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@Xanth: I am to help change the education system in a big way... I don't know how many others I will be working with... But I know I have to completely re-structure the education paradigm, and I know it's big... but let me just say, the universe has already set those wheels in motion as I've crossed paths with a couple of people who are vital to my journey. It's already happening...

 

Success! I got there through meditation. I didn't get to experience it for more than a second or two, but I was there... I had just finished watching the second Zeitgeist film, and boy did that help me to WAKE UP... once I had seen the truth, and discovered my true purpose for this world, astral projection was able to come naturally!

By the way, if you haven't found the 'red pill' yet, watch Zeitgeist 1, 2, and 3. Please, wake up to the truth and you will be set free!!!

That makes sense. That would explain why as soon as the music stopped I was able to transition so suddenly. I will try out 10 minutes of music to block out the extraneous street noise... and then silence.

Thanks Bluefire and Xanth, I have taken in what both of you have said and after some more meditating it has sunk in as well.

I had a meditation session just before writing this post and had some very real progress.

As I type this, my whole state of 'being' is still vibrating, even after the meditation has ended. Quite a profound feeling.

This is probably going to sound very amateur to experienced meditation practitioners, and indeed it is amateur, but I will admit I have been using music as an aide for my meditation (a crutch if you will).

Let me take you through what happened in this session:

I listened to music very quietly through stereo headphones (Koan - The sound of silence)
Without even needing to focus on relaxing my body, or use countdown methods, and just 'existing', I reached the point of 'wobbling' in less than 5 minutes. I did not focus on anything but 'being' (and I wouldn't even call it a focus, because if you are focusing, you are not 'being'). Most times the 'wobble' point takes 10-20 minutes, so for this to happen in under 5 minutes this is good progress already. The wobbling continued for the next 20 minutes, varying in speed and direction, and I just allowed my existence to go with anything that was happening. My physical awareness was significantly less than the last time I had meditated too, and I did feel like I'd plunged deeper, just by shutting off everything in the mind and just 'being' (no visualizations of ropes and phantom limbs!)

Nothing happened... then the music got to the end of the stream and stopped.

Silence. Then, after a minute or two, a 'different' kind of wobble took place, and I began to feel my physical awareness disappear almost completely. As I shook, I could feel my consciousness shake too! The alien experience caused thoughts to rush through my mind, and I didn't go further.. I seemed to let excitement get the better of me as I knew I had made progress.

What have I learned through this?

I am convinced it was the music preventing me from going deeper. Perhaps it was a reminder that I was still connected aurally to my physical body. Without that connection to the hearing senses, I could let my physical awareness simply disappear. I could come to the existential awareness that I was just a point of consciousness in the astral plane.

I will no longer meditate with music now.

I feel I must be extraordinarily close to reaching the void... just a matter of getting used to these new experiences and I will be able to breakthrough.

Let me know what you think of these musings.   

Thank you guys, that's really helpful information, both of you!

When you say 'I just create the right circumstances' Lionheart, could you elaborate a little on this? What are the circumstances you are creating before you allow what happens to happen?

I will check out your links too, especially phasing.

I think these 'climbing' techniques were perhaps misleading to me, as they turn meditation into 'interactivity', rather than just 'existence'. From my reading the consensus seems to be that the less you 'make something happen', the more likely it is to happen. Does this carry any credence to it?

I can hear Alan Watts' words. Wise, wise words indeed.

[Why does my consciousness stay in the physical body, while I wave goodbye to the astral one?Is this a simulation of the mind, and are the physiological responses such as 'not being able to breathe' and 'temperature dropping' just ways of my brain making sense of my expectations?Am I doing something wrong along the way? Should I be going about it differently?]

Hi there,

For the past couple of weeks I have been attempting astral projection through meditation.

* I know this isn't easy, and most people seem to recommend projecting as soon as you wake up in the morning, but it feels natural for me to do it through meditation, so I'm sticking with it.

I am getting very close to success, I know I am, but I keep coming across the same hurdle each time, and need some knowledge and guidance to overcome it. Each time my astral body separates from the physical, my consciousness does not move with it, instead my consciousness remains in my body while I feel my astral self move further and further away.

Let me give you a recount of my most recent meditation session that culminated in an AP attempt, to give you some context on this.

I begin by sitting cross legged on my bed, back straight, completely comfortable, hands resting limply on my knees, palms facing outwards. I close my eyes, and keep them closed for the entire meditation session. I relax all my body parts one by one through the method of visualization. I then count down slowly from 100 to 0, breathing naturally and never forcing the breath. When I reach 0, I am quite numb and feeling entirely at peace with myself. I then begin another countdown from 30 to 0, and by this stage I am in a fully meditative state of trance. My body is weightless, I am floating, as if I am a boat on the surface of a still lake.

Then, the next phase begins. I call this the 'wobble'. It's not a sudden vibration, but a gentle rocking back and forth. I am not 'willing' it, it just happens. My body wobbles forwards and backwards like a pendulum. I never resist it, I just let this uncontrollable force rock my body like a boat rocking on water (to keep with the boat metaphor). Then the wobble intensifies. I am pushed by this invisible force further forwards, and further backwards, but it's never uncomfortable and feels quite natural.

It's at this point I begin to become aware of my astral body and the astral projection phase begins. I use the 'rope' technique, so I visualize a rope coming down in front of me, and I visualize a phantom right arm reaching out to grab the rope. I do the same with the left arm. As I do this, my physical arms go cold in temperature. I then visualize my astral arms climbing the rope, hand over hand, pulling the rest of my astral body with them. It seems to work, as I start to feel my spirit tugging gently at my face, until I feel the spirit fully separate. I know some kind of separation has taken place, because as soon as my astral head peels away from my physical head, I am overwhelmed by the inability to breathe. My whole body goes cold at the same time as well.

I have gotten to this point many times now, so have been able to overcome the suffocation feeling and allow my body to breathe naturally, but now my astral body has separated from my physical body and is making its way far up this rope, while my consciousness remains inside my physical body, and I am cold and without a spirit. At this point, I 'will' my astral body back into my physical one and generally opt to end the meditation session, as no further progress is made.

Here are the questions that come with it.

Why does my consciousness stay in the physical body, while I wave goodbye to the astral one?

Is this a simulation of the mind, and are the physiological responses such as 'not being able to breathe' and 'temperature dropping' just ways of my brain making sense of my expectations?

Am I doing something wrong along the way? Should I be going about it differently?

I'm looking to the experienced astral projectors on this one, especially those who have managed to achieve it through meditation.

Thanks for any help you can give me!

peace, love and Namaste
thesilentmind

hey all,

I'm Will from Melbourne, Aus, am 25, am going through a bit of a spiritual awakening at this point my life. Friend of mine told me about DMT recently, I was initially skeptical but like all things I needed to do my own research before passing judgement. This led me to all kinds of knowledge about the true healing power of psychedelics and natural plant medicines like ayahuasca. I will be experiencing DMT very soon, but as preparation for what will likely be an eye-opening journey, I have been exploring meditation, lucid dreaming and astral projection, as well as listening to many great talks by the late Alan Watts, Graham Hancock, Terence Mckenna and Dr. Rick Strassman. I want to make sure that when the time comes I am truly ready.

I am interested in out-of-body experiences and astral projection because they seem to me like they are keys to understanding the universe and the nature of life itself. I am on a quest for knowledge and truth.

Happy to be a part of the community!

peace and love 
thesilentmind