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I got it from my ebook. Not sure about what edition.

Even google book has it...

here's the snippet
http://books.google.com/books?id=tNe8Z4OhOhYC&dq=robert+monroe&q=ghost+catcher&pgis=1#search_anchor

Maybe a goat ate your page? 

[entangled in a large bag made of flexible wire]

I don't know about black hole. But Robert Monroe experimented to go through a faraday cage and got trapped there... here's is his notes from Journey out of Body

7/7/60 Afternoon
This was an experiment I don't want to try again. I was in the charged Faraday cage (copper screen mesh, above ground, D.C. charge 5okv.). / attempted to move through the cage. I got out of the physical OK, then I seemed to be entangled in a large bag made of flexible wire. The bag gave when I pushed against it, but I couldn't go through it I struggled like a trapped animal in a snare, and finally went back into the physical. In thinking it over, quite evidently it was not the wire itself, but the electrical field pattern set up in fundamentally the same shape as the cage, but more flexible. Maybe this could be the basis for a. "ghost catcher!"

Have you watched the movie EVP 1 and 2? there's also a 3 shadow person in that movie. Somehow there were like the villain in that movie. I wonder what is the connection of 3 shadowy/black person in the astral. Probably it is connected in your dream too. Wonder what it symbolizes.

Nice info Tayesin, thanks.

Since we're discussing about reptilians, what do you think about reptilians underground the earth?
Also... why there's alot of Greys physical pictures, mostly on alien abduction and area 51 pictures, but no reptilians? only sketches? (somewhat scaly lizard like shape i think).

i also agree with the wait and see approach, but i also would like to gather all pieces of puzzles regarding this. Not to believe it, just to know what it's gonna be. I don't want to be clueless when this "weird" things shows up.

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The time spent was usually about 3 days as this was the length of time needed to shed the "etheric" matter clinging to the double before it passed on.

Val Valerian also talks about 3 days. But his terms is from sudden up to 3 days to "shift".

Like alan had listed about realms, Ra-material states about densities. Almost similar like what you had listed.
Val agrees with robert monroe "focus", he includes it with the level of densities. George kavasillas also lectured about densities in youtube.

Val website
Ra-material website
George kavasillas lecture

My personal conclusion is no matter what the term is, no matter how many densities/dimensions/realms there is, we will move/shift/ascend/proceed to other dimension.... someday... but from what i see and heard, its getting near, probably before 2012.

Hope this helps

I'm currently listening to Robert Bruce now. Thanks a lot Don for posting this. And also thanks for making this teleseminar. Hope to hear more from you.

Yes thanks to my previous post about vivid visual, i manage to go lucid in my dream. Now i understand why some says the colors is more vivid there. It is indeed vivid in color. I felt i could remember almost everything. Though my projection is more in a dream rather than RTZ. I met an ET. Haha.  . It's a good start IMHO. Too excited yet don't know what to do. Hope it could happen again.

I heard from Alex Collier in youtube an Andromedan ET (one of the good guys ET) contactee said that the Alpha Draconans (one of the negative beings) is coming (interview in 1994). Could they be in that Nibiru? Who knows. One thing for sure, their agenda is to conquest, enslave and spread fear among humans. 

try search for sufism, it has some kind of OBE element in it.

I read somewhere that it has some connections with energy and focus. To more energy you can save or raise before going OBE the longer you can project. So a normal AP will not go up to 24 hours. Due to the nature of our body. But a deep trance can make a person go AP longer. Not sure how deep the trance should be but probably up to a level of coma. How deep trance relate with energy i'm not sure, but my guess is, since one can go to deep trance, one can focus all his vital energy to project. When i mean vital it means you makes your mind totally don't care anymore about taking care it's physical side and rather focus on the spirit side. So there's a random effect here. Depends on the person's physical health.

It is dangerous IMHO to project in deep trance when nobody is around to monitor your physical body.
To be safe, go to Hospital, connect with some life support, and ask the nurse to feed and take care of you while you sleep and go AP with deep trance. Hehe 

I'm with you. Bro. Same experience. But now i kinda lost some interest. I always fell asleep whenever i started to visualize and energy raising.   

But i kinda improved on remembering my dreams. I remembered my dreams almost everyday. That's one positive improvement. 
Still can't go lucid in my dream though. Even with affirmations. Not sure which area i did wrong. Maybe my affirmations was not strong enough. Another thing that improved is my visualization. It's getting clearer and more vivid but still less in color i think. Kinda like it materializes in front of my closed eyes rather than inside my head. Still a long way to go. I'll just accept what my higher self wants to teach me first.

I understand that OBEers can go to anywhere they want in the etheric realm. Provided they got enough energy and focus since to fly fast or as fast as thought one need to be very aware right? So probably not many can have a planetary experience. So anybody experienced in OBE had went to see Nibiru? just to see what's in there? is there life in there? Can share with us?

Thanks

I thought i'm a quick learner too. Turns out it's not like usual the learning process. It's been 2 weeks for me. The very first attempt i got that sleep paralysis, all those hypnagogic phase and all. 5 hours of trying. Nada OBE. 

Is being too optimistic, too excited, too observant, too hoping, too confident, too aware is the problem? i'm beginning to see that it is one of the cause. My advise, find a way to relax. I'm too trying, maybe too hard i think. 

It may gone up to 10 years i guess. Or maybe until you give up. Then suddenly it pops. who knows. 

Good luck to us, Cheers!

After some energy raising and relaxing. I got some mild vibration last night. Can't remember much, And i feel like my physical body being pulled. But can't release. Whenever i think my body is being pulled i got stuck.  I hope i could get used to "expecting" things. Since i thought that vibes was a signal, i tried rope climbing, rolling, floating, flying, asking for assistance until my mind says tired. I like to "think" and not focus. That's my problem  . Then it slowed down. Until i lose it...again. But i don't give up my trance yet. I managed to get this vibration for the second time. But after that dream fragments coming in, tried to fought it to stay awake but i lost i think about 1 or 2 fragments then i don't remember anything after that....  ... i lost to dream probably because i didn't sleep a couple of hours at first. But at least it's an improvement on the vibrations. 

aharris how long have you tried OBE? I read your other posts it's like years? Wow that long huh. I hope i could get it in a month.  I guess we are at the same boat. Cool. 

Stookie i never thought it could be like Harley Davidson vibration. It's loud like HD too?

One more question. It's about tingling. Is it muscle tingling? or is it like an electrical shock tingling?

Thanks for your replies

Hi, this is my first time, I'm sorry if i'm not searching first. But this is a bit specific. I doubt i would find it,

I've been trying to AP since like 2 weeks. So far i doze off when the paralysis came. I have no idea what the vibration feels like. What i have experienced is like my body going gasseous or something similar. But no vibrating. In my understanding now vibrating is like a low frequency like shaking (like someone who got epilepsy?). since i read some book suggested about the rolling body I tried rolling once. But it's my physical body that is rolled. Lol. Tried mentally roll too, still can't. Maybe i missed something. So on to my question.

My question:
-Is it a physical roll (when paralyze kicked in) or mentally (visualize) roll when the time is right or imagine to continuously roll?
-since i have no idea what kind of vibration i should expect, can anybody give me some analogy so that i will know what kind of vibration that i'm expecting?

I think most of my failures is because i tried a lot of techniques at the same time not focussed. And i kinda tired. Even when i woke up after sleep, i still feel sleepy. But that's my problem. I should try to overcome it. 

Your help is greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance