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can someone reply to the above please

thanks for taking the time to reply, also ive been using guided meditation and binural beats occasionly for a while and agian there not doing anything for me, can you suggest/send me a link for a routine so i can start from scratch, as i know i can do it i just need to be put in the straight path. many thanks agian.

You guys might remember my last thread about how to stop bieng scared when you feel sleep paralis come over you well last night i had it agian woke up around 4am during a bizarre dream and instantly felt that sweeping heaviness followed by a very loud noise i can only explain to bieng a jet engine in your head, anyway i told myself dont panic this time and it covered me very quickyl but i then tried moving and justg broke out of it feeling annoyed that i didnt just let it set it properly its just this inside fear i cant get past. so i want to keep putting myself in that position to get used to it however i just cannot ever induce it by just lying stil and controlling my breathing i only ever just happen to wake up with it please can somebody help me to induce it ive treid before bed, when ive woken and nd even afternoon naps. thanks

the noises where actually the pleasantest bit just hope i can experience this agian so i can  overcome it wish me luck

Ok so ive been trying to ages to get into it last night i awake after a funny dream and start to feel myself getting really heavy with a loud jet noise and creaking noise like two things rubbing agiasnt each other i think to myself oh this is it then and for somereason behond my controll i start panicking and tryed to yelp but only a gasp of air came out and with great effort managed to move my arm and the paralis went away so i got into it but for somereason i couldnt help but panic and get out of it i want to remain calm and relaxed when it happens next to acheive an obe or lucid dream its annoyed me how i couldnt help feeling panicy and had to get out of it ive had ot brefly a few years ago after a luciddream and didnt panic one little bit. sorry for my bad english spelling

thanks desert rat.

Last night i decided i wouldnt bother attempting to obe but i found myself under the most intense vibration tiggly sensation ive been in yet and could here distant noises andeyes where flikering sort of but somehow i lost it didnt obe but had some strange dreams that where sort of lucid but sort of now in one i found myself by the edge of a pond struggling and felt like i was paralized but it seemed it was in the dream, then tried to attempt an obe this morning using a wbtb method and just couldnt even get vibrations

and sorry to sound dumb but could someone tell me what is phasing as i here this often on this forum but do not know what it means

i woke up this morning to a thud like i had dropped back into my body after trying a wbtb method but failing was this my astral body leaving or coming back even tho i didnt expeirence the obe?

well this moring i had a obe by accedent, i had a very late night and was woken at 8am by sisters going to school and for a very brief second i was just over by sleeping body but litterly for a split second then back in and felt like i was awoken and eating my breakfast even tho i woke up at 2pm today. this obe was accedent as i was tired last night and didnt even try to induce it i just fell asleep.

im not giving up nor am i disbeliving as ive done it before alough that was in a cannabis and achachol induced state so i know it will happen agian, im thinking of trying binural beats on some headphones as apparantly they can be helpfull

ive been trying everynight since i fist made this post and have not got there yet, i dont even feel the vibrations anymore just feel numb and is this due to trying to often should i forgett about for a while it and do it less often twice i have woken up at say 4am and attemptged but leaves me feeling numb and like im progressing untill say an hour passes and i find ive fallen asleep agian

im from the uk aswell

congratulations hopefully i will have same sucsess as you soon

brilliant ill have a look. got really close last night agian but it got almost annoying and i just had to move as i was aching almost

well im going to be trying agian shortly concentrating on trying to roll rather than go up or use a rope i also find other than going heavy i feel very small and shrunken almost, feel very warm and flat like a piece of paper

ive done it before ive experienced how great it is to look down on your self from above so i know i can do it agian its just getting it right so ill keep trying this website is very usefull

I just find it very hard to imagine anything atall apart from the blackness in my eyes its a pain cos it feels like its going to right way and im so close

Just to say i tried again last night with good sucsess up untill i got to the seperation bit which i felt like i could of done it but my body felt really heavy and felt as something was stopping me get out and then i ruined the trance by using muscle tension to try and push my self out i find it very hard to imagine a rope or anything else as its just blackness, i feel that i am very very close to achiving it and wont stop untill i do as i know it can happen however the time it happened for me was a drug induced out of the blue and tbh cannot remember a huge detail about how i got there it justr happened and left me thinking wow

thank you and sorry you had to move my thread. Would you advice having another atempt before bedtime or is it not wise?

Thank you ill have a look and read, doubt ill be able to attempt for atleast another week as like to do it when i have a empty house

can anyone help?

could i also add that i used to phone maybe five or ten minites before attemempting the recent one where i reached somesort of seperation stage and when i got up i looked at the phone and an hour must of past so it took me atleast 40 minites to 60 mintes to reach that stage and it felt like i was led down for seconds

Hello new member, sorry if this is in the wrong place. I am 22 from england ive before had one out of body experience when i was about 19 however this was when on holiday in a static caravan after drinking alchohol and smoking a joint of canabis to myself it didnt take long to realise i was actually looking at my self from above and could move around the caravan freely, i used to smoke alot of canabis when i was around 18-20 as alot of youths do , i no longer smoke it now though. So i belive they can happen as ive had one however this is what brings me to the forum i have maybe three times tred to have the same experience since without drink or alchohol i have on the first 2 attemtps gotten to the vibrational stage but couldnt go any further than that however litterly about ten minites ago i tried it agian and got to a stage where i felt i could lift out if i pushed however this fell through and i failed it seemed i was using muscle rather than mind and that must of disturbed it and took me back to sqaure one. Im looking for advice on how to get past this stage and hopefully have another experience, Im sorry if my spelling is not very good aswell and also is it normall to feel a bit werid after you have attempted in the means of heavy headed ?

Thank you for taking time to read