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First, i want to appologize for asking such a triviell question...

I would like to start raising energy into my sub-navel energy storage center,
at the same time as i am stimulating secondary energy cirucuits.
Is this okay? Should i wait with raising energy, until i know i am blockage
free and have a good foundation for flowing energy through my body?

Thanks in advance!
(Thanks to Tom for answering my last triviell question!)

Does anyone know when the book New Energy Ways will be available?
Is Bruce still writing on it[?]

Hello Helmut!
Odd, your letter was so...friendly.
I feel so glad that I am a part of this community.

I am in a rush right now, but you can find
a demo of Holosync on

http://www.centerpointe.com

Don't think the demo takes you to delta, though.

Thanks for the Soultravel-article. I needed it, and suddenly
it was there. Seems like all exploring is spirtitual.

The basic tenet of the Tibetan Dzogchen practice, is that
reality, including the individual, is allready perfect and
complete, and need only be recognized for what it truly is.
  Some buddhist masters become fully realized, and when they
die, they get what is called "the energy body". The physical
body dissolves, leaving only hair and nails.

I really want your opinion on this: The full realization,
that the buddhist talk about...Do you think that is the
ultimate goal? That like love is something to live for,
so is also full realization? That every humans goal is
this realization? Then what? What does universe/god/conscious
want that for? Is the universe better explored when
humans have full realization? Peace, love and happiness,
is obviously positive, but is it NEEDED? Does the universe
NEED humans to have full realization? Or is it all for fun?
The universe just dancing with itself, for fun, with
absolutely nothing having to be accomplished or recognized?

I hope you give me lots of opinions on this.

Yours

Frank, maybe this is more compreshensible for you:
"Is the MESSAGE annoying?"

But, the effects are not the same.
I think Holosync is much better, and it
is not about the experience, but the effects
of the experience.

Greetings MJ-12!

I think you wore a little cynical in your last letter!

Say you normally get an input of 10(whatever that means).
Let's say that using Awakening Prolog gives you
an accumulated input of 12. Your brain cannot handle
this input, and so must either collapse or reorganize
at a higher level. Then you give it a input of 14.
Again, it must reorganize at a higher level. Say that
using the last level, makes your brain reorganize so it
can handle an input of 36! What happens now? Well, you
stop using Holosync, which gives you an input of 10 again!
You have now an extremely high level for stess, and
dysfunctional feelings will become kinda extinct. You
can still feel feelings like anger and fear, but you
can choose to feel other ways, and you are not controlled
by your feelings, you are just aware that they exist,
as if you are knowing some other person has feelings
of anger of fear.

Yes, the doses are higher and higher. But, you cannot
go for the deeper levels without freaking out! You
have to progress step by step.

I don't meditate without the program, only sleep.
I haven't felt trance with it yet.

I forgot to answer both of the alternative meanings
of MJ-12's question.

Yes, you can meditate the traditional way, even if you
are listening to Holosync, but don't listen to Holosync
much, or you'll freak out! (Too much input to your brain.)

If you feel like freaking out when using the program, you
can take a break. You have probably alot of other stuff
happening in you life that pushes your brain for what it
can handle. That means both Holosync and life in general
is pushing your brain.
I think I would just let it push me, and observe what
was happening to me. Buddhist calls this
"letting all that arises in experience be as it is,
without grasping or aversion". Bill Harris calls it
The Watcher-perspective. Holosync develops this
super-awareness anyway, but you can speed development
by attaining this Watcher-perspective on things, today.

I have been on the internet for a long time now!

Nick:
Acciouly, Centerpointe Research Institute convinced
me of their uniqeness, and I don't know any other company
than Centerpointe and the Monroe Institute that sells this
kind of technology. I shall investigate Monroe's Hemi-sync more
properly, but I doubt their technology can be much better
than the Holosync technology. (Prize might be lower, though.)
Centerpointe uses Silent Subliminal personal affirmations in
their 12 levels following the Awakening Prolog.
  My main reason for purchasing Holosync, was not of spiritual
lines, but because of that I was tired of dysfunctional feelings,
and because I wanted brain-syncronization, better mental
ability and clearity...and stuff like that. I realized though,
that this developes everthing! Bill Harris'(president) litterature
became a window on eastern religions, which I have gotten a
larger interest on now. So much came together with Holosync,
and I am very greatful for finding it. After listening it
in the evening, I feel like a peek-performancer. Thinking gets
very enjoyable.

Holosync is, like Sahlyn said, not for
the meditation-experience, but for the effects of it.
Centerpointe made me believe that the Monroe Institute's programs
are more about the experience. I copied this from
the address Sahlyn wrote:

"We have many ex-Monroe people in our program, and they all tell us what we have is light years beyond what the Monroe Institute is doing. Once you experience it for yourself I think you'll agree, too.

I don't intend any of this to be a put-down of the Monroe Institute, whose tapes are very good. Bob Monroe was a pioneer in this field and we all owe him a lot. We just believe we've taken things to a whole new level."

"they all tell us what we have is light years beyond what the Monroe Institute is doing" Sounds like propaganda, but there must be some
truth to it, reckon?

MJ-12: Yes, your brain improoves, and that a lot.
If the brain just got used to the technology, and nothing
more happend, why create the technology?!
I am not sure if you are asking if I can meditate without
Holosync, or if you can meditate when you are not using it,
so I'll answer them both.
  Not to mention the difficult for beginning meditators
to go deep, I found it very difficult to make meditation
a daily habbit. I just didn't meditate very much with
traditional meditation. But with Holosync, it is almost
to easy, and you also go very deep... I can imagine
traditional meditators being upset that this technology
exists, and that they find it unspiritual or something.
Hard feelings about a technology, which can make
everyone enjoy the benefits of meditation(accelerative
such) is crayzy! They should try Holosync, so that they
no longer have to be prisoned in their envy!

Psypunk:
"I tried it and I didn't like it. I like normal meditation better.
After listening to the sample on the internet my brain felt numb...not stimulated."
It is not about what you feel under the Holosync-meditation,
but what is happening. Also, how you feel under the meditation
isn't always the same. It doesn't matter how you feel or what
you think: The meditation is caused by the sound-technology,
and not by that you are focusing on you breathing or a mantra
or whatever. If you don't feel deep, it doesn't matter.
If your mind is full of thoughts, it doesn't matter. What
matters is that you use it!
(The headphones can make you feel numb.)

So, it is not about the experience, but about the effects of it.
The experience can be great, though.

And my name is Noradrenalin, not NoradrenalinE.
Noradrenalin is the norweigan word for noradrenaline.
Maybe i should change it...Argh!

Greetings!

Parmenion:
Is the message annoying? Now, that is too abstract for me!
I would rather say that you got annoyed. Either way, you loose...
But, hopefully, it was a one-time-coinsidence. Still, I posted
it only in forums where it was logical to post it, and not
in places like "Integral Philosophy".

Mirador:
I'm not dependent on it, and it is only stimulation,
your brain does the whole thing. I don't think such
technology is unspiritual. I think it can accelerate
sprirtual development. It is not supposed to be used
forever, and when you are done with it, you can for
example meditate much better without the technology,
than you could, before you started using the technology.
Of course, there are many other benefits than this.

You don't need to close your eyes to relax, but it sure helps!
And what has happend is only this: a change of enviroment.

Have fun!

I didn't know the Monroe Institute used
special frequencies that doesn't make the
effects of the technology wear off, due to
adaption. Thanks for the information.

I am very sorry!
The tile of my message, BREAKTROUGH TECHNOLOGY,
was misleading.

The start of this technology was in 1972, I think,
when a guy called Gerald Oster found out that when
you send one tone of one frequency into one ear and
another tone of another frequency into another ear
(located on the other side of your head), the brain
starts producing large quantities of brain waves
with a frequency of the difference between the 2
frequencies(210Hz and 200Hz makes 10 Hz). It starts
in the olivary nucleus and spreads so your whole brain
resonates.

Robert Monroe of the Institute of Applied Science experimented
much with this technology, and I understand it so, that one
thing he did with it, was to get into a deep brain wave pattern
so he could have an OBE. The Centerpointe approach was available
to the public, trough their Holosync-technology(which they
have improved; they have also improoved their litterature)in 1989.
The Centerpointe approach is, as far as i know, uniqe with
their system of lowering carrier frequency. If there exists
other organizations which sells this technology, i would be
happy to know, but Centerpointe was the first that used this
system of lowering the carrier frequency, and I doubt that any
organization has a more professional way of dealing with this
technology, or that the litterature they send you is better,
more informative, more enlightening.

There are alot of sound tecnology out there, but technology
which creates auditory beat patterns in the brain, probably is
the most important.

If you are interested in superlearning or the Tomatis Method,
I can tell you that Centerpointe will send you CD's which
with you can superlearn and enjoy the effects of the Tomatis
Method(high frequency sounds, bla bla).

Once again: I am sorry for calling it breaktrough technology.
I realize that it was a stupid title(though, maybe effective).
But, the important was that you read the message.
I will stop scribling now.

I am very sorry!
The tile of my message, BREAKTROUGH TECHNOLOGY,
was misleading.

The start of this technology was in 1972, I think,
when a guy called Gerald Oster found out that when
you send one tone of one frequency into one ear and
another tone of another frequency into another ear
(located on the other side of your head), the brain
starts producing large quantities of brain waves
with a frequency of the difference between the 2
frequencies(210Hz and 200Hz makes 10 Hz). It starts
in the olivary nucleus and spreads so your whole brain
resonates.

Robert Monroe of the Institute of Applied Science experimented
much with this technology, and I understand it so, that one
thing he did with it, was to get into a deep brain wave pattern
so he could have an OBE. The Centerpointe approach was available
to the public, trough their Holosync-technology(which they
have improved; they have also improoved their litterature)in 1989.
The Centerpointe approach is, as far as i know, uniqe with
their system of lowering carrier frequency. If there exists
other organizations which sells this technology, i would be
happy to know, but Centerpointe was the first that used this
system of lowering the carrier frequency, and I doubt that any
organization has a more professional way of dealing with this
technology, or that the litterature they send you is better,
more informative, more enlightening.

There are alot of sound tecnology out there, but technology
which creates auditory beat patterns in the brain, probably is
the most important.

If you are interested in superlearning or the Tomatis Method,
I can tell you that Centerpointe will send you CD's which
with you can superlearn and enjoy the effects of the Tomatis
Method(high frequency sounds, bla bla).

Once again: I am sorry for calling it breaktrough technology.
I realize that it was a stupid title(though, maybe effective).
But, the important was that you read the message.
I will stop scribling now.

I am very sorry!
The tile of my message, BREAKTROUGH TECHNOLOGY,
was misleading.

The start of this technology was in 1972, I think,
when a guy called Gerald Oster found out that when
you send one tone of one frequency into one ear and
another tone of another frequency into another ear
(located on the other side of your head), the brain
starts producing large quantities of brain waves
with a frequency of the difference between the 2
frequencies(210Hz and 200Hz makes 10 Hz). It starts
in the olivary nucleus and spreads so your whole brain
resonates.

Robert Monroe of the Institute of Applied Science experimented
much with this technology, and I understand it so, that one
thing he did with it, was to get into a deep brain wave pattern
so he could have an OBE. The Centerpointe approach was available
to the public, trough their Holosync-technology(which they
have improved; they have also improoved their litterature)in 1989.
The Centerpointe approach is, as far as i know, uniqe with
their system of lowering carrier frequency. If there exists
other organizations which sells this technology, i would be
happy to know, but Centerpointe was the first that used this
system of lowering the carrier frequency, and I doubt that any
organization has a more professional way of dealing with this
technology, or that the litterature they send you is better,
more informative, more enlightening.

There are alot of sound tecnology out there, but technology
which creates auditory beat patterns in the brain, probably is
the most important.

If you are interested in superlearning or the Tomatis Method,
I can tell you that Centerpointe will send you CD's which
with you can superlearn and enjoy the effects of the Tomatis
Method(high frequency sounds, bla bla).

Once again: I am sorry for calling it breaktrough technology.
I realize that it was a stupid title(though, maybe effective).
But, the important was that you read the message.
I will stop scribling now.

I am very sorry!
The tile of my message, BREAKTROUGH TECHNOLOGY,
was misleading.

The start of this technology was in 1972, I think,
when a guy called Gerald Oster found out that when
you send one tone of one frequency into one ear and
another tone of another frequency into another ear
(located on the other side of your head), the brain
starts producing large quantities of brain waves
with a frequency of the difference between the 2
frequencies(210Hz and 200Hz makes 10 Hz). It starts
in the olivary nucleus and spreads so your whole brain
resonates.

Robert Monroe of the Institute of Applied Science experimented
much with this technology, and I understand it so, that one
thing he did with it, was to get into a deep brain wave pattern
so he could have an OBE. The Centerpointe approach was available
to the public, trough their Holosync-technology(which they
have improved; they have also improoved their litterature)in 1989.
The Centerpointe approach is, as far as i know, uniqe with
their system of lowering carrier frequency. If there exists
other organizations which sells this technology, i would be
happy to know, but Centerpointe was the first that used this
system of lowering the carrier frequency, and I doubt that any
organization has a more professional way of dealing with this
technology, or that the litterature they send you is better,
more informative, more enlightening.

There are alot of sound tecnology out there, but technology
which creates auditory beat patterns in the brain, probably is
the most important.

If you are interested in superlearning or the Tomatis Method,
I can tell you that Centerpointe will send you CD's which
with you can superlearn and enjoy the effects of the Tomatis
Method(high frequency sounds, bla bla).

Once again: I am sorry for calling it breaktrough technology.
I realize that it was a stupid title(though, maybe effective).
But, the important was that you read the message.
I will stop scribling now.

I am very sorry!
The tile of my message, BREAKTROUGH TECHNOLOGY,
was misleading.

The start of this technology was in 1972, I think,
when a guy called Gerald Oster found out that when
you send one tone of one frequency into one ear and
another tone of another frequency into another ear
(located on the other side of your head), the brain
starts producing large quantities of brain waves
with a frequency of the difference between the 2
frequencies(210Hz and 200Hz makes 10 Hz). It starts
in the olivary nucleus and spreads so your whole brain
resonates.

Robert Monroe of the Institute of Applied Science experimented
much with this technology, and I understand it so, that one
thing he did with it, was to get into a deep brain wave pattern
so he could have an OBE. The Centerpointe approach was available
to the public, trough their Holosync-technology(which they
have improved; they have also improoved their litterature)in 1989.
The Centerpointe approach is, as far as i know, uniqe with
their system of lowering carrier frequency. If there exists
other organizations which sells this technology, i would be
happy to know, but Centerpointe was the first that used this
system of lowering the carrier frequency, and I doubt that any
organization has a more professional way of dealing with this
technology, or that the litterature they send you is better,
more informative, more enlightening.

There are alot of sound tecnology out there, but technology
which creates auditory beat patterns in the brain, probably is
the most important.

If you are interested in superlearning or the Tomatis Method,
I can tell you that Centerpointe will send you CD's which
with you can superlearn and enjoy the effects of the Tomatis
Method(high frequency sounds, bla bla).

Once again: I am sorry for calling it breaktrough technology.
I realize that it was a stupid title(though, maybe effective).
But, the important was that you read the message.
I will stop scribling now.