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I think someone had just finished watching The Matrix.

I don't find any possibility of your question.

I know that this is completely off of topic but your name is taken from a Dream Theater song, isn't it?  I put two and two together when I saw your E-Mail address via your profile.

I'm not too sure about the prenomitions even though I sometimes have them myself.

As far as your memory loss is concerned though, I have been having this happen to me as well.  Have you been under a lot of stress lately?  For me, I'm under stress at work which causes me to forget things to do with work.  I have come to the conclusion due to the abundance of projects and other factors that have to do with the job and also the fact that the company is disorganized heavily, I have no interest therefore I don't remember.  Mind you, I have been diagnosed with ADHD in the past and supposedly, people with ADHD forget what bores them hence my position.

The reason why I am mentioning my dilemma is to see if you relate to my situation.  If you do relate, then most likely you're forgetting things due to stress and severe boredom.

Thanks for your reply.  I actually learned something from it; next time I go into a trance state, I'm going to try your method.  I often have troubles entering the trance state but I feel if I can focus on a specific object for an amount of time, it might help me concentrate.

I have never truely studied Telekenesis but have always held an interest in it.  I know that if you focus your energy and thought on an object for a period of time, you can manipulate it.  I have tried concentrating on objects in the past but have never had any real success mainly because, I didn't devote enough energy on it.

Last night I was browsing through the forums and came across a thread that showed the video of the Psi wheel.  Last night after watching a couple videos (I don't care if they're fake or not), I went outside.  I live on a hill and the view from my house is a city, with the ports so there are some red lights that blink, like a signal for boats and such.

I was staring at the light, like I do at times to objects to see if manipulation is possible.  As I was staring at it, trying to make it burn out, my vision started to blur in a bright sense and I had tunnel vision, focused on the light.  I started to feel myself drift away, alike when you fall asleep or enter a trance state.  I snapped myself out of it because I was standing and I didn't want to risk going unconscious.

Was this blurred vision and seperating feeling actually energy flowing to the objective I gave myself or was it simply myself falling asleep....as odd as that sounds.  When energy is focused heavily, does it actually leave your body and make you feel like you're in a slight trance? 

Maybe I need to do some reading on Telekenesis but until I do, I was hoping for some knowledge.

I don't think you can astral project into a time that your astral body did not exist.  You can only project into real-time.

I disagree.  From what I have read, I have come to the understanding that the Astral/Spirit realm is timeless therefore, you could see into another time.  A real-time projection is what we know as your standard out-of-body experience.

I haven't experienced a conscious Astral projection (that I'm aware of) and have seldom succeeded at a OOBE (thus far) but these statements are based off of what I have read.

Thanks for your reply, Stookie.

Yea, it is very distracting but I think I have progressed as far as ignoring sounds or sensations yet, they do affect me.

This was odd and has me wondering:

I am fairly new to this and have only been practicing mediation and attempting to have a OOBE since January of this year.  So far, I haven't succeeded but I have progressed in steps.  Tonight, like 10 minutes ago, I was laying in bed.  I have problems focusing on one specific thing or blocking out thoughts because my mind wanders and travels too quickly.  I have been trying to focus on an image that I know in the past but never even got the "vibrations".

So tonight, I was lying in bed, knowing I wasn't going to get to sleep.  I generally always have dream images before I slip into unconsciousness.  This time, I figured I would try focusing on something I see everyday; the cd case on the passenger seat of my car.  Focusing on this image, I could feel my focus start to slip but I would focus back on the image.  I slipped into unconsciousness a couple of times but put myself back where I left off.  The last time I slipped out and back in, I remained focused on the image.  I could feel the tingly sensation start to rise towards my upper body then all of a sudden, it felt as if my stomach rolled.  You know, bottom of stomach in and it rolls to the top, like people can do with their tongue, I guess.....Anyway, after that happened, I had the vibrations.  I never had the vibrations before but I know that they were the vibrations.  Unfortunetly, I lost focus because of the new occurance and I was eager to make this thread with hopes for answers.

So, was I seperating or was it some kind of freakish, physical twitch that occurs when the body falls completely asleep?  Has anyone else experienced this before?

All of the above!

I attempt to project because I want to experience it.  I am a spiritual person, but not in a organized religion sense.  I want to have the ability to project to see other parts of the universe, to travel through different planes, to see things like I have never seen them before and also to interact with other energies/souls.

I suppose the main reason in this point in time for me attempting to project is to successfully project while conscious!  I have yet to do this yet I have memories of doing this as a child and actually waking up during a OOBE.  I would like to harness the skill of consciously projecting so that I can be more experienced in this subject.  Once I have a successful OOBE, I will be that much more experienced and knowledgable in Astral Projection and it's similar subjects.

Does that make sense?  Sorry, I'm kind of tired. 

Is it possible that this "flash" isn't necessarily a visual one?  Last night, I felt stunned briefly, like I was hit in the head.  Right after that happened, I felt something I haven't felt before.  I have never successfully conciously projected but I think I was actually on the verge but it took me by such great suprise, I lost focus.

Though, I did laugh afterwards. 

The eyelids require a muscle contraction to stay closed. If you relax the muscle, they open.

Well then, that explains it.    I have always tried to keep every muscle relaxed, even my eyelids (or as much as possible).

Something so simple......I always overlook the obvious.

Thanks!  

My eyes open by themselves when I'm trying to project/meditate.

I know what you're thinking, you're thinking that it's not true.  I have been told a number of times and have read that the mind's eye is most often the cause of this sight.

The reason why I believe that they're my physical eyes is because of two main factors:
1. My line of sight never changes, it's only straight ahead; what I'd see if i deliberetly looked directly in front of me.
2. I've noticed my eyes drying out and me having to blink.  (Could this be psychosematic by routine?)

I am not trying to open them or even think about opening them, it just happens.  This usually happens during the R.E.M. stages.  Is this simply just because my eyes are moving at a sporadic rate?  I have even noticed myself squinting (with eyes closed) as if I'm trying to focus on patterns I see behind closed lids.

Is this something I should even be concerned about?  Or, is it a common occurance?  It's something that has had me wondering so I figured I would ask to see if anyone could shed some light on this dilemma of mine.

Yea, was a great movie.  Awesome post!

I know this is going to sound silly, . . . but when I experience the vibrational state the only think I have to do to get out of my body is focus on relaxing just a little more and I slide right out.

I found if I try to force it with ROPE or rolling methods I just get stuck.

-wonderboy

I concur.  I'm fairly new to OBEing as well and find myself getting stuck on any forcing techniques.  I constantly find my physical body tensing up.  I think I'll have to give this a shot as well.

Yea, just like the title reads, I was almost there.

I've been reading Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics every night.  I generally go to "bed" earlier than usual so that I have more time to attempt a projection/OBE.

Whenever I try this, there is usually always the sound of the T.V. on downstairs (sometimes I wish I still lived alone) so that's always in the background.  Though, I am learning to cope with this.  Last night was the night that I came the closest to deliberate OBE.

I went through the normal stages of relaxing the mind and the physical body.  After a while, I received the first signs of Trance/Body Asleep.  I decided to really focus on the rope technique.  Like I do every night, I see through my mind's eye (trusting that my physical eyes are closed) but I only see straight ahead.  I have tried to look around the room without actually moving my head but haven't accomplished this yet. 

Anyways, I received a bit of vertigo, REM and slight vibrations with a touch of rapid heartbeat.  I kept on climbing the rope, even gritting my double's teeth and feeling what would be felt if my physical self was actually climbing this rope with all my might.  While doing this, I felt and made sure that my physical muscles were not tensing and I was not gritting my physical teeth.  While doing this, I was still coherant to the T.V. in the distance.

After a little bit of doing this, I felt a more severe sense of vertigo, more heavy rapid heartbeat and could feel very, very heavy vibrations.  To top it all off, I started feeling the energy surge.  I could feel myself coming out!

I've known about the random sounds you hear upon leaving your physical/etheric body; pops, crackles, birds chirping etc.  While coming out, I heard a pop but it was very, very loud!  Since it was the first time I actually heard something like this, it did in fact make me jump in my bed a little (I could feel myself twitch) and it broke my concentration.

This was very exciting and shows me that I'm getting better and better at this.  I just wanted to share this with you guys.

I'm getting there!

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Last night, I tried the rope technique in two different variations but to no avail.  I think I'm going to attempt to harness the vibrations rather than trying/concentrating too much on "coming out".  I think I'll imagine myself more of floating out than pulling myself/being pulled out.  I tend to tense up more.  I think I need to be, like mentioned above, to be deeper in the trance state.

@Kosmos: I don't like that feeling because it causes me to be distant in thought which causes conflicts at my job which requires a lot of thought and organization.  When I'm disoriented, it makes what I do a lot more difficult.

I'm quite new to this so bear with me.

I have been practicing this now for about two months I believe.  I took a short break from it due to things that needed my attention at work but go back into the groove this weekend.  While skimming through the forums here, I noticed a book mentioned called Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce.  So on Monday, I picked it up.  I read as much as I can of it every night.

Usually after I've been reading for a couple of hours, it's about 45 minutes to an hour until I usually go to bed.  This is where I try building technique to successfully project while conscious.  Now here is my question:

When you receive the vibration sensation, does you physical body actually move?  I noticed these past two nights while I'm having the vibrations, my physical body is actually moving.  How can I verify this?  Well, the vibrations last night for example make me feel as if I was trying to find a way out of my physical body by rolling into a ball.  When I was physically awaken (at my will), I was curled into a fetal position.  The night before that, my body was halfway stood up (my upper half was up) and did not use my arms for leverage.  I felt and think I even saw my legs shaking wildly.  In an attempt to try the "roll out of body" method I have read about, I actually fell out of bed. 

I'm just curious because I don't know if it's normal.  I don't know if my astral body is vibrating while my physical body is moving or if my physical body itself is actually shaken furiously.  I'm beginning to think it's the latter due to the fact that the night before last, my neck was a little bit sore when I got up.  I know my body was asleep because I could hear the high frequency energy hum like it was right in my ear canal.

I also get visions and rapid heart rate.  The rapid heart rate does not bother me anymore because I understand the cause of it now.  But the visions, I think are my physical eyes consciously because I of course see what is directly in front of my physical eyes but the vision doesn't change; I only see what is in front of me.  I see what I would see if my actual eyes were open.

Also, I don't know if this is possible but can you overstimulate energy to the point to where it can make you have that floating/dreamlike feeling all day the next day?  I have been like that all day today and it's been driving me nuts!  Maybe I'm just coming down with the flu or something. 

I am still reading the book so these questions haven't been answered so I figured in the meantime, I would ask for some suggestions/explanations on what this really is and/or what it is caused by.

Thanks!

Thanks for asking this, NoMoreLies.  This was a question that I don't think I asked in the past.

I actually notice it myself every time I reach Focus 10 and since I'm a projection newbie, it freaked me out as well.

Every night it seems (when I'm going to sleep), I fall asleep and then wake up slightly, enough for me to be conscious.  I'll notice after a short time that my heartrate changes drastically and I start slipping into what I believe to be Focus 10.  I at times feel slight vibrations and experience Rapid Eye Movement.

Last night though, was the first night I ignored the high heartrate.  I had progress but I don't believe it was full progress.  It seems whenever I try to project, my eyes open themselves.  I believe they're my physical eyes because I see what's directly in front of me and try to change that view but fail.  Here I go...on one of my rants so I'll just quit while I'm ahead. 

Thanks for the info!

Why are you here then?  Why not join a forum that you feel aligned with?

You remind me of people who moan about there being "nothing on television".  I have to smile as they seem to have forgotten a little button on their remotes called "off".



Sarah

For starters, I'm new to this.  Lately, I have been experimenting with OBE, or rather how to obtain them, aside from the sleep cycle.  I have been using the aid of Boxed Nirvana that I across on these forums (see my post at http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/questions_for_you_experienced_people-t25510.0.html) and am confused about some things but that's not the point of this post.

This evening, about twenty minutes ago during REM, my body was shaking (mainly my head and upper body) uncontrollably.  I decided to say 'screw it' and see what would happen if I tried, I mean actually tried hard to have an OBE.  I began so I stuck with it but while trying, I started twitching very badly.  I eventually decided that I would stop because I'm unaware of what was actually happening.  Anybody know anything about this?

Well, today was day two and I believe I had made a little progress though, I have a couple questions.

For starters, I think my heartrate did in fact speed up during this session but I sustained.  I went through the stages, blah blah and blah, then came to the REM stage.  Now, once again, I think I was trying too hard.  Is there a trick anybody uses to relax and let everything just flow together?  I know I'll get there eventually, with practice, but am just curious if anyone uses any tricks.  During this phase, I actually saw what was in front of me during my REM so my question on this is, can you have the REM stage with your eyes open?  I did see a couple of things like a brilliant light (could be the light ommiting into the room), a cavern of some sort (briefly) and a dark highway (briefly, but a couple times).  Once again, I felt the sinking feeling.  I tried to make myself rise but I couldn't progress.  I also had visions/sights begin but I think I was trying too hard for them to come through therefore, they faded away.  I eventually had to stop because I was losing the ability to sustain this tonight but this session was longer than last night's.

For you story skippers, here are the questions:

1. Is there a trick anybody uses to relax and let everything just flow together?  I know I'll get there eventually, with practice, but am just curious if anyone uses any tricks.

2. Can you have the REM stage with your eyes open?

3. I've read it's best to do this while laying on your back but I'm much more comfortable on my side for it is how I sleep.  Do you think I may have more success if I do what is most comfortable for myself?

4. Do you think the light from the other room could be causing a distraction since my line of sight is obstructed by the light?

I think that's about it.  If anyone wants to give me some pointers, feel free.

Thanks!

For starters, I'm fairly new to Astral Projection.  In reality, I'm new to conciously knowing about it.  The first night I learned of it, I successfully projected but got scared and went back to my body. Then, I awoke with a 'jerk'.  Though, this isn't neccessarily my question.

My question is: Is heartrate changes normal?  Let me explain.

Last night while browsing these forums, I came across some MP3s that can aid in meditation and concious sleep/astral projection (see http://gnomad.info/).

Today, I decided to give the Boxed Nirvana MP3 a try.  I sat upright in my computer chair and settled in for this experience.  I got past the first stage even though I constantly moved to situate myself during this process.  I also found myself itching all over so I had to scratch.  I got to the second stage and imagined energy emitting from all seven points.  Now, here comes my question in more detail with explaination:

When I reached the third stage, I noticed almost immediatly that I was in a concious sleep.  I was having excessive Rapid Eye Movement and my heartrate sped up significantly.  I felt myself start to project along with excessive vibrations but came out of the state because of my heartrate change.  Does this mean anything to anyone?  After I came out, I went back into it and immediatly went back into Rapid Eye Movement but couldn't harness it so I decided to try another method.

I grabbed a pillow from my bed and laid on the floor.  I began from the first stage up to the third.  Again, I immediatly entered Rapid Eye Movement.  I felt vibrations but not as intense as before.  Though, my Rapid Eye Movement was far more severe and I felt as if I was sinking.  I also saw the doorway in a blurred vision but no movement progressions.  I tried hard to visualize myself rising but I couldn't grasp it.  Was I possibly trying too hard?  Was this blurred vision of my doorway caused by my eyes slightly opening during Rapid Eye Movement?  Or was I in fact trying to walk out of the room?  Shortly after, I could feel my REM slipping away but then it would return, but not so severe.  I could feel my eyes shifting direction behind my eyelids.  I could feel myself looking 'up' but saw nothing but darkness.  Other than the doorway vision, I pretty much saw darkness with a hint of white.  During this, I was thinking about myself creating this thread so I eventually slipped completely out and rose up.

Any suggestions/comments on this?  Is there something I should be doing differently or should I just continue to practice the way I did tonight?

Thanks!

I'll have to give it a shot once I become better at Lucid Dreaming.   Lately, I've just been too tired to even succeed at that.