Quote from: shadow.pulsar on February 15, 2007, 10:16:27
Please see below...
Everyone is fixated on 2012, as if after it everything will change, everything will get better or worse, or it is when everyone will realize that something needs to be done and will actually get off of their rear and do something.
Here is the motivation for your post, shadow pulsar...this explains it. An understandable frustration with some people's laying back and waiting for everything to be sorted for them, withouit having to do anything.
However, that frustration doesn't warrant inventing so-called facts to try and shift those people into doing something. This is manipulation and deceit.
Here are the facts:
The Long Count calendar originated between 240 and 55 BC, according to
various specialiasts. Some people would put it back as far as Olmecs
first appearance in 1800-1500 BC. Even if we go with the statements of
Sitchin, who puts it at the start of the 13-baktun cycle, in 3114 BC,
that is only about 5,120 years ago (5125 years before 2012)....
Dendrochronologists have compared many specimens of trees and formed a
continuous chronology. By matching up the patterns of growth rings,
which are formed each year and a "fully anchored chronology which
extends back 8500 years exists for the bristlecone pine in the
Southwest US (White Mountains of California)." Also,"fully anchored
chronologies which extend back more than 10,000 years exist for river
oak trees from South Germany (from the Main and Rhine rivers)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology
Since the idea that the Earth had no tilt means that there would have
been no seasons (and no discernible solstices and equinoxes), that
means that all the ancient alignments to solstices and equinoxes would
be a coincidence. Also, there would be no tree rings, since these are
a result of the annual climatic variations due to tilt.
Even more to the point, if these were no seasons, then there would
have been no deciduous trees and plants with an annual or bi-annual
cycle. Remains of deciduous forests from the Permian period
(pre-dimosaurs)
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20041101/leaves.html
(290-248 million years ago) have been found, so that seems to knock
this theory over ...unless your distrust of geology means that you
think the Permian strata are actually only 5000 years old or less -
which implies that the Maya calendar pre-dates the dinosaurs!...(or
you believe YHVH created the world in 4004 BC).
Oh yes...and the Maya didn't "end" there are still about 6 million of
them, and they abandodned their cities between 800 AD and 900 AD, which is the end of the Classic era. They did not get "wiped out" in "13CE"! They moved down to the Yucatan, and the most likely reason according to archaeologists is a long-term drought.