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Thanks for the replies guys!

When it comes to specifics of fear. I don't think there is fear of anything in particular. I think it is the mere fact I get frightened that I am truly separated. But I would have thought the amount of times I have been out I would get over it. But nothing yet.

And for the meditation comment. I find whenever I try to meditate I just end up separating instead. Is there a way to meditate within my body and be sure I stay in?

Again I appreciate any and all input,
Thanks guys!

Hey guys,

So I finally am able to self induce an obe. But it seems every time time I fully separate I get sucked back in instantaneously as I realize I am out.

This has happened 20+ times now.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? How did you guys problem solve around it?

Ps every time I separate there is always a hint of fear present, sometimes I have to give up for the night because I pushed it too far, and I'm trembling.

Is it the fear that shoots me back in perhaps?

Thanks guys, I appreciate everything

Hey guys,


One of the hardest things I have experienced with astral travel is never meeting anyone else in the physical world who is also an astral traveller? Those who I have brought up the topic with often scoff, laugh or straight up stop listening. I now regret ever trying to talk to others about it in fear of more rejection and feeling alone?

Do you guys know any other APers in your physical life? If so how did you find them?
Are there signs an APer exhibits that might give hints?

I have a hunch my mother is an APer but I have no interest in bringing it up, again in fear of receiving a no and thinking her son is crazy.

All I can ask for are people to talk to about this to know that you are not alone.
This forum does wonders but I only wish I could talk face to face about these things.

I would love to just be able to snap out of my body while in the midst of doing something very physical and awake. I need to be in a sleep paralysis for it to work. I fell out of my body while in SP, once, though. I woke up with sleep paralysis and my entire room looked 70% the same but there were things in there that I never bought and it was decorated slightly different. I tried to move my physical body and I actually got it moving. I was moving my physical body around (but I was very weak and groggy) and I tried to get up. When I lifted myself out of bed, I found myself completely out of body. To this day, I keep wondering if I woke up in another dimension where I decorated my room slightly different and spontaneously APed out of there. 

I have heard(not experienced) depending how high of a vibratory plane you get to, you may see some objects you don't normally see in your bedroom(for example). This is because those objects had been "burned" into history in the plane because they were in that room for a very long time.
Cool concept, can't back it up whatsoever. Maybe someone on here can!

So I have been getting closer and closer everyday to having a successful projection.  I did not think my first would be like this...

I was sitting on my couch, leaned over my coffee table. I was reading something on my phone(which was laying on the table) when all of the sudden I felt my body freeze, my eye lids were still open and I could see everything I was looking at still. Then my phone shrinks about twice the size,I am still sitting in the exact same position I was in before. Then I notice that the black fuzzball is the top of my head, my phone got smaller because I am further away from it. I immediately realize what's happening and I am back in my body. Couldn't of been longer than 2 seconds for the whole experience.

What amazes me is how instaneous it was, when generally I have to meditate at least an hour to make any progress. 

Has anyone else here ever fallen out of their body by accident? It's crazy stuff, and not sure if it's something I want to happen often...

I was an everyday smoker of cannabis for two years. I ran into some person life problems that needed to be resolved, around the same time I had just discovered astral projection.
I had decided I need to stop my intake of any mind altering substance. I was Sober for 15 days, practicing projection everyday. I had made what i saw as amazing progress, and what really made me believe I did not need these substances to achieve my goals of spirituality. I then started smoking the odd day here and there with friends(However I now keep it in much more control, and much much less often). On nights I would smoke I told myself I did not want to project, because I thought it would interfere with my quest for sober spirituality.
However, I found when i went to bed, I would lay there for no more than 5 minutes, and find myself in a deep sleep paralysis almost instantly. Next thing I knew I had all the classic signs of an OBE exit, high pitched whines, pops. intense vibrations racing heartbeat. Sure enough, I got out.

Up until this point I thought I was right on the edge of an OBE without cannabis. Because of all my practice with sober I found cannabis exponentially increased my capabilities for the astral. Now every night when I go to bed(high, or coming down from cannabis) this same thing happens with ease.

I do not think it is a good idea to merely stick with cannabis in order to experience OBE. Based on what I have experienced and am now practicing, I view cannabis as an extraordinary training tool for any and all types of spirituality. It has the ability to show you these experiences and what to expect from them. From there you are able to(and in my opinion should definitely do so) attempt the same exercises from a sober state of mind. it will be much easier to achieve seeing as your mind is already aware of these experiences, however you are still able to tap into your consciousness from nothing but the power of your own mind, the way I think everyone should know how to do.

I know many users on this board are against cannabis and the use of drugs for these experiences. However such an incredible plant should be experimented with and used as a helping hand, in order to achieve these wonderfully spiritual experiences on ones own.

It happens repeatedly. Multiple times a session. Some I'm out a little longer than others

Hey guys,


So I have finally gotten to the stage where I have left my body, however my problem is the Split second I realize I'm floating upwards, or have the feeling that I am on the ceiling, I am instantly snapped back into my body. Do you guys have any tips to stay out of my body while consciously aware I am out of my body?


Thanks for any and all tips! I really appreciate them

I'm curious to which artist(s) you were listening to? I am a huge fan of dubstep but have never considered it for an AP. I have mostly been sticking to post-rock (which has done wonders for me).

Some people say quiet is the best for AP. I think they underestimate the power of music.

I can relate completely to feeling the vibrations, a high pitched whine perhaps and a fast heartbeat.
Whenever I felt these sensations I always knew in my head I was close, and in return I always pushed to hard for it. Of the few OBEs I have had I have "slipped" into them. I realize now my mistake, and sounds like what has happened to you as well.

don't get too excited about where you are in the vibration stage and that you are close, instead try blocking out all of those thoughts and merely let happen what is going to happen. The hardest part for me is my mind would always kick in whenever I felt a change, or going "deeper" into my state of mind. Practice practice practice to let your mind be empty, and let it do what it needs to do, you will know when you have separated.

Smoking cannabis for me was how i accidentally discovered the whole phenomenon. Once I realized what I was actually going through I stopped smoking for 15 days and had amazing experiences. I now smoke much less frequently and never on days where I want to try and OBE.

Cannabis in my opinion is a huge mind opener, breaks down barriers I could never imagine. However I think it only opens doors and it is up to you to walk through them on your own.

Thanks for the replies! gives me more confidence knowing I have been out already. I have even achieved a state like this induced without waking up in my sleep. I only wish more people would believe in this and be able to experience it for themselves.

Hey guys,

Just found these forums, they seem to actually be active unlike most I have found. I have been trying to pursue Astral projection for a month and a half or so now. I have definitely had serious progress, but It has only lead to more confusion. I have had three occurences that I believe were the brink of AP, if not AP(or so i believe)I am very curious to what you guys think. I'll jump right into it, sorry they are long I tried my best to keep descriptions as short as possible without leaving anything out.

All occurences happened after I gained consciousness in my sleep.

Occurence 1:

I was having a weird dream, composed of a room in my current house(except the door on a different wall). This door lead to a room in one of my old houses I lived in 4 years ago. The last part of the dream I remember is all the sudden the lights went out in the room and I started panicking. I am not sure why I was so afraid but I ran to the lightswitch to turn on the lights. I flicked it three or four times and nothing happened. That second I realized I was dreaming and immediately thought "okay it's OBE time". Next thing I knew my dream faded and I was laying in my bed, still asleep. In a split second I experienced the craziest vibrations I have ever felt. (Up until this time I thought i had experienced these vibrations I had been reading about) These vibrations were intense, it felt like I was taking off. Gradually there was this high pitched whiney rushing noise that increasingly got louder and more unbearable. My heartbeat was racing. Based on what I had read on AP up until this point, I knew exactly what was happening. I thought to myself "this was it!". But as things got more intense, I panicked. I was terrified of going into a whole new unknown world. I have never felt fear so real in my life. And with that I woke myself up and laid there, unable to get back to sleep for a long time.

Occurence 2:

After a few more times of waking up in my sleep and trying to OBE, the fear always overwhelmed me and I could never get as intense of vibrations as I did that one night.

One night a week or so after the intense vibrations night, I had an "inception" like experience. It is unfortunately blurry but I remember enough to be very confused. The first thing I recall is lying in my bed, arms stuck straight up in the air, I felt like a statue frozen solid unable to move anything. I started to wiggle my right arm and pulled it free, I could feel it leaving my arm(that was still frozen straight up in the air) i tried to move it around but only my hand to my shoulder I could move(what i believed to be my "astral arm"), the rest of my body was frozen solid.Next thing I remember is throwing my arms down by my side and waking myself up...or so I thought. There i found myself still laying in my bed, this time my arms by my side. I knew I was asleep still, there was a high pitched whine and next thing I knew I felt separated from my body. I have no idea why or a reason why i felt this way, but I just felt separate from it. I tried the "situp" technique and only got my upper torso bent out until this unbelievable magnetic force pulled me back down into my body, It was so fast and powerful I couldn't resist. There I was laying in my bed, this time awake for sure.

I thought on this one for awhile, It felt like either my first "statue state" was an unconscious dream(in which i awoke)then I pulled myself out of that dream and into a lucid dream(which is why I could tell myself to sit up) and woke up truly after that. My inception dream within a dream, or so it felt like.
my other theory is in fact I awoke in my statue dream and that became the lucid dream, because I was very aware what was happening to me, and I pulled myself into a separation. However I did not feel any vibrations, But It felt so real that I had truly separated, is it possible I separated in my sleep without realizing it? and then gained consciousness after separation?

Occurence 3:

This one is short, but The first time i have felt anything like it.

I was having a random dream which I can't remember. The second I gained consciousness I awoke and I knew I woke up in my sleep again. but this time it didn't feel like my regular sleep paralysis state I am accustomed to. in the state I was in, my body did not exist, nor did the physical world around it. I remember blue and white. And I can't describe as anything else but the fact that I was existence itself.

Could this have been another separation in my sleep without realizing it? or such a deep sleep paralysis I totally lost sense of the physical world?

I feel I am on the verge of an AP(If I haven't already). But I just can't decide if what I am experiencing is real or a figment of my imagination on the dream plane? thanks for taking the time to read, I am hoping someone has insight to what my experiences could possibly be.

what do you guys think?