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So let's do 'food' and 'meat': The desire or choice to eat or not eat meat is not the issue, the fact that institutionalized religions have very specific prohibitions designed to alienate their followers from nonfollowers is the issue.

Abrahamic religions separated their believers by telling them what they could eat and what they couldn't. 
In judaism they didn't prohibit meat, they prohibited certain meats, and prohibited the combination of meats with dairy and the eating of unblessed foods.  This ensured that they remain separate from gentiles, making sure that their thought processes didn't combine with others, and by alienating them from others ensured that they were disliked- it is possibly a good reason why jewish people were persecuted.  Because they didn't eat with everyone else, they were not allowed to by their religion.  You see, others didn't 'get' that they were not allowed to even eat on a plate that had touched the wrong food, so it was dangerous to eat with nonfollowers.

The same as Muslims- they are not allowed to eat pork and drink alchohol, once again isolating them from others and mealtime, making them 'exclusive' and going a long way towards making them not be liked.

Catholics were not allowed to eat meat on fridays and certain holidays, and some sects of protestantism is not allowed to drink alchohol or eat certain food combinations.

Vegetarianism is interesting, because only Hindus embrace it completely- not because of any vibrational belief, but because they consider cows to be 'our mothers', and this would be cannibalism.  Tibetan buddhists eat meat, if it is slaughtered by someone else.  When they lived in Tibet, they paid Muslims to slaughter their oxen, so they could eat the meat if they went to a Muslim butcher shop.   So the prohibition is not based on a broad belief about meat, it is specific to a religion and a region.

There are lots of different food prohibitions in different religions, but they all have one thing in common- they separate people from 'others' and alienate them.  In fact, your reaction to me "if you don't want to raise your vibration bla bla" illustrates what I'm saying- your attitude is, that you and I are not equal, because I don't follow (or you don't think I follow) your food choices.

Thanks for making my point.

Do I consider myself more knowledgeable than you on these matters? Yes, I do, but only based on the incomplete response you had given, which does not mean that you do not know more than what you had written. Which is why I put out the disclaimer, that if you wished to continue this that I would be happy to do so. Do you understand what being invoked means? Why else would I of added what I felt you did not mention in your reply to the questioner of this thread? Because I was invoked to do so. If you can understand that, then you can understand why there are others who do know more than you, and who will come along and challenge your beliefs so much that you get all defensive and then accuse me of being an elitist without giving more than a quick glance over what I have said.

From what you have written in the above, I can discern, from what you write, where your understanding is, compared to where my understanding is on such matters as sex and religion. Again, this is only based on the LIMITED response that you had given.

So obviously I have rocked your cage a bit, (apparently I have an elitist attitude and believe that we are not all equal), but would it surprise you to know that we ARE all equal, BUT not the SAME. Perhaps looking into the allegory of Jacobs Ladder might help, being that you have been there and done that (with the whole religion thing).

I guess the question now is, have you the courage to challenge what is now your foundational thinking, or will you be complacent and continue on thinking that you know all that you ought to know, and refuse to look into what I have brought to your attention.

Edit: If you wish to make this into a private discussion, then I will be happy to switch format. Seems we might have some unfinished karmic business we need to hash out.

[am not claiming that you claim these things to not matter.]

I said:

"...it is not all directed at you...

and...

It is my belief that you had left some things out and am not claiming that you claim these things to not matter.

But then you respond with:

But realize I didn't say that 'religion' is bad- I said that institutionalized religion is used to control.

I never said religion was 'bad', I commented on how the failure of religion has made most people negate what it has to offer...again, this was not entirely directed at you, but more to those who are interested in this topic and have read it from top to bottom. I have interacted with you on this forum before, this is why I put up a disclaimer. 

With all due respect CFTraveler, I know you've been here and are much more active than me on this forum, but your reply had invoked this response in me, it is not all directed at you, and it is not my intention of getting into an argument over these things with you, but if you wish to debate/discuss this I would be more than happy to. It is my belief that you had left some things out and am not claiming that you claim these things to not matter. With that in mind, here is my post:

I honestly think it is sad how the failure of religion has most everyone thinking exactly the opposite of EVERYTHING religion has to offer. I have found that every religion still retains a fraction of truth. So to totally dismiss religion is like saying; just because Tiger Woods cheated on his wife and got caught, means that he was never a great golfer. See?

Now if you are happy at your vibration and do not wish to raise it into higher levels of consciousness, then I would agree that food/sex/drugs doesn't matter. BUT, if it is your aim to raise your vibration to that of higher levels of consciousness, then I would strongly suggest that food/sex/drugs has a HUGE part of the equation.

Food: You are what you eat, that simple. One huge example is that of Meat, which carries the vibration of death, which will inhibit one raising their vibration beyond a certain level, no matter how much exercising of the mind they can do! The body is an integral part of the whole, and must be treated as a vessel for the Mind to expand beyond the organic consciousness of this world.

Drugs: They inhibit your normal frequencies, and though some drugs induce hallucination and is one way of altering consciousness, but is that the goal? Or rather, doing it natural without substances? Was it Gods great plan to just give us a drug so that we can find out their are other levels of consciousness, or was it meant to be the only way to experience other levels of consciousness? (Rhetorical question)

Sex: Sex is EVERYTHING! It is the foundation of the pattern of life itself...think about it.

why religions always have puritanical attitude towards sex and other so called lower nature of man, lower nature doesn't mean evil nature like lust and passion at least for me.

The truth of the matter is that all religion eventually becomes corrupted about a hundred years after its inception. In the case of Catholicism in which the puritanical attitudes you speak of are coming from, are based on an incomplete (excepted canocal) set of scriptures, of which the original gospel accounts are either hidden far beneath the Vatican, or were destroyed long ago. Others came up some many years later, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Library.

Originally, the scriptures were written in a way to help guide the seeker in a way of life that would lead to salvation. Salvation being the reunion of the Spirit, Mind, and Body. When we are in a lower nature of man, which is the case (as in the majority) at our present time on the earth, the masses are merely unconsciously being moved by the Laws. Only after raising our consciousness can we know and understand the Laws of God and how they work upon the lower nature of man. And sex happens to be one of the keys to raising our consciousness, and is therefore an area in which the left hand of God (what most think of when they think of "evil") is able to work to bring about a snails pace of Spiritual evolution, and until man can raise up his lower nature to support the will of God, can we be reunited and complete. Evil is simply the lower animal nature interacting with the Laws of God and having his actions returned back to him. Karmic cycles are how the lower animal nature evolves at a literal snails pace, and the fact that only after having "sinned", have we experienced the Left hand of God, and have incurred the laws upon us, do we learn from our mistake and act upon our world and invoke the right hand of God, the same law in which we get the fruit of our works.

So, yes...you can say a puritanical attitude is a bi-product of an institutional authority hell bent on controlling the masses, but what is not seen are the laws working against their motives because of their own secret intentions, laws which invoke the opposite of their desired effect. So when you have an institutional authority that forces puritanical attitudes upon the people (sheeple) that have flocked to man as their salvation, you have a recipe of karma building over many many lifetimes. And rather than leading by example and following in the footsteps of their savior, they (the religious authorities) find themselves in their own decaying ism that is becoming overwhelmed with scandals and conspiracy.

So lately I have been trying phasing. I actually had a bit of success just a few minutes ago... But it was not what I'm going for. I began to notice pitch black - like I was in the 3D blackness Kepple describes (I think that's F3?). Everything was fine; then for some reason it felt like my body was under a serious amount of pressure. So much that I began to get very frightened. I remembered to keep emotionally neutral and to just create my desires in my head, but when I tried all I could manage to do was see a white speck in the distance. I then got so scared that I just opened my eyes... Not exactly the experience I was hoping for, but I won't let this stop me.

As always, any suggestions or comments are very welcome!!!

This experience was similar to mine a few years ago. I felt some pressure in my abdomen, and a feeling of being rushed towards to spec of light off in the distance. It scared me too, lol...and though I don't have an explanation for the pressure, I can say that it is worth it to allow the pressure to subside, and that you have nothing to worry about in that regard.

One small question? If we come to this world from the astral and then leave it to the astral why the physical body in between? And now were all trying to get out of our physical body's! Hmmmm

There are several areas of understanding that are needed in order to even generally understand an answer to this question, which is paramount to Spiritual Evolution. And due to the fact that this question is very important, it deserves to be looked into with a lot of introspection.

Before the answer to this question can be understood, you first must understand that we do not originate in the astral realms, but that they are a level of creation in which our Minds can "visit". It must be understood that there are many levels of creation, and that each level has it's purpose and being. It must be understood that our bodies are an embryonic image projected into this vibrational frequency from our Higher Soul-Self in order to bring about Soul Birth while still in the body (not after death), and that until this is accomplished, our Higher Soul-Self is only a seed of potential in the physical realm, and lies dormant within our body. The body is the meeting grounds for the upper Heavenly Kingdom, and the Lower Earthly Kingdom.

The body is of utmost importance, so much that it is referred to as the Temple of God in Scriptures that were written in a manner to guide the true seekers to the Most High.

Why is the physical body so important? Because it is the embodiment of your works. And it is these works that will permit even the smallest amount of Spiritual Evolution to occur.

While in the astral, you can observe many of the affects of the human condition, it is only in the physical where we can truly experience it first hand and make any gains.

From the dualistic mind, one would think that any alien or "other" due to outside appearances are separate from yourself. This separation gives weight to your question, "spirits=aliens?"

To make things simple, perhaps you could read up on something I found very helpful, especially in the "alien category" so to speak. This material has been a blessing, and I hope it will be such that for you all as well.

Warning: This material will surely accelerate your pace if understood and embraced/applied.

http://www.lawofone.info/

Also, before/after reading this if you wish to learn more about service to others path, check out the book: The Art of Non-War by Kim Michaels which is helpful in knowing/understanding many of the struggles that we put ourselves through.

In Love and Light,

Jeffrey

I haven't gone into any kind of hypnosis therapy, however I did ask and included in my affirmations before sleep or meditation, to be shown moments from my past lives that I could learn from now.

Was it beneficial? Yes, it proved to me that I have mostly learned from my past mistakes I have already learned in this lifetime, from which were in accumulation from what I've learned from my past lifetimes, nothing really new or more was needed other than what I was experiencing now. The most noteworthy benefit to me was not being fixated on my past/past lives anymore, being able to let that part of me which held me be released, and now being able to focus on more fruitful thinking/works.

[Asking me if I know what Love is usually comes with a, "are you sure you want to know what I believe?" So if you are not interested in embracing a change of some sort or another, or at least being open to someone else's perspective, then the following might not be for you to read at this point.However if you are interested in a possible new outlook on this subject, then I hope these words are well in your search for true Love.]

Is lust just a way of showing love in an unconscious way?

If you are asking if lust is a part of Love, than you must first know what Love truly is in order to know what it is not. Lust is a derivative of what one might believe Love to be, but is actually a derivative of desire. What one might call lust comes from the primal instincts given to us through our nature as organic man and woman. If lust is a derivative of desire, than the input of the feelings brought forth from the opposite sex, instinctual lust, effects the desire to have the male and female choose to mate. If there were no input (lust) than would anyone choose to interact physically in sexual intercourse?

The problem with lust though, is that it has been perverted to an extreme so far from its original intention (the original intention of lust being the fuel to the fire called desire for the opposite sex), that it has taken on a whole new meaning, and this new meaning has been co-created by everyone on planet earth throughout all of its experience directly related to every single one persons experience, and is now so far from it's original intention that it is only from ones perspective that he/she can choose whether they are experiencing lust, or not.

I'm not sure what you mean by  "in a unconscious way". 

how do you know the true difference between the two?

If I am not mistaken, maybe you are asking for clarification of the difference in Love and lust. When someone is asked to describe love, they pause and think. Usually followed with a blank stare upwards, looking around for something to jog their memory. Within the mind however, a lot more is going on.

At this moment what is occurring is a myriad of memories that come into view within the sub-conscious mind, presenting itself to your conscious mind for a definition of Love from ones past experiences (including those of remarkable stories/movies one has seen/heard/read), the organic brain is dancing with lighting fast vibrations of energy producing the bio-chemical fix the body will then sense, and conclude in their answer to me what they believe Love is.

Because of the "atmosphere" (not literally speaking) of the experiences one has memorized and brought forth the present in conscious thought, I have experienced nearly 100% of the responders responses to me come from the outside world and it's outside to inside interactions with oneself. And so the person I ask to describe love to me after coming to me for certain advice would always go to the outside of oneself to produce the explanation of what exactly love is. They usually get to a point where they can't find anything outside of them self anymore, coming to the realization that they really just plain don't know what love is. If someone claims to know all the answers, he/she has only proven that he has yet to truly learn. So in asking me what love is, I can only go to the experience of myself in my search for the answers to the many questions including but not limited to "what is Love?".

Asking me if I know what Love is usually comes with a, "are you sure you want to know what I believe?" So if you are not interested in embracing a change of some sort or another, or at least being open to someone else's perspective, then the following might not be for you to read at this point.

However if you are interested in a possible new outlook on this subject, then I hope these words are well in your search for true Love.



We must have knowledge in what we are comparing any difference of any object thing word or meaning.  If we were to look up a word, such as lust, it is a series of words used to describe the experiences that are involved in certain ways of thinking about the opposite sex. The definition of words is only the foundation of the collective meaning of lust, so this may vary on your experiential definition of lust from which you have chosen in life, as well as what you plan to choose in life in conjunction with your definition of lust.

To define the word Love seems to be more difficult to define with words, so we go almost immediately to experience. When one looks outside of self to find it, they will always be searching, and others who claim to have found it cling on to "it", the outer objects of love in which they describe dear to them to give them the "feeling" of Love. After the combination of other words and memories used to describe  general "feelings" of love, one would have to agree that Love needs to be experienced in order to know what Love is, and therefore will or will not truly know what lust by definition is or has any difference from Love, because in order to know the difference of anything, one would first have to experience what it is and what it is not. So I cannot define Love for you, however I can most surely point you in the right direction.

Love cannot be fully understood from a dualistic perception, and so if one seeks to know true love in order to know what love is, one must not look outside of their self, they must look within their self. But how can we find Love within if we don't know what Love is in the first place? This is why we experiment in Life, and make discerning choices of what Love is and what Love is not. In other words, in what you believe Love to be within you, you would then show and give this Love to others in order to experience and know what Love is. If you find that what you believe Love to be doesn't give you the desired effects of what you believe Love should be, than you keep searching and experimenting. As mentioned above, Love cannot be fully understood from a dualistic perception, so there are many steps to take in order to know what Love truly is, and what it is not. Lifetime after lifetime may be spent on countless possibilities in this search for true Love, so to expect to find it without a good amount of knowledge in knowing what Love is not, than the search will be incomplete until you have transcended the limitations of the carnal mind.

Once the experiential knowledge of true Love is known by a mind that has transcended the dualistic state of consciousness, one will have experiential knowledge of what Love is, and one will know through experiential knowledge what love is not.

Son of Light,

You're here, in this present moment of now for a purpose. This purpose has been forgotten and you must try to remember why you are here. Listen to your thoughts, discern the truth from false, and seek the truth in any means that your God given abilities allow.

As mentioned, search for something that you start to feel any sense of passion about, and seek further to a reason why you have this passion to it's purpose. This can take 1 day, this can take years...as long as you seek it, as long as you ask, you shall find the answers.

I've been a vegetarian for four years, and it's not aided in or changed the way I have OBE's. I think it's just personal preference. If you want to be one, be one. If not, I doubt it changes anything. It may make you healthier, if you eat the right amount of replacement proteins like tofu, beans, peanuts. Anything that helps even out what you were eating in meat.

But, in my personal opinion, I don't think diet effects OBEs.

I agree in respect to others opinions, and I concur that it hasn't really changed much in my OBE either. With the OBE, your body isn't much of a factor other than maintaining the natural heart beat and breathing.

Being vegetarian has brought me closer to nature in a way that is in-explainable, and the life energy I feel from raw organic fruit nuts and veggies are unlike any other source of food I've maintained in a diet. I've experienced a more natural increased control and allowed more access to my innerself in my IBE, being that the physical body is just as important to nourish as with the mind and spirit. I believe the physical body is the soil in which we plant the seeds of application, just as our mind is the soil for our thoughts to grow.

My opinion of meat, is that the substance that which is consumed is quite literally dead. These dead cells worsened by cooking entering a body that was never physically created for meat consumption, effects the body in a slow, deteriorating manner. I believe our food by creation (fruits, nuts, vegetables) has life energy within them, thus revitalizing your body, mind, and spirit to an entire new level of capabilities.

It's not so much the slaughter that goes on in the millions every day of innocent animals all over the world, nor is it the health issues that are obvious to any one person who looks without turning a blind eye to the pumping of hormones and the handling of the dead meat after the butcher. For me, it's more about receiving life into my body instead of death, simply because life is where I am going, and death is where I am coming from. So to me, in my opinion, it just makes sense to spiritually evolve through receiving life into my body, not death.

I was merely remarking upon the content lost in communication through speaking two different languages. I'm wondering how rationalists and spiritualists can communicate if they both disagree with how each other speaks. Perhaps it's not best to get linguistically tangled in either side.

-AM

Yes, which is what I was speaking about with the dichotomy of the situation at hand, being that two are in the same but different.

I understand enlightenment as being a realization about the experience of reality - it's not spiritual or mystical, it's REAL. In this sense, 2012 doesn't matter at all. What is important is each individuals realization of their own CURRENT reality, not the implied coming reality. If something in 2012 is really going down, it's the people who understand their current reality that will be prepared, whether they know it's coming or not.

Well said Stookie 

It's about knowing yourself, imo, and living your life to the best you see fit.  Enlightenment is just another of those unattainable words - something that is always just out of reach.  I reckon it doesn't even exist - we are always on a learning path and even if others see you as "The High and Mighty Stookie", you still know that you have lots to learn! 

Sarah

Yes, and I hope I didn't come off as a 'know it all' in a sense, I know that those who claim to have all the answers have only proven they have yet to ask all the questions. I'll be the first to admit I haven't got all my ducks in a row.

Oh, and that last post Sarah, you had my ROFL! 

Peace,

Jeffrey

Sounds good  +1 Karma 

Perhaps my style is leaning a bit towards the spiritual...thank you for your sincerity. I see you have been in these forums much longer and know the atmosphere, so I will gratefully accept your wisdom on this subject and see how I can apply it within.

Peace,

Jeffrey

I concur with everything you say, although it seems to me that you didn't see deep enough into my message according to how you responded, which is evidence of the point in which you are trying to make. To get a better understanding of why you have been invoked to respond to my messages, I am asking a series of questions for you to help others understand what it is you are trying to convey in correlation with what was written in my messages.

I ask, what is it that invoked you to respond to my message with the insight you have given?

You say 'many' start out at step 2, are you implying this is what I am doing?

Where is it that you don't see step one in relation to any reply given, and what is it that you mean by starting the engine?

I ask for others as well as for clarification in your replies to me. It seems to me what you are presenting to me is a dichotomy, which is something I already understand, but I would appreciate your input on this so that others may see, and perhaps you can expand on the dichotomy of your replies in relation to my messages.

Peace,

Jeffrey

I received this ebook from the OurUltimateReality.com newsletter offer, though it is a single ebook dealing with telekinesis, it is part of a suite that is offered. I'm not sure where the suite is offered through a direct link. If you email Adrian, I'm sure Adrian will supply you with a direct link to the suite.

Telekinesis is coming up a lot recently. Do you have a good site on methods, it's purpose etc?

-AM

I am more than satisfied with "Telekinesis Power Secrets" offered by Adrian. The techniques are sound and the advice points towards self-evidence of realizing beyond our limitations, which is the purpose; for this ability to become self-evident.

I am inclined to think that speaking like "You need to journey inward to realise who you are" etc is meaningless in some people's mind. The words only go to serve the speaker instead of who they are trying to teach! It's a really subtle form of arrogance.

An enlightened message is of no means "meaningless" to anyone's mind, although it may be meaningless through their filter, the words ring deep and the thoughts are produced nevertheless.

I see what you mean by "a subtle form of arrogance", but this is not the case. When you don't cater to everyone's personal filter of mind when communicating in a "universal" post for whomever comes across the words is more difficult (but more effective) to achieve meaningful results for any single person who heeds the message. What you are speaking of is how you personalize a message for one person to receive anything of value from the words for effect, which in the case is more difficult to achieve in a forum atmosphere unless a direct link is made of the two communicators of any particular subject for growth of mind. So in this respect, I agree with you that a more personal 1 on 1 interaction between two people with understanding of one another can be of more effect.

In an open discussion such as this forum however, there are many things the responder doesn't know about that person in particular, other than what they had given them as a post. So this is minimal personalized perception being shown. From a more enlightened perception, you can identify to that filter being shown and give a message that leads to the root of the problem, but if you cater to that filter, you will only be leading them to the symptom, so how will that mind be able to expand past the limitations of the filter if the message does not hold something beyond the limitations of ones mind and dare them to break into new thought. You can do this at any level, and for those who choose to raise the bar, it is for a purpose for those who seek to understand and climb up the bar of understanding knowledge through thought and application. For those who choose not to raise the bar, they are accepting that they are fine with being corrected by the laws and will eventually learn through experience.

Point being, it takes someone of great spiritual accomplishment to be able speak from an enlightened perspective but even greater to realise that enlightenment is not a language everyone can speak. It is more appropriate to say something meaningful.

The language everyone can speak IS from an enlightened perspective, they just don't know it yet. The point of this is so that a person with limited perspective can see these words and be challenged by them. That is the way for movement to be enacted at a much greater pace through the levels of creation. If the person reads over these words, gets confused and squanders an opportunity for growth through the challenge of understanding, than this is the folly of that individual, and no matter how much catering to one's filter can do, he/she will never be challenged 'enough' to go well beyond the limitations and have any kind of 'meaningful' growth that will make any significance in a single lifetime.

The meaningfulness in having an enlightened message that comes across anyones path, no matter how thick the filter, is to give those in the world a message that will challenge their limitations and dare them to apply their own understanding into further growth. If you keep catering to the filter, the limitations will never be challenged beyond the initial problem one faces at hand. The problem is, after solving one problem, another appears and the catering cycle continues. This is the "snails pace" for growth, and if anyone has any hope for a better future, per say 2012 for example, we would need to find the root of the problem(s) and heed the message that directs you to the root of the problem instead of using the western medical philosophy of catering to the symptoms of the problem.

If only one person heeds the message and applies any concept for growth, than the message is of purpose. It however effects more than one person, in fact it effects everyone who comes across it, just in varying levels. The point here is to ask why we keep limiting ourselves in our evolution and to know when to cater to the symptoms of the problem and when to go beyond the catering.

No one side is going this is THE WAY. We find a common ground. We are united. I feel that helps more heading toward 2012.

No one side perhaps, however one individual can be THE WAY, for example Jesus showed THE WAY. The way Jesus taught to those with limited understanding was in parables, however he taught directly to those who could understand (The 12 Disciples). This is the difference of a message that caters to the masses, to the message that challenges the individuals. No one way is the wrong way, it is all beneficial. However, one way happens to help those who wish it, an opportunity to grow much faster, and the latter way is for those who are bound by the laws to grow at a snails pace. Again, there is no wrong way and both are of good means, they just happen to be meaningful at varying levels, and so you can say that to those who are challenged, this message is of great meaning, and to those who aren't challenged, it at least gives them the opportunity to be challenged, so that they can know when they are challenged and ponder the thought that keeps them bound to their own limitations.

Peace,

Jeffrey

I would like to identify some "pitfalls" of trying to contact your Higher-Self too soon.

The difficulties while trying to contact your Higher-Self in a premature manner would most likely result in a lack of belief if such contact was made. On top of that, you should at least know that your Higher-Self can and does much more than just talk, but to start the conversation you need to be able to discern your Higher-Self from your outside influences of thought.

Purification of Mind is important in this regard, also learning communication and new vocabulary helps expand your Higher-Selfs ability to communicate with you, for you are restricted by your filtration of mind and perception to hear anything of real value unless you expand your own abilities for communication and understanding.

Your Higher-Self is a voiceless voice, a whisper, and to make first contact, you would be best off after purification of mind, asking the important questions about life, it's meaning, and purpose while waiting in silence and stillness of mind for a response.

The reason why I suggest purification of mind, is because it is easy for one to get confused as to who exactly is creating the thoughts  you are hearing and may doubt this concept, and if it's a thought that one may not be able to trust to be true because the mind is still saturated with outside influence of not so high ideas about Life, then this may be the folly in what could have been the best decision you could have ever made.

It is very possible to make contact with the Higher-Self at any given moment, however as I mentioned, I suggest purification of your mind (and body if you're willing ) so that you can be able to discern the difference of inner thought from outer influence.

Peace,

Jeffrey

Your insight is good CFTraveler, and during my writing of this I did leave some things open for others to have input such as yourself. There is something else still looming, but I will wait for whoever spots this one out before mentioning.

As for the charging of teaching the technique, the cost does quite considerably slow the progress of it's spreading growth to the mass of the people. One area of thought would be is how our system was already set up, being it a capitalized business world we live in, it was only fitting for such people who saw the potential for beneficial growth of the foundation if they would "capitalize" on this new way of learning. What other way would one expect for this to have spread in the United States other than through the system already in place. The good thing about this though, is that as it spreads, and as more people learn the techniques, the cost for this teaching will decline over time, making it available to the average minimum wage worker struggling to survive.

I found this message from a TM practitioner who wrote a well written response to a negative report about the TM movement:

"There are many very legitimate reasons to criticize the TM organization and to question its hyperbole. As an independent 21-year practitioner of TM, I'm frequently dismayed by the movement's antics, but not anywhere near as dismayed as I am delighted by the results of TM in my life. Whatever the movement's questionable behavior, I've found practice of the techniques to be more than worthwhile.
I guess it takes more objectivity than most people can muster to separate the issue of the potential usefulness of some specific approach or practice from the issue of the reliability of those who promote it. Just as it's possible, as you suggest, for a person of apparent integrity to be cynically deceptive or deluded, it's also entirely possible for someone whose integrity you suspect to be promoting something of genuine value. It would be a shame to dismiss a potentially useful modality out of hand simply because you don't trust the promoter.
Where TM--or any group or movement that has a significant "anti" faction--is concerned, I would suggest consulting with an informed current member of the group before swallowing whole what the "anti" faction provides, and then doing some independent checking of your own about points of factual disagreement. That should help weed out illegitimate or inaccurate criticism and will make your reporting much more useful.
Hard-core skeptics will uncritically accept whatever you tell them. True believers will uncritically reject whatever you tell them. It's the group in between you are most likely to be able to influence, but if you appear to be as biased negatively as the True Believers are positively, you'll have less of a chance of reaching them. That's why accuracy and fairness are so important to your effort."
Judy Stein

This goes to show that those who criticize have yet to actually experience the benefits of the technique, and are only looking at the flaws on the surface level of the movement.

Your second input pointed out the second opening for further insight to be given. The word "the" refers to only "one" answer, what I mean by this is that all problems that we are facing now stem from one problem; not knowing who we truly are. In how I refer as TM being the one answer is a formality of speaking about introspection into self, what I believe TM does for those who would normally not look into trying such a practice, is that people will finally start to truly get to know who they really are, whether it be TM or any other way, this is the one answer to the problems we face now. You still may be thinking in the many sub-problems that stem from the one problem, and this is how everything gets confusing. Narrow it down to the root of the problem, and all sub-problems will follow suit.

This post is mostly optimistic, although I do have a pessimistic side of me that was not put into this post for the very reason of pushing a positive idea for creating a better future. We should all know there are two sides of the coin and that we can't know one without the other, but as I said, this post in particular is my optimistic post on creating a better future.

Peace,

Jeffrey

P.S. There is still another "problem" in my original post, here's a tip; (True potential). Read carefully

Do you see no change, no effect for the betterment of the world? Do you fear we will meet our end in this lifetime at the dawn of an age?

There are movements right now for the betterment of the world. One I keep in mind is the work our society is doing on the foundation of society, the children. Transcendental Meditation is finding its way into the education system and is spreading with huge success with very potent stress coping skills among many other benefits, including but not limited to experience and practical mental techniques to bring to the surface real results through manifestation of positive thinking.

TM is now the answer for the children of the world, for the teachers of the world, for everyone who has an open enough mind to accept an inner knowing of ones self. Balance is restored through this deeply correlated stability of our thoughts, which stem into positively growing tools from which are within us, and have always been there within, for most though it waits to come to the surface for as long as it is negated. And after being negated for so long, bringing it to the surface is ever more difficult, and causes are given up on because lack of results. You do not become a master over night, in fact many have tried for lifetime after lifetime and only the few have reached total enlightenment in the physical body. To evolve our individual self, we must also improve others help them self. Therefore what you give to another, you give to yourself. The true potential of our "future" are the children of our age.

For one, children have a huge impact on the world if the adults allow them. The cycles of lies are coming to a shift where the truth will reveal itself and change the world over in a matter of moments, and this truth has already and is still to come about in small to large events coming to a semi-complete revelation in 2012. For I, I see 2012 as a shift in our planetary consciousness from which all will evolve at a more mentally advanced state, and the ways of war and poverty will come to an eventual end as the planet moves into a higher evolved society which the technology is of mind rather than of material objects.

Know there is hope, and there is no reason to fear "The End of the World" no matter what the evidence is showing you. If you give into the ways of the world, you inherit that end, which is most commonly associated with death. However, to live for hope and to fear not the great illusion, the effects of positive thinking can change the world in a matter of, let's just say 4-5 years, which happens to be during the 2011-2012 age.

There are those who work for positive change with every thought, word, and action. Anyone can attain the integration of knowing of ones self. Anyone can think, talk, and work for positive change.

For proof of this positive change already engaged in a movement in educational programs, just google: "Transcendental Meditation" and you have enough resources to gather an intelligent perception of positive change with results. There are many more, but for now I ask the question to those who wish to reply; What kind of 2012 would you like to experience? and What are you doing to bring this to conscious reality?

Be motivated, Be creative, Experience Life 

Peace,

Jeffrey

Your question; "are we all gonna die" is coming from a fear based thought in which you have absorbed into your thinking from other sources outside of yourself that is not of higher consciouness. This is normal, and you can count yourself in with the majority of the world populous. This is however, not natural for those who seek to evolve into the light, who seek to absorb truth from those who have higher consciousness.

For one, we do not "die", we pass. Death is a door opening, not closing. For two, every possible, conceivable event is happening right now, it is which thoughts receive the most energy that will be drawn to our experiential reality.

I've been faced with a lot of my friends "freaking out" lately because of this 2012 hype. Imagine how hard it is to explain to those who don't even know who they truly are, who don't understand their true reality, their true purpose, and take into consideration the many false impressions many believe from the great illusion, and you have an explanation that doesn't get heard. When you believe False Evidence Appearing Real, you create your reality in FEAR, thus you draw what you fear into your reality. If you continue the creation of your fear based reality, all that you fear will become manifest, and your experience will thus be what you do not desire, however this reality is of purpose because it draws you away from fear and into Love. One must know what he/she is not to know who he/she is.

Imagine this...

Either the world comes together and creates a harmonious expansion of our planetary consciousness to the next level of being by 2012, OR the world divides and scatters in fear of the world ending, or being invaded, or whatever leads to demise in 2012. These are just two of the most likely possible experiences we will face, the choice is ours.

For further insight, read my previous post on this subject:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_maya/2012_end_of_the_world_as_we_know_it-t24402.0.html;msg225070#new

Peace,

Jeffrey

Everything that is happening on 2012 or 2011 for that matter is happening right now. It's just hard to see it now (with a highly filtered awareness), because the physical realm is slow to manifest, throw in the constant changing of choices and most believe the fruits of their labors were not readily seen by the limited perception of reality, thus one abandons the cause...being that manifestation of planetary change is equally dependent upon the world consciousness as a whole, and the individual consciousness of every single one human involved in this planet, there is a relative meaning to the intertwined opposites of evolution; The individual evolution and the Human Race evolution. Because evolution is always changing/moving, choices and actions change "end" or "future" results. The future and past are relative terms, the present is the third force, our reality. The present is what brings balance to the two opposites of the time/space continuum.

So therefore we are creating the date 12/21/2012 and/or 10/28/2011, that specific time right now, however, the key is, it is created now only in fragments. These fragments will eventually manifest to become the end result of many cycles coming to an "end" or for better choice of words, a "product" or the "fruit" of your deeds. "The End" doesn't mean that the cycle of Life will cease...cycles may come to an end, but Life never ends.

It's one thing to go about ones Life in a "normal" routine, only sub-consciously being aware of these cycles and laws, causes and effects, it however another for one to go about Life "naturally" being aware of these cycles and laws; experiencing true evolutionary growth by living in accordance, or for better choice of words; "in the flow" with universal Law. Our growth as an individual is dependant on our ability to become consciously aware of our true-self, and our Spiritual purpose in life (which can be found in the Divine Pattern). Our growth as a whole planet depends on each and every single persons growth, so this doesn't mean one must give up (in thinking ones fate is dependent upon others), what this means is that we all are on our own personal evolutionary journey and your fate is your fate, however you interpret or define the word "fate", we just happen to be sharing and experiencing it with many other peoples which are also fragments of our self, this experience, intertwining and creating together what we know as group conscious experience. Without one another, we would not have anyone to show how wonderful persons we can be, or how bad...we would not know of our polar opposites, and how the bringing together of the two equal a third force, which brings balance of the two.

Everything that is happening in "your world" is happening because of your individual choices made now, everything happening in "the world" is happening because of our divided and undivided choices that ultimately effect the whole. Individual choice is yours to make, unless you give it away to others, thus being of the many who meet an unfulfilled end to their lifetime experience on this planet, all because they gave their one true freedom away, to know and experience truth for your self. The choice here is individual, the 'end of the world' just happens to be a choice thought of by a large number, and can (however you conceive the thought), be or not be your own thought. However, the thought exists because it has been created. It's how you perceive this thought from all angles of the spectrum, and how you interpret it's meaning, which can be put into words; asking yourself THE BIG QUESTIONS and finding the right answers.

Therefore, the reliance on "saving the world" from a "2012 End" would be more dependent on each individual self, not others. Although others play a "role" in your individualized growth, (i.e.-- Jesus and the 12 Disciples). Think about it, you can't help others if you have yet to help yourself (remove the needle from your own eye).

If you take into account what is known as "history", one can of course notice the effects of those who reached Mastery (i.e.— Jesus, The Buddha, Krishna) who left such an impression on the world, the effect has been and is being, and will be felt on a planetary level. However, the truth of the experiences of our known Masters have been translated and faintly reproduced through many other persons limited perception of awareness, that what we have now (as testimony) is a dire attempt to explain the unexplainable in what truly occurred in those few who attained Mastery. A ripple in the time/space continuum that was most felt at the center, and less felt the further from the center from which it came, thus the further the ripple travels across the time/space continuum, the less felt it becomes.

As mentioned at the beginning of this message, we are creating 12/21/2012 and any other future date in fragments right now, upon which flow in cycles through the infinite reality of Life. We are creating the future now, and changing it with every decision of thought, word, and action that is made manifest. Our "time" is now, utilize it.

Peace,

Jeffrey

You've written down some very important areas that I would like to emphasize:

The Laws are at work, your life is going exactly the way it is because you have been living your life unaware of the Universal Laws that are at work. The best thing you can do right now is to identify these Universal Laws and make changes in your life according to their flow. Perhaps the obsession of your OBE is driving you away from what is also of utmost importance in your personal growth and evolution, your Inner Body Experience. From my experience, I've found OBE much more enjoyable while being at balance with my inner self. It's like breathing in and breathing out, some breaths are held in, some are held out. Knowing yourself can intensify any experience as a creation of yourself in the now. The "past" is only a polarity of movement and can be worked on right now within your self.

Your past, from your childhood to your failed marriage, thus leading to your search for self is where you are right now. The Laws are telling you that you have much work to be done with your "past" in the now before you can move forward. This is working on your foundation, keeping what is "good" from your past, and ridding that which is bad and does not serve you now. By "good" I mean that which serves you now, and by "bad" I mean that which does not serve you now. By "ridding", I mean "fixing" or "coming to an agreement with self" as to how you currently think and feel of the situation at hand.

Think less on obsession, and focus more on self experience, your experiences will speak for themselves.

Peace,

Jeffrey

This is an important subject, dealing with the interaction of those in your life. Not just your family, but co-workers, friends, and anybody else who happens to be in your life.

What is important is how you are aware of others awareness. This heightened awareness of others reflects how you can proceed in communication/interaction with other person(s) in your life whether it be family, friends...ect.

The question is, how high is your awareness of self, and how aware are you of others awareness of truth?

This is why you observe others first, to see how they interact, how they communicate. Don't pass judgment on anyone, it's "unhealthy". It's obvious this subject to many (outside a community forum and to close trusted friends) is quite touchy, but those, like family, we should expect to understand has to be relied on for support...

Especially Mother...right...Not for me. My Mother was quite shocked when I started changing my views on life, she is still under the impression of the church and so has a limited hight of awareness being gained throughout her life movement. I'm helping her as much as I can, which means as much as she can help herself.

I now go about my day helping the lost in any way I can, always guiding them in ways of self discovery, making life a bit more interesting while I'm in their presence. But it doesn't happen very often, for most people who interact with you in life keep the communication limited and very unpersonalized. Common gestures rule the waves of many, so when the opportunity comes for you to share truth and guide those in need using your personal experience as truth, then you will know when is the right time to speak to those in need, to those who seek truth.

Peace,

Jeffrey