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Thank you for your response, but I was referring to the process before one gets to the position where they are about to attempt an exit.... I was not referring to trying to exit.... I guess I should have worded it differently.

I think the brain wave frequency is upper level theta instead of alpha before one can consider attempting an exit... So I was searching for a way to lower the brain wave frequency to upper level theta without falling asleep...  binaural beats have no influence on me at all... it is just noise

I thought I had read in a Robert Bruce book that the way to lower one's mental state or brain wave frequency far enough to be in a position where can exit (passing the hypnogogic state) that they could try visualizing themselves walking downstairs..... while visualizing walking down stairs the person was to also feel themselves descending... the feeling of descending was supposed to lower the brain wave frequency and in the process put the body asleep, but the mind is remaining active.

Anybody have sucess working with this. I think it was in Bruce's Astral Dynamics book.

fasting in itself will not cause a person to astral project. However, fasting will raise your vibration and contrary to what you may think your body will have more energy and you will be less prone to fall deeply asleep. Although food provides the body with energy the body uses energy to digest and process the food. If a person fasts that energy is available. Food weighs the body down. In the absence of the food the body is lighter or not weighed down by food and will vibrate at a higher rate.

Vibrating at a higher rate and having more energy together do not cause an astral projection, but they improve the likelihood of one being successful. A person still has to be able to exit their body.

If a person is very sick they are less likey to be eating much thereby making astral projection easier. Many of Muldoon's astral travels were when he was sick.

I am not advocating fasting for days. I would suggest eating a decent dinner one night and then only drinking water or water mixed with some juice the next day then trying to astral project that night. At the very least you probably will nopt fall into a deep sleep such that you do not remember anything.

Experiment with it. Good luck

Thank you for your responses. I have tried Binaurals that I have found online.... none of them have had any impact on me. I did try them with headphones.

I have signed up for an OBE Intensive seminar where I believe they will be playing Binaurals at a 4 Hz level which is in the bottom end of the Theta range.

I am hoping to be able to teach myself to be able to bring myself to a lower brain wave state without the use of external stimuli.

I am curious if that author specifies how deep in Alpha one has to be in order to project.

It seems that when one does astrally project they are in the low theta brain wave state about 4 Hz.

My goal is to be able to accomplish AP at will.

It seems that if I can train myself to get into Alpha and then lower myself in the low theta state then I should have no difficulty accomplishing a AP in that state. The difficulty is lowering myself from Alpha to Theta without falling to quickly and completely going to sleep.

Any suggestions on preventing oneself from falling asleep while going deep into theta?

I have read that trataka is a good method for opening the third eye. Trataka is essentially gazing at a candle flame.