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#1
Thank you for such a great answer, I truly hope I can achieve an OBE one day


Quote from: deepspace on March 11, 2014, 06:18:55
My opinion is that all "reality" is subjective, mainly due to the fact that in order for you to experience reality you must create it internally by taking in data through your senses and projecting it onto your internal screen. So in effect we are always experiencing reality through our inner mind if you want to call it that.

The more "shared" a reality is the more objective it seems but what we are really experiencing is stability and consistency, defined rule set, etc. not true objectivity. So when you project, you can end up in realities that are shared or just completely created by yourself. Of course you are always participating in that creation at some level, experiencing that reality through your own perception. There are often other entities there, maybe they are part of your creation or maybe not. So they may also be looking at you, maybe even wondering the same thing.

People often ask things like "But how do I know it's real?" or "What if I'm just imagining all of it?" From an experiential point of view, these things don't really matter. The only thing that is real is your experience. The value of an experience lies outside the concept of "what is real". If it turns out that our entire life is some kind of virtual reality simulation, it will have no less value from an experiential point of view. We don't need to invest ourselves into any realities by creating beliefs, whether it's our physical or non-physical world. I've spent quite a bit of time in the Astral trying to be skeptical, thinking to myself "I don't believe any of this is real." Then doing every test I could possibly do to try to prove I was right. My refusal to believe just turned out to be a waste of energy really, and didn't change anything, unless it got to the point where my intent changed. So basically going from "I don't believe this is real" to "I don't want this to be real" At that point you are exercising choice and of course you will create change. So my advice is don't put too much energy into trying to analyze the Astral, it's really way beyond that. Often, you can't even use words to describe it because there is no translation. The main thing is to just be there.



#2
Quote from: deepspace on March 09, 2014, 22:31:31
Sounds like your getting close so keep trying. I've had quite a few mind-blowing OBE experiences in the NPR and it's well worth the effort required to get there. There are completely real worlds you can experience in exactly the same way you experience waking life. Really made me reevaluate my concept of reality that's for sure. Once you touch it you know.

Thank you so much. One thing I was wondering, was reading a series of posts here by Frank Kepple (actually looked like someone compiled all of his posts) and he had some theories similar to Robert Monroe but one stated (focus area 2) that an OBE is really us exploring our inner mind, and as such, is a subjective reality  (vs. shared) within ourselves.  Was thinking though, don't you interact with each other/other entities? So was thinking it was more of a shared experience.

In any event, I'm excited to try.. was funny, was listening to a binaural youtube vid when that heavy vibration came on; felt so much like electricity and that I was falling (happened to be on my side at the time). I tend to look at this as exploration of normal but untapped human abilities vs. a paranormal type thing but I could be wrong.  Ok sorry, think I'm rambling.. like a kid in a candy store, this is one of the most exciting things that I've wanted to do for years and its about 40 years since I've tried.
#3
New here and have not had an obe yet but very much interested in your experiences. Tried once as a child; had a negative experience with a shadow so only thought about trying again recently (been looking at a lot of Robert monroe vids).  Had an experience last month where I started to vibrate but got scared and stopped; hoping to try again next week.