going to sleep internally and came close to an obe the next morning. I had precursers to an obe after dreaming about running up stairs inside a house. In my dream book it says this about stairs:

"Running up: escaping from urges arising from lower down in the body; so, a movement of attention towards the abstract or mental, away from fears arising from unconscious or sexuality"

I can't wait to continue working with this mantra.