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Wow, thank you all for the great responses.

Xanth, I haven't been having many LDs lately, but it's been my experience that when I get in a routine of doing visualizations or practising projection techniques regularly, as I am now beginning to do again, I do end up having frequent LDs.

Bluefirephoenix and paul72, I feel better knowing that others are having similar experiences, and that there is hope for me yet, hah.

EscapeVelocity, that is a lot of great advice. Thank you for reminding me of the importance of affirmations and setting intentions. I had forgotten that I used to frequently stop throughout the day to ask myself if I was dreaming. It got me in the habit of this sort of thinking. I think it really helped me before with LDs. I'm going to check out those resources that you suggested, those titles sound great.

Hello, this is my first post on this forum. I've been reading about and practising various astral projection techniques off and on (mostly off) for years now. While over the years I've had many experiences with the paralysis, the vibrations/waves, the rushing sound, even that point at which you hear a bunch of voices like you're in a crowded airport terminal or something, I have had very few actual out-of-body experiences, and only one in which I was fully conscious and up over my physical body. That experience was truly amazing though. The best part about that one, for my analytical brain, was that when I opened my eyes immediately after, the lighting in the room (early morning on a clear day with the sun light casting various shadows) and everything were exactly as I had just seen while out of the body, so it was a great confirmation.

My problem is that regardless of how disciplined and consistent I get about doing the various techniques (I had been doing the rope technique religiously for about two months when that last experience occurred), every experience that I've ever had (all of those described above) has always occurred after drifting off to sleep, or at least briefly losing consciousness. In other words, it's as though I wake up into those experiences. The vast majority of the time, that's as far as it goes. I'll be laying there feeling like my entire body is doing a big wave, or listening to what sounds like a crowded room while feeling that weightless/floating feeling - until it just sort of goes away, and I find myself laying there in bed... again. I've learned, mostly through lucid dreaming, that I need to focus my attention on the moment, or it will change or turn into something else. I'm good at this now while dreaming, but I still cannot seem to get from the preliminary phases to an actual OBE with any consistency.

From reading this forum, it sounds like many of you have moved way past the "how to get out" phase, hah. I am wondering what your experiences are like the moment you go from here to there, or "get out" as it were. Do any of you remain conscious and "awake" from laying down to being out of your body? Do any of you use the classic techniques, and if so, at what point? Any advice, or comments of any kind really, would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.