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Hi all,

This relates to the post that weagle made in the OBE discussions section, under "astral projection free course".

The courses (astral projection, self-knowledge, and Esoteric) are, as many of you know, found at //www.mysticweb.org .

I am in week two of the self-knowledge course and have to say it has greatly influenced how I think and act over just the past few days. I feel the course gives you so much to contemplate. In week 2, the author writes all about becoming aware (very important[]) throughout the day and outlines the different egos and selves that are in control of rapidly changing moods and emotions that usually clog up our serenity and wisdom. Then he gives a freely downloadable version of a book called "Revolutionary Psychology" which goes into the depths of human consciousness and gives new perspectives as to the probabilities of why the world is in the way it is now.

I highly recommend this course and the other free courses to anyone who is seriously searching for spiritual growth. The Astral course may not be the most interesting, but the self-knowledge is, and I believe the Esoteric course is just the same. You may have to wait a while to join, but the rewards are amazing, even if the information given can at least give you some inspiration and guidelines to think about.

I can hardly wait for week 3[]!

-makelight3

Hi all!

In my last post I inquired about inducing WILD without the uses of Gotu Kola or Hemi-Sync tapes. Thanks silva for the advice about the questioning and dream journal; I find these enhance the overall dream recall and quality of dreams.

Over the past few days, I have created a method for experiencing this naturally. I have collected every practise of trance, relaxation, etc. that I find useful and put them into one method. (not that it is new or anything, just something to experiment around with[] Here it is:
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* Be involved in as much LD related topics as you can in conjunction with dream recall, journal entries, reality checks, awareness, etc.

Preparation
1. Go to bed as NATURALLY as you can using things such as brushing your teeth and putting on PJ's as cues for the night's sleeping and dreaming. Nothing needs to be forced or "artificial".

Stage 1
2. Hop into bed and settle yourself for a few minutes. When you are comfortable, say an intent or affirmation regarding your wish to have a WILD. Say it out loud if possible and state it clearly and firmly. Really focus on the desire to have a WILD.

Stage 2
3. Begin the deep physical relaxation method (tense and relax method) and use it until you feel very relaxed. You should feel a cozy type of sensation. Your WHOLE body should be free of tension before you continue.

Stage 3
4. Induce the trance state by means of a mental falling sensation. Really feel as if you were falling off a cliff or something, just feel yourself falling. This step is not necessary but it will greatly enhance sleep which will make you forget about your body. You've reached a perfect level when you feel the "warm-and-fuzzy" feeling and a physical exhaustion as if you were lifting weights all day.

Stage 4
5. By now, you'll know you've reached the proper state when your body goes numb and your head sort of feels as if it were separating. Hypnogogia should be present so use this to visualize a scene or even a simple, 3D geometric shape. The idea here is to make the image as real and life-like looking as possible. This should not be hard to do at this level of consciousness. Once you arrive at a nice realistic picture, try to enter it by pretending that you are moving inside of it like a video game, or stepping into it like a porthole. Just don't begin focusing on your physical body or lose focus. CONCENTRATE!

Important: It is very important to focus on the task at hand and not to lose focus. Ignore any hypnogogia or use them to enhance your created WILD-scape. Wait patiently and hang on; if everything goes right, you should get there.

Best to use with...
You can use the above procedure when you go to bed at night, or, if you have time, you can use it with the Wake/Back to Bed technique, wherein you go to sleep for 6 or so hours, wake up in the early morning (around 4-5 am) and stay awake (get out of bed) for 15-30 minutes, and then go back to sleep. The chances of getting a WILD or a regular LD are VERY high, so this is recommended.
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I have not yet had a WILD with this procedure but have come very close. Lots of practise is needed so results are definitely not instantaneous, but I believe it is very effective and if it becomes a habit, it can be as natural as plainly falling asleep with no WILD intended.

I have so far experienced up to the far trance stage within this method, and have had VERY intense hypnogogic sounds. I very often hear a mature man's voice mumbling something very close to my ear.
It usually startles me right out of bed, and my body responds with a strong jerk, making me do the whole procedure once more, that is if I am not to frightened to continue. Yes, I am working on overcoming my fear with those sounds. They are by far the most cryptical noises I have ever heard in my life![xx(]

But anyway, I would appreciate if anyone could give any feedback on the effectiveness of this method; it has helped me greatly.

Thanks, and good luck.[]

Hi everyone!

I've gotten really interested in WILD's but have only experienced them spontaneously. I was wondering if anyone could give me some info or WILD websites that instruct on how to induce this type of dream WITHOUT the use of the Hemi-Sync tapes or Gotu Kola, and so on;
Just... *naturally*. Any advice would be great.

Thanks!

Hi all! Has anyone here read "Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damnest Thing" by Jed McKenna. Just asking, because I was hoping to buy it, but it would be nice to hear some comments about it from others.[]

Love and Light to everyone.

and...!

Thank you so much for posting that site. Those pictures are absolutely incredible and truly reflect the Universe.

Thanks again,(speechless[:O])

makelight3

Thank you timeless for sharing your amazing post. It inspires me to see that one must conquer oneself before one can love the world. Especially in the Western society, humans are so engrained with material and 'self' posessions that we destroy our spirit and in turn, the world into a muddy confusion. We complain about things that we do not realize we created, and worst of all, love has almost gone unfelt among the population. People are either so arrogant and ignorant, that they do not realize what the ALL is, let alone feel how ALL affects each and every one of us in an underlying way, or they are so sensitive to external influences that they allow these to control their lives.
I believe that no matter who one may be, we all have a purpose on Earth and are set to put that purpose into action. One must find and clear themselves before they are ready to spread that unearthly spark to others who are equally equipped to handle it. I think that's how it roughly works, but words could NEVER decribe the power of ALL; it is probably just too great for a human mind to detect it.
We must try though.

--makelight3

Well, it's wierd how things work, isn't it?

Hi there!

It's amazing how many things a being can go through between life times(or what is BELIEVED a being can go through). I am a bit confused though with the "sneaky" entities that try to mislead you into becoming what your karma wishes to put you into. I always thought that when a person dies, they hover around for days to weeks even, then go into higher planes (like Robert Bruce describes). Sure the person's spirit will run into some wierd and downright evil spirits[}:)], but then where is God, or The Great Spirit that protects the spirit? I thought that a person is much stronger and more powerful as a spirit and can have a great potential of wisdom and choice of where he/she/it wants to go in its next lifetime, with regards to the level of love and consciousness (karma and life habits) the spirit has reached through other past lives. Also, if a spirit loses total memory of its past life, how can past life regression be possible?

Sorry if the above sounds a bit rude, I'm just really curious and confused with the actual direction and path one takes in general and if there is possibility of "finishing" Earthly lives to become a being of the whole universe or become one with The Great Spirit.

Where IS our home?[xx(]

Best wishes.

Hi Tarconiss,

Though I have yet to experience a "formal" lucid dream[:I], I would suggest that you try some energy work before bed. It really helps with dream recall and control. Also, when you are in your dream, try doing verbal comands. in other words, say adn expect what you want, to happen. eg. "STRENGTHEN DREAM STABILITY NOW!", and so on. I've heard these commands work well.

Best wishes,[]

makelight3

Hi DjM,

I just wanted to thank you for your incredible advice. I am currently in a state where I am VERY confused with all the life lessons given in spiritual development books and other sources. But your "Six Essential Exercises" summarized the fundamentals of life's wisdom and love. I believe that one has to "psych" oneself up with this kind of vital information before they can even touch a foot to the simplest of spiritual or psychic work. The exercises and training for esoteric work can all come later, but something like the wisdom you gave can release tonnes of frusteration adn confusion later.

Thanks again! []

makelight3

Hi Child,

I read about your encounter with those negative thoughts. I have an
idea myself of what they're like; it's almost like a miniature posession of the mind.[}:)] Though I have not tried these myself, I suggest you use conjurations. These are powerful phrases said with
some physical action. For more info, check out //www.mysticweb.org and their free courses on astral travel and self-knowledge. But here are the conjurations:

CONJURATION OF JUPITER:

This one requires a physical action. Put your left hand over your solar plexus center(above navel) and, with your right hand, make a gun shape with your thumb, index, and middle finger extended, pointing in the direction you feel the "entity" to be in. Then say the following phrase three or more times:

In the name of Jupiter,
Father of Gods,
I conjure you,
Te Vigos Cosilim.

Say it firmly and with much intent.

CONJURATION OF BELLILIN:

You have to sing this one:

Bellilin, Bellilin, Bellilin,
Amphora of salvation,
I would like to be next to you,
Materialism has no strength next to me,
Bellilin, Bellilin, Bellilin.

Don't do any action with this one, but again, say it very firmly, three times or more.

Again, I'm not sure how eefective these are but many people have said they work really well. They work for any type of entity attack, not just the "negative mind" problem. Try them.

I wish you the best,

light[]