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You know I was thinking this in my opinion one of the best astral sites I know that is  loaded with information and I would sure hate to see if disappear as you just never know what may happen I think something if is has not been done already to preserver this site for the future and beyond...

Yep, I don't want it to dessapear either; I've been visiting it recently to learn more about the AP topic, it definitely has valuable information. We should do something about it 

Well, I appreciate the clarification on Frank's fate.

At least we now know.

Thank you!

Just for the sake of clarity and to put the speculation to bed -

Frank did indeed die of a sudden terminal illness. There is a thread on the admin forum in which he relates this to other administrators at the time.

Do we have access to that thread?

Can't see it... 

[I'm currently on page 470 of the Frank PDF and so far]

Projecting (or phasing) - perhaps. But documenting his experiences? No, probably not.

I'm currently on page 470 of the Frank PDF and so far, Frank has written very few experiences
of his own. Those few Frank experiences I've found so far, are very short and incomplete
in amount of details.

It's strikingly.

Hello all,

Is this extended PDF with Frank's posts still available?

Regards

What do you think?

I think that seeking help in forums about OBE's, Meditation, Body-Mind-Spirit, etc. usually turn to be more harmful than beneficial, especially when there are too many 'full cups' out there who think they are in possession of THE TRUTH about the topic.

People tend to forget easily how it is like to be a beginner; the lack of ability to convey knowledge is also common in forums & discussion groups. Internet is a blessing for many things, but there is also so much noise...

You guys are confusing me now. Should I expect something? Should I not?

Should I drop it all because the effort it's not worth it, because the goal is too high, because I've read too much, because I haven't read it all?

Well, actually I'm not expecting anything. I don't know where these practices would take me, that's why I'm asking what you meant in your last post. I'd just like to experience and o.o.b.e, I don't mind where my consciousness will 'awakes', my room, an island, the Moon.. I'll try to observe wherever the scenario might be.

Just to clarify for myself what do you mean when you say astral project? Do you simply mean to project into the astral rather than the RTZ (as RB would term it)? Because if that's the case then personally I would go with the Gateway.

Is there much difference? I've read many books on the topics in the past years, but you know that every author gives his own definition so, in that sense, you can say I'm new to all this jargon.

If I understood it right, if I want to project into my room, house, for visiting my friends and family, to see what they are doing while I'm projecting, etc. I should try the Gateway Experience. However, if I want 'to visit' what Frank Kepple called Focus 2 or 3 (I mention him because I'm currently reading this link), I should try The Journey O.O.B.E Hemi-Sync...?

Hello Floriferous,

Thank you for the clarification.

Since I'm searching for a tool in order to AP, perhaps I should try The Journey O.O.B.E Hemi-Sync first and see how it works.

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When people speak about projecting into their bedroom, they're not ACTUALLY in their bedroom.  They're not within what they would consider their bedroom within this physical reality.  They're in a non-physically created room to their memory of their room.  This is why things aren't always as they seem to be... or as they call it, the Alice-in-Wonderland effect.

Does that help?

So, the Journey O.O.B.E Hemi-Sync takes you to a 'closer-to-the-physical' reality while the Gateway Hemi-Sync takes you (if it works) to a different reality / dimension / realm?

Sorry to bother you with all these questions. Over the years I've been reading on and off much about AP/OBE's (forums, books, articles, tv and radio shows, etc) and in this time of my life I would like to give it a serious try to see how this can help me grow spiritually.

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Hello Xanth,

Firstly, thanks for replying so soon;

You said:

When he says it's "geared towards OBE's", PR means that when you use these, you'll more than likely end up in a reality which is similar to this physical reality.  More often than not, you'll find yourself in the surroundings where your physical body is actually.

It's still a projection.  Or whatever you want to call it... you're just in (mostly) familiar surroundings.

So, according to this, the Gateway Series would take you to a less similar reality?

I am new to the Hemi-Sync products and I don't know the differences among the Gateway, Journeys Out-of-Body and Lucid Dreams Series; I thought they all were the same stuff with the same goal 

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I haven't been using gateway lately, but I have been using the "Journeys Out of Body" Hemi-Sync.  It's shorter, but it's geared towards OBE.  Particularly Condition D.  I've used Condition D as the background for my own self-hypnosis scripts as well as for helping my to enter trance states faster.

Isn't The Gateway series geared towards OBE's also? You got me puzzled with that comment... Could you (or anybody else since this is -and I'm sorry about 'waking up this old thread) expand on this?

Regards,
W.