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Most illegal drugs are less harmful than alcohol and cigarettes. It is a persons choice weather or not they want to do drugs not the government not any one elses. The reason they stay illegal is because one the government makes a killing off of people beinfg in jail and two they have a tendancy to make people see outside the box and again the governemnt cannot have anyone around thats not a good little sheep. 

I truly believe the entire 2012 deal has much to do with kundalini. The more i know and work with it the more i learn and the more time my Gaurdian spends in conversations with me.

Very good. Im sorry to be a skeptic but you can imagine the amount of people saying they work with Kundalini when its really not.

Maybe i can help in your process a bit. The Kundalini is drawn up like a fluid in a straw when you open your chakra from Top to Bottom. Only then will the full potential be realised. To utilize all possible aspects you ajna chakra has to be very powerful it should be to a point that you feel it almost all the time not just when you are in meditation or practice.

It is just as easy to utilize Kundalini as a good or bad person.

Hope that helps some. The fact kundalini is drawn up and not "forced" up from the root makes a big differance. 

I also forgot to mention. Practice the middle pillar preferably Isreal Regardie's. This is an amazing energy builder and when you read it you will se how it will help with Kundalini. Make sure you take your time with it. It is for all intents a spell. So slow and easy. Just like with Kunda work. Just google middle pillar you will find many.

When i said thats just not true i was refering to where you said kundalini does not hurt. But you verified what you meant in the following post.

Sorry i was not refering to you my friend it was directed at the prior posts. 

Thats not at all true. Have you ever read adout Krishna? Let me ask something if you can feel this energy how does it occur? I mean is it a feeling of riseing up from the root chakra? What occurs that lets you know?

The pentagram protects from these type entities. warding spells often have the user put a pentagram on there window in salt to keep the negative away.
Its a Christian ideology is all. Any upside down or even upright pentagram is EVIL.
But hey the Star of david is considered pagan or evil to. lol

They are not the way to go for YOU. That does not mean for someone else. So much false doctrine from learned nonsense thats just not true.

That means you have raised you kundalini. Not awakened it. The later being very rare. There is always a viable stream of kundalini to work with and "raise" but an awakening is an all together differant story.

Practical experiances with this is in my opinion is nothing to be talking about in any public place. Suffice it to say when you begin to roll your spine uncontrollably its not real fun. The after affects however are quite amazing. It is nothing that stays with you forever it comes and goes. The presence is there forever though. 

Do you think a dreamer completing there energy body is not subtly changeing there dna also? On the opposite negative side of the spectrum. And this is stricktly my opinion. Smoking leaves a dna trace and thus people that have smoked are more likely to have kids that smoke.

That realization is the energy of your ego. The ego can be both negative and possitive energies. It can express itself from past lives.

Ok let me try this from a more objective approach. First is anyone here a real christian? or muslim? If you are either of these two you have no right to say demons dont exist. Your bible that cannot be flawed (from your own view point) tells you they exist. If you dont believe the bible you are not a true christian period. As for the muslim belief it is the same.

Some of you trying to argue have actually pointed out yourself that its belief. The human mind is most powerful in fact it is what creates our reality. The total belief that we live right here and now is what makes it so. The belief that you can project makes it so. The belief that the world is comeing to an end by millions or even billions of people will make it manifest as it will.
The belief in demons makes them so. They may not be a belief that you have but some do believe. Since some do believe and we as humans are all connected (do i need explain) than demons exist.
Even the anciant religions that taught us to astral travel teach that there is an underworld and and astral plane both are many layered. Your lower self is the connection to this underworld. and your higher self is the connection to the higher planes.
I am not a negative person. I love life and god. I live happily and do the best possible. But all i need to do is look at what our own government to be able to see that the demonic exists. Even if it is of a persons own makeing there are SOOOOO many that are corrupt and some that worship evil directly. The great horned owl,the skull and bones, these are leaders that worship evil. So even if they are makeing it up and the demon is themself. They have made it manifest in your world just by doing that.
                 I have many friends that practice magic. they speak and even physically see the demon and the angelic beings thay ask of. Is that just imagination gone wild? Even if it is they are connected to you and i so it is.   

Its no differant to awaken dna than it is to awaken parts of the brain that do not work. I wont argue this because no one is going to change there mind. But yes you can do both by knowing yourself. The only thing keeping us from doing most anything is a belief that we cannot. What we are told and what is are two differant things. Just as you cannot cast spells or leave your physical body....Well yes you can. 

DNA is immutable.....lol 

God you are fools. Just because you do not see demons in your pretty little world does not mean there not there. NOT BELIEViNG DOES NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY. If your so wise as to discredit every bible the world has created from ethiopia to the niv than maybe we should just all bow down to you. For surely if you can make evil go away your deserving.
All you need to do to know they exist is look at history history repeats itslef and it is the facts. How many possesions there have been. Even gods own words have stated that demons are real. But thats right you no more than god.
Yin and Yang, ohh whats the point here im not going to change anyones mind. If you are in fear of this type thing you do not see it when you project anyone knows that. its an energy around you that keeps "them" back. But to truly be a man/women of knowledge you must walk both sides of the fence otherwise your mearly a fool.

No diety is helping you. In fact besides the one god there is very little use for any other false gods or idols.
Kundalini and all mysticism comes from you. There are outside energy sources we can tap into in the case of kundalini it would be food and proper exercise. Remember you are the source of anything not some false idol or diety. You and god. Peace.

Dont take everything so literally in the book. They bog you down go with what comes natural and go back to basics. That will help i hope. 

As for the figure i would never venture to say. It would only be a guess anyways. I would seriously recomend returning to visit again if its that big of deal. By the way when you lay there doing all those neat little energy tricks try and send a nice rippling flow of energy through your brain. down the left down the right down the center (very important) and than in reverse. After you finish focus all of it that you worked with too the third eye and than release it through the crown or down through your feet. If you have a very inactive third eye ( idoubt that if you can see colors and auras) or if you are inexperianced with it you will see that "awakening" the brain in this way will have some amazing results. Remember be gentle like a lapping wave of energy. Not some tidal force. If it builds to much release as i stated prior.

Excuse me if i repeat anything. I only read the first post. definatly we wil be stronger. If you only meditate or clear your own chakra once in a while you are leaps and bounds past someone that has not. Negative energy is the root of all disease and problems. Since i have started my esoteric path i have had maybe one cold. Compare that too the two colds a season that i could set my watch too.

I dont think so. The government has done anything they want with religious order for quite some time now. Up to and including makeing sure our missionaries make it to other parts of the world to spread the Christian word. And remember not just the united states. Many other countries have no choice in religion at all. Unless of course they go underground. 
When the end time comes part of the strife i think at least will be between religion and government. Now im no christian but i have many near and dear to me that are. Just because they cannot yet see that they are not the end all. Does not mean that they are not strong. They have a very powerful belief. A belief that is not altogether wrong. And they are commited.  Politicians once you take away the money will collapse like a card house.....see what im trying to get at here. We by being religiously intolerant ourselves are no better than the Christian that hates us for being pagans. I for one am above that.
             I strive to spread the true word. Not to condone other people (other than the government). It will never help our cause to be just like the inquisition or the clerics who burned and slayed witches and pagans long ago. Im happy just to be able to choose what belief i will have and o be able to help people to SEE.

You should already know this choose to become a demon or a angel. Some gnostics even strive to become angelic while still living. It is the root of there "powers". You also know and can feel that at any time you can give in Totally to one side or the other. Its not hard just pick. The problem is choosing to be so extreme usually sends one to a looney bin or they end up like hitler or dommer. Even the most evil have influences of good and perform good acts. It does not by any means they are not demonic. You think the government send in troops to die for no good reason? Heck no its a sacrafice. And they know it. Its gives power any mage knows that. The thing is if i could prove it well i sure as heck would not be here writing on this forum...You think someone that was not demonic or trying to become that way would do this? It is already proven in the book of Enoch. We are the seed of god. we have been bread with angels you think the opposite cannot/has not already happened? Even the Merovingian blood that still lives today has claim to the line of Jesus. We are in the likeness and god has warned many times to try and dethrone him is rediculous. Do you think this warning would even exist if we could not become so much more?
                     Back in ancient time people worshipped other people. These other people claimed god hood. well not really gods at all. More like demons and angels.
Enoch himself never died he was illuminated and ascended to heaven without ever dying after living for thee hundred and sixty five years. His blood is also among the people that are here now. Regular human ? I think not. The mustard seed resides in all human kind. Give it the credit it deserves.   

Yes you create the reality that you want. You do not change what is said by god to his children you do not recreate historical fact to your own likeing. The children that have the seed of god resideing in them. If the world was not balanced YIN and YANG. Than it would be a struggle to live from day to day. When the sun rises on any planet what is on the opposite side DARKNESS. When you astral travel you can go to the higher planes and the lower planes. You dont choose to not believe in darkness and it will just go away....Dont any of you protect yourselves in astral? Non of you ever use any minor protection of any kind? Non of you have ever seen a real exorcism? How about the government? You think that all the evil that they have done comes from themself? Look around you the evil is every where. Its so subtle that you can almost live your life and not see it at all. Thats exactly what lucifer wants. You never realize you have a spirit because your to busy worrying about how much you will own in this life or how much money you have or how your going to get laid next....The ten commanments and the seven deadly sins are not in place for our reading enjoyment there there for a reason. Weather or not you believe in a physical demon you cannot deny that we are in the mouth of the dragon. There even a comandment that we no longer even follow at all. keep the sabbath day holy...It was worked out of society in subtle slow and manipulative ways. But that does not mean we are not sinning because society says its ok to work every day.....It does not mean its ok for 19 and 20 year old men to die for no more cause than a bunch of greedy secret society rulers wanting to have more money......

If you listen to nothing at all remember that if you cannot take it with you to the afterlife how important is it really? Whats the root of evil? Man is. men can become demons also. Its not reserved to the watchers that failed the lord there are many demons and angels men have the seed in them and can be either.
Every society that has ever existed has a demon of some name and type. I will not pretend that i know better than everyone that has lived.
You pretend to travel the astral, You say that reincarnation exists, And we study our past lives quite often for more information on history. Yet you think that these past lives dont influence bad people also? You think that its reserved for those of us that can here and see them? 
Light/dark
day/night
good/evil
yin/yang
right/left
up/down
hot/cold
angel/demon
right brain/left brain
If you are at all in tune to our world you know the balance is gone, Thats why we are ravaged by natural disasters and war and now monitered in everything we do by homeland security,drought,new disease. the balance is at an end. Thats why there is a new age comeing in 2012. We as humans have failed yet again. Failed to see what is important in life. 

I agree but there are worse groups to choose from than Religion. Religion at the least teaches the word of god and also allows for belief in spirit. Dont blame religion its like blaming the loaded gun that a killer has instead of the killer. The biggest issue i have is that religion keeps us all segregated.
Anyways the government is far worse than any religion and in the end i choose to have a christian at my side than i would a politician.....

Yes but have you not encountered them? The evil of man in this world is that of our on devices? Partly yes it is. But what was the spark? what continues to decieve and show man the false paths? Even if it is just part of our own makeing is it not possible to manifest these?  I do see your view well but does god have to be limited than to be the spark of life or everything as we know it? It was he who created satan if you believe but satan made his own choices after existing. 

Ok i read (most) of the fun....But i will say im not from any forum that was mentioned. I have my own beliefs and my own knowledge. In part it may come from people like bruce and many others. But in the end its done by me.
The belief of outside forces is very real. If you spent any time astrally you know theres a balance in all things. And if you believe in god you believe in demons. So a neg is just a very "whimpy" demon. Or even a human spirit that bothers the heck out of someone that has not learned to protect themself. How you ever become a moderator in a forum that is steaped in the occult and not know for sure there are demons i have no idea. I must ask have you ever spent time it the underworld? If not you are only seeing half the picture and i forgive any ignorance.
                      Do you think this world became the lost, fallen place it is without the influence of the spirit takeing place? Anyways im not trying to argue here just pointing out things ive seen without any DOUBT.   Outside influence not being an issue for anyone that projects is just lying to ones self. If you project around family and friends with no form of protection i pray for them and you.   
   

In this case i say its up to the individual. Castaneda had some very good experiances with drugs (that took a lot of work) to produce correctly. I broke so much ground in lucid dreaming after his books. after reading the teachings of Don Juan i learned more than i ever wanted to know about drugs. And the book proved to me that they were getting a jump start from what they did not a false hallucination. These by the way were not ever man made drugs. Peyote,gymsum weed being the two main ones.
I have not for some time done anything but cigarettes and beer but i do remember and there is a good guide in the use of salvia and other drugs. I think most that speak of them negativly just follow the doctrines set down by the government to scare us.