Quote from: jonnydreamer on March 21, 2014, 13:31:53
... can you as individual "Projectors" If I may use the word. Know is real based on your individual experiences. And can you explain all of this to me. And also what is the concept of astral projection anyways. Projecting what? And to where? that sorta thing. I am very open minded just trying to understand...
The concept of "Phasing" may give you some insight to your questions. Here is a resource on this board
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html
The terms "out of body" and "projecting" lag behind our understanding as we share experiences. So, I wouldn't get too hung up on the words. It's not where you go but where your attention is focused.
Imagine for a moment that you have never looked up at the sky. All you have done your whole life is look down at the ground. One day, inexplicably, you decide to look up and realize there is a much wider world around you. It would seem like a totally different world. Or try hanging upside down sometime and see how different things look. Better yet go back to looking at the world from 2 feet tall. It looks completely different and helps you remember what it was like as a child.
Descartes realized that he couldn't prove his own existence and said "I think therefore I am". It is about the experience. You might say, "But this world is very real and has consequences". This thought will unravel if you trace it back to the Big Bang and then say "ok now what". You are left with a system that has compressed the entire Universe into the particle the size of an electron and absolutely everything has merged.
The point is to challenge what you believe and move on to what you know from your experience. I suggest that your experience of pure radiant love or the Holy Spirit is the same experience as an OOBE. It happens on the same level. You are at the same place. It is merely a question of focus.
I believe most hear will tell you to do two things:
1.) Keep an open mind and be ready to experience your personal journey
2.) Keep an open heart because we each have our own personal journey
You seem to have both. You are heading down the right path.
I will say one last thing in the spirit of a personal challenge. Ask yourself how your concept of demons formed. Was it from passages like Revelation 12:9. If this were truly an OOBE experienced by John then it may help to read about other peoples experiences on demons in this state. Their experiences are no more or less valid than John's.
Compare that to passages such as Matthew 8:16. Are these the same type of words? I encourage you to look up the greek words. If you had the ability to heal the sick how would you describe it to somebody 2000 years ago. Would you say that you took away the bacteria or would you use the words of the time?