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I have been trying to obe, I can get almost to the trance state using the rope method, but I can't get anywhere near it using any other method, I find myself laying down for 30 minutes to an hour trying to obe... I still have yet to obe, but I DO feel a pull on my astral body which leaves me a bit dizzy and startles me back into my body... please give me hints on how to get farther.

well, I still haven't experienced an obe...

I haven't been able to project yet, either, but since I can't visualize well, I am practicing the rope method, I think you might find it easier

hmm, on the day that I started this post, I think I had an obe, but i'm not sure, all I remember is just trying to project, then my dad waking me up hours later, I may have slept, or I may have projected and fell asleep...

also, I did get really far once, I felt my reality shifting and floating and I was on the threshold, and then I heard the phone ring, and since my room is the closest to the phone I picked it up and found out that it was a telemarketer advertising newspapers, whom I just hung up on because I was angry about losing my place, if he hadn't called, I just might have left my body right then and there.