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hey I saw on another post that people were wondering where to go to download some of this. I checked on KAZAA and found bunches! Justto let you know!
Elway

Hey guys... My father is real sick with Hep C and he can use all the prayers and good energy you can send his way... I would appreciate it and I am sure he would as well. I would also like any feedback about stuff that may help him if you know anything. Thanks.
Oh.... his name is Michael B in Arizona. Thanks!
Elway

hey guys.....
i hear you all talk about dreams and such.  I have a couple of questions for you.

1) When i am inducing a trance stage (which seemed to come naturally for me) attempting OBE, sometimes I get flashes of strange objects or bright flashes of light... anyone know what this is?

2) Sometimes I succomb to falling asleep when attempting OBE but usually have vivid dreams that i can remember. Sometimes they are lucid where I can manipulate how things go.  Since I started attempting this (OBE) I ALWAYS remember some parts of my dreams which is very NEW to me.  DOes anyone know why or what is going on? and any suggestions on how I project from here?

3) while attempting OBE... and I am concentrating on a place i want to travel to and I fall aslepp and dream about the place i was thinking of or have that person in my dream ( a person I would like to meet up with) What is this? Lucid dreams? i am confused.

4) While attempting OBE and I fall asleep and get that "jump" in the body that wakes me up...anyone know what this is?

i have a lot more questions but will save for another post... Thanks guys!!!!!!

I have never seemed to have trouble reaching a trance state within a matter of minutes...but actually getting out of body proves difficult... I have been trying for about a week or so...( I had OBE before unintentionally before I knew what it was)...Ever since I have been doing energy work and putting myself in a trace state meditation....I have been having very vivid dreams(that i remeber) I sometimes have trouble remembering them. The other night I was having a dream...and something out of the ordinary happened and I remember telling myself "ok I am completely dreaming" so I stared at a block in my dream as told to do so hoping to project somewhere else...and I have no reccolecction as to what happened after that..  So I guess my questions are: is this a normal response from doing energy work? How do I reach a point to Know that i am dreaming when i am?  and when ya'll tell me to visualize myself outside my body when attempting OBE....what do you mean exactly? any responses will be greatly appreciated.. Thanks
Elway

on my first deliberate OBE attempt......it was pretty succesful. I was almost out but got side tracked from the side effects of the energy ie: pounding heart beat, strong vibrations and eye fluttering. I tried it again the same night and got very similar results. (using ROPE) Ever since then i am having trouble even getting into a light trance accopanying a small tingiling sensation.....but nothing at all like what I experienced the first time. i have had an OBE that i remember clearly from a sleep state. (unintentional) Can anyone give me any pointers on how to get that energy needed or what i may not be doing. I have tried the physical relaxation exercises as well....Any replies would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...
Elway

About a month ago I was halfway sleeping on my couch and the phone rang. I got up to see who it was on the caller id and decided not to talk to them. when the answering machine came on and a message was left i woke up realizing i hadn't moved an inch and it really was the person i thought it was on the phone. I thought maybe it was just a wierd dream/coincidence...but then I found this sight......

Last night I was in bed trying the ROPE method and I felt the vibrations in the body, and the heaviness. Soon after i felt like my body was real swollen especially my face..before long I almost didn't feel my physical body at all and I was real warm and comfortable and felt free and saw black. i say saw black because it was a diiference from just staring at the back of my eyelids in the dark if that makes sense. it is hard to describe. my heart felt like it was going to pound out of my chest and my eyes started to flutter uncontrollably which scared me a bit and broke my concentration....CAN ANYONE HELP EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT WAS HAPPENING? I would really appreciate it. thanks
Elway

Thanks guys... i really appreciate it. Much love!
Thea/Elway

yeah I see what you mean...thanks for your reply  appreciate it!
elway

I have been studying a system of martial arts called Cha Yon Ryu. We incorporate quite a few different studies as well.  My instructor also explains the importance of energy flow meditation ect... i do not need to go into this...it seems as though ya'll have a lot of knowledge in this area. I found it very easy to get into a trance state and almost make it out of body. I think that my martial traing has made this possible. As before i couldn't even sit still with my eyes closed without thinking about all my daily things..much less clear the mind long enough to enter a trance. about the other stuff.. I have no idea as I have never made it out of body without trying to. I have once before I knew what projection was... i never felt unsafe in any way.
Elway

hey wizard...
i am in the same boat as you... I almost get there and then I can feel my energy deteriorate. I also need to know what to do to get that last little push! Hnag in there. I will check back on this to see what responses you get! wishing you well..
Elway

i completely understand the feelings you are talking about!!!!! It freaked me out the first time.as I didn't know what to expect. I almost got out...but no.... Let me know if you have trouble getting back there... I have. Good luck!
Elway

my first OBE was very similar! i was asleep on the couch and the phone rang so i got up to see who was calling. i looked at the caller id....and decided not to talk to that person and when the answering machine came on I woke up on the couch realizing I hadn't moved at all, but it was the person that I saw on the caller id!!! i thought it was just some sort of dream...but soon after realized differently.....
Elway

when my energy level is high or whatever..(i still don't quite understand) I feel my chakra points are active....do ineed to work on opening these or will the energy level open them or how does it all work? it is confusing and frustrating.thanks

thanks guys...the whole caller id thing happened before I new what OBE was and last night was the first attempt in inducing one. Everything seemed to happen so quickly but when I came to and looked at the clock it had been a lot longer than I thought.   Why is it that I saw black? Was I out of body on the my attempt? and if so why didn't I realize it or see anything? Thanks
Elway