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I noticed that after a while (though keep in mind this is a tad different from what you describe) of doing reality checks to become lucid in my dreams, they would stop working. The main one I used was attempting to push my index finger through the palm of the opposite hand and after some time of having much success with this method it altogether did not work - my finger would stop at the palm much like it would in Waking Physical Reality. Now at first, I was somewhat dismayed by this occurrence but after a while I realized that perhaps it was for the better as I would suddenly become lucid in dreams without any prior thought...it just sort of happened. This detracts a lot of the initial excitement felt with the achievement of lucidity, which in turn negated the undesirable effects of feeling the surge of emotion (rush in excitement leading to premature awakening from the dream)

So basically what I initially perceived to be a negative happening was actually something quite positive that has aided my non-physical development. A blessing in disguise, if you will. Never before had I really experienced the meaning behind that phrase in such a way that it directly affected me and I have noticed that while many aphorisms and famous quotes do have a semblance of truth to them, it is not until you experience an example of it from your own perspective that the saying truly bears weight. For this, I am grateful.

I surely hope that people don't buy in to that nonsense Suzy. Why pay someone for answers they say you are supposed to have when you could acquire (probably better renditions of) them for free?

It astounds me to see that such a site would even claim such to the point of attempting to make a business out of it, some gall they have.

When you say you got sucked back in to your body do you mean you projected and then abruptly returned, or that you were phasing and somewhere down the line your awareness shifted completely back to the physical? (I.e. The process was still being undertaken)

Yesterday I had a long day at work and afterwards went out with some of my friends, upon leaving the venue we were at we decided to return to another of my friend's houses. After a while of sitting and chatting I made a mental affirmation to myself that I would astral project that night because it would help me to get over some things, I then completely forgot I made the affirmation (which is actually the times I find they are quite effective as I feel they slip in subconsciously that much better) and continued our conversation.

About an hour later I felt this INTENSE buzzing in my arms only that would increase if I lifted them slightly and looked at them. At times it felt as though my 'non-physical' arms (oxymoronic, I know) were moving. I have never felt this sensation of movement in only one area before even during practice though the vibration/body buzzing I am familiar with...the thing that gets me is that never had the sensation been so intense and the fact that I was fully conscious and awake is quite bizarre to me. A little while later I made an exaggerated movement with my entire body moving forward to show one of my friends something I had felt before in practice and at that moment it felt like my entire body shifted to a point in space right in front of me, I mostly felt it in my arms and the buzzing increased again. I did not remember I had made the affirmation until two hours or so after this experience.

So I was wondering, is this normal or has this happened to anyone else around here? This phenomenon was freaking me out quite a bit but in a good way, my friends thought I may have been having a panic attack but I felt completely fine both physically and mentally...maybe a little tired but that is all. That night I found it a tad easier to get to the vibrational state then normal but it excited me too much when I entered it this time around, plus my lower back was in mild discomfort due to my sub-par bed. It's more of a futon really.

[Once again, unsure if this topic is in the right place]

Yes, I imagine once I have projected multiple times I will return to both Magnus' book as well as Bruce's for a more well-rounded understanding. Thank you all for the links by the way, saved me a bit of searching - reading through them now.

From what I have read nobody really knows what became of him. He seems to have said that he was sick during his last posts but again, that does not really prove anything. He seemed pretty dedicated to this forum or at least to helping out people who were having difficulties so his disappearance is somewhat of an anomaly.

I haven't even been here long and I already looked in to the topic a little because his 'teachings' have helped me progress quite rapidly in a short space of time. There are other topics like this that have started over the years, you could use the search function if you wish but I don't believe there is any concrete answer to his absence.

Contenteo: Yes I have been reading through Frank's pdf of compiled posts over the course of the last couple of weeks., I am a little over halfway through. I find that his simplification is very useful as it deters one from being drowned in a sea of irrelevant techniques while giving tips on why said techniques work. At first I found the Third Eye method confusing, or moreso strenuous but after a little practice i found that given five or ten minutes my eyes will start to roll back naturally and from then on it's mostly letting the process do it's thing. (Works best when I am tired)

Thanks for the breakdown by the way. I believe I have hovered in the no time zone before in practice/meditation, specifically once where I would have sworn I had been practicing for an hour to an hour and a half but upon checking the time later I realized that it had been only 18 or 20 minutes.

I remember being interested in projection nearly two years ago and i read a good part of Astral Dynamics in the time allotted by my library as well as Astral Projection and the Nature of Reality by John Magnus. These books confused me as to what i should be attempting and made me think it was a sort of necessary act of visualisation which I now know it is not. Don't get me wrong, they are both good books, especially AD since it contains very useful information and perspective...it's just that the core part that any beginner would want to get their hands on is presented in a way where it is easy to misconstrue the process by which projection naturally happens. Frank's posts and lurking this forum have allowed me to learn and acquire a much deeper understanding in the past weeks then all of my research two years ago. My rapid progression has been an astute reflection of that and I am quite elated to have come across this domain.

I must thank Frank for his contributions, whoever compiled his posts as that must have been an endeavor in itself (I believe it was Xanth?) And of course any posts i have read here. I've been reading your pdf on Phasing as well Xanth but have not yet delved too deeply since i just recently became interested in phasing, though what I have read thus far has been of vital help to me.

Yes I find that some days 'letting it happen' is much easier than others, at times my inner voice speaks a bit too often. I'm sure with practice i will get better, meditation helps greatly as well. Thank you for the feedback.

I apologize if this is in the wrong forum but I have been lurking around these parts for a month now and was quite intrigued by the phasing approach i have read about. I have had 50 lucid dreams at least in the past couple years (moreso when i kept a strict dream journal) and upon further analyzation i believe some of these were OBEs in the traditional sense (though they are basically the same with different levels of awareness)

I have experimented with the 'Third Eye Method' as i call it where one rolls their eyes back and lets their point of consciousness drift to the third eye region, I had success three times in a row with inducing vibrations which felt like an intense pulsing in that region coupled with hearing fluctuating tones that oscillated like theta waves...almost as if my mind was tuning in to a frequency it is not entirely used to receiving. All three times I got to this point in about five minutes and each time i retreated to the physical due to being plagued by negative images and feelings which i hear is normal.

I combined this method with a sort of phasing approach of enacting a mental scenario to induce hypnagogia, after a while of riding the unconscious tangent i got to a point where my vision started to turn grey and the left side of my vision turned quite white to the point where it encompassed 3/4 of my vision. It felt like my eyes were open at that point and as the whiteness grew i perceived a change in temperature (probably not real in physical terms)

I guess my main question is, how close to the point of projecting was I? Or rather what 'Focus' level was i at? Also any general tips for progressing would be appreciated aside from daily practice which I have been doing when possible...pretty much every day though.