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So I think I have found out the main key to projecting;

You have to be in a relaxed enough state to the point where your body is too numb or heavy so you are not feeling it. Usually though it can take some dicapline keeping still for upto 50 minutes while relaxing or perhaps less. But I have found this to be a sure method and when you are in this state you will start to see signs that the exit is approaching like weird noises etc then eventually the vibrations will happen then the exit.

But the main way of progressing to astral project is simply: keep the body still to the point where you don't feel it.

Anyone else agree? I have read a lot of techniques and stuff over the years but have found this to be the simplest and least confusing way.

Can anyone astral project? I mean say if you had 10 people all ih the right frame of mind to project and ready to project could some of those 10 people just not end up projecting no matter what?

Also what is the most useful ability to have to aid in projecting?

I am hoping only to hear from experienced projecters also. Thx.

anyone else know anything?

 I lost my virginity when I was 18 and it was the most amazing thing that happened to me with the girl I loved back then. Since then I have found sex not to be anywhere near as great as it was that 1 time.

If you entered the astral/etheral is there anyway you can "re-live" or revisit perhaps enter a sexual experience like this which was powerful and dear to you? perhaps if possible you could go back in time and relive it as it was I mean anything is possible right?

Anyone tried it?

They relax you verymuch its hard to really explain why. You need to do a search on ASMR and look on utube also and see if the video's effect you. I am thinking if they can relax people this much it could be a good state to project from.

I have stumbled across ASMR (Autonomous sensory meridian response) vids on utube. These are becoming pretty popular. It seems to work for the majority including myself they do seem to cause very relaxed and zoned out states and I was thinking maybe the states of relaxation these seem to cause might become useful states to attempt to project from. What do you guys think? has anyone tried?

For those experienced in projection: what is the maximum time you have been able to keep yourself in an OBE? perhaps by fighting the will to return to your physical body also.

This if for the experienced projectors:

What if you were to set the desire to time travel before an obe? (not a past life but this life) you think it would likely happen when you do it?

Ty for your observations with phasing. Rather than start a new thread  I thought I would ask here:

you guys find when phasing its better to look into darkness and try visualize or just let the darkness visualize for you? I mean do you try to imagine somewhere to "go into" or let your mind just take you?

For all those trying to phase.....how do you know when you have accomplished this? what is the sure sign for you? how does your consciousness or field of vision,feeling etc change?

Can you open your eyes when you attempt to OBE? does this work? anyone do it this way? ty.

I been looking around trying to see if any paranormal research institutes or organisations have been researching the OBE phenomena at all but not found a lot. Does anyone know if there are any current research projects taking place by anyone? perhaps by some sort of univercity or something. I am always interested in their findings when people try this. ty.

Does anyone know where I can get one that focuses on initiating the vibrations? or the sleep paralysis? (not from brainwave gen pls)
Anyone know any pls? thx.

As far as I'm aware you can't get galantamine any stronger than 8mg capsules (I could be wrong about that). You can get Remenyl, which is the synthetic form of galantamine in a stronger dose, but it's prescription only in the UK.
There's a website called ecrater.co.uk which sells 8mg caps of galantamine. They are pure galantamine, so choline would need to be added for dream/OBE purposes.

I thought Galantamine was the ingredient for lucid dreams?!?!

What strength are you looking for? And what country are you in?

I in UK and the strongest that there is.

I have been looking into this also about Galantamine.

Does anyone know where there is a company who sells it? I am also looking for one which sells pills of it in more high doses than other companies.  Can anyone suggest some pls? thx.

Rather than do a new thread I saw no one answered my last Q here so I wanted to try again:

What is the best mind condition to attempt to phase from? would you say it was best to try when about to sleep or relaxation or? and any particular position which is the best? so it better to try when fully rested or tired when you liable to just fall asleep?

people experienced with phasing reply only pls.

Energy feels pretty real to me when I'm doing energy work in a normal waking mind state.

Could you tell me briefly what your energy work entails? thx.

K I just got done messaging someone from the IAC (international academy of consciousness) who explained (not fully) a method of shifting energy up and down your body to eventually project. Would this be simply referring to chi? I am trying to find out more about what this person has explained but can't find a lot. Does anyone here know what this person could be referring to exactly?

This is what the person said when I was asking about it and said I was skeptical:

"You will know that it is real because you now the difference between imagination and real life. Being skeptical and having a critical awareness is fundamental to recognize a real OBE experience, so you are in your way! If you want to check by yourself if what you feel is real you will have to test yourself. First by knowing you better. Start by checking and recognizing what you normally feel being normal, then try the tecnique and check what you feel and see if its different."

I really am not sure whether or not to believe any of this hidden energy like chi claims as it seems it cannot be measured and is not proven which has always kept me away from any techniques claiming to project by using some type of "energy".

So what you guys think?

dimethyltryptamine

What??!?

I heard that VPDick Cheney himself piloted the first 911 flight into the Twin Towers. The astral body of the terrorist was being held in a plasma field in Cuba until the last second when Cheney was 'phased' over to Area51 and the terrorist was astral-body-slammed back into his physical form by a scalar weapon tuned to the carrier frequency of his Muladhara Chakra...sumthin, sumthin Hertz.... I don't remember the exact number....

I think its all just people making stuff up to try sell their books. Its like those who knew someone who had something to do with the Philadelphia experiment  next thing they exagerate it all and want to sell stuff on it claiming they know it because of someone they knew who was involved in it or something.

Helps to try after you've had a long night's sleep when you're body is naturally relaxed and your mind isn't as tired. Also focusing your eyes in the blackness keeps your mind awake enough so you don't fall asleep. I also really concentrate on holding my mind blank since getting excited at this stage screws everything up (oh yes, and the vodka mentioned earlier doesn't hurt).

why vodka in particular out of interest.

The best way that ive found is to drink a fifth of Vodka.

K any sensible answers pls?

K so we all know one of the best ways to make your body feel numb and dissociated from the rest of you is to simply lay dead still for 45 mins or longer to help get to the right state to use a technique to project but I am still trying to lay still but not had much luck so far due to interfearances.

Is there any other method which could aid in making the body numb and feel dissociated from your mind which one could use? how do some of you do it? pls only answer on this and not the topic of what the best state is of trying to seperate is or other stuff.

Hay, thanx for the comment ...
you'll have to wait then, until they (CIA/your buddies) put it up on their little investigation database system...

So the government does astral body swapping? LOL pls.