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#1
Hey, what'sup. So aside from my welcome post and my post in media about AP in music, I'm sure no one remembers me. I'm back on because I almost had an OBE without trying last night, and now I feel a little different about it; a little less disconnected from spiritualism. Like most people who try to AP and do it once but fail miserably everafter, I was searching the internet to try to connect the dots and find scientific evidence of if there is a reason why it's so hard to do. In the 2 year period between now and when I realized I couldn't do it again after my first time, I found out that there are only 2 major vises keeping people here on their earth. These are just what I've found, and even though they are absolutely true for me, they may not be true for someone who grew up APing. (skip 2 paragraphs if you don't care)

1) It's extremely difficult to AP if you're exhausted.
Few people realize this, but when you stay up past 12pm you don't dream as much as you would have if you went to bed at 10 or even 11, no matter how many hours you actually sleep. When you sleep too late, and you do it consistently because you think it won't affect you "because you're an adult", you accumulate sleep debt that is almost as serious as if you were to restrict your sleep time by hours per night. After you have this special type of sleep debt, you go to bed and black out and wake up the next day. In public, you can bring up the topic of dreaming, and it's very likely that people will say that they don't dream. The reason you black out instead of dreaming like a child is because you drop straight into deep sleep and stay there instead of having deep sleep + REM sleep. It's because you're so exhausted that your body needs to repair itself physically, rather than choosing to consolidate memory with REM sleep. You'll certainly find that people age quicker if they consistently go to sleep after midnight their whole life.
Related: the natural human sleep cycle is 4 hours asleep, 2 hours awake, 4 hours asleep. When humans invented artificial light, this was almost instantly done away with.

2) It's much easier to AP lying on your back, face up. (or your own AP position)
You might read it or hear it in videos and just brush it off as just how other people are comfortable doing it. But if I try to AP, and I'm well rested and meditating properly with nothing on my mind, and I'm lying on my side, I just lie there for 6 hours and nothing happens. Why do I feel compelled to lie on my side? Idk, but that's what my brain tells me is comfortable. I lied on my back yesterday night and cleared my mind just like I had when attempting it on my side previously, and shazam! My arms and legs were gone in a matter of minutes. I was having fleeting actual visual kaleidoscopic images along with very vivid hallucinations of nearly-human-like figures. This was followed by an extreme adrenaline rush, and consoling myself that I had to finally sleep for my 7:30am alarm. Though my arms only felt like they were an inch away from my actual arms, it was the farthest I'd been out since 2 years ago. And it was offensively easy just like how I remembered it.

Other than that, I'm almost out of school. Just 2 more semesters. Can't wait to move out
#2
Quote from: Xanth on October 18, 2014, 09:52:57
There are spiritual messages in just about every single aspect of your life... most of which you've probably never even stopped to listen for.
I have. I just wanted to make a library of music with direct references to it. For example, Periphery has 2 albums about learning to AP. In contrast, many many pop-music "artists" know nothing about it. I'm not here to make trouble, just thought it would be cool since there is no list on the whole of the internets
#3
Since I started my spiritual development, I noticed that certain music has messages about spirituality and metaphysics. I noted that each artist from which I found a spiritual message actually really rocks (in my opinion); just really resonates with me. For example, listen to Stairway to Heaven. I never really knew what it was about, but maybe I do now. I interpret the "lady" in the song to be the soul going on a journey to find out if the afterlife is real or not through astral projection (she (we) doesn't find an answer). It's a direct message to the audience. But the phenomenon doesn't stop there. It continues today and is becoming more frequent. The following list is of bands that I can confirm have music especially about metaphysics:

*Dimmu Borgir, Dream Theater, Led Zeppelin, Mastodon, *Meshuggah, *Periphery, System of a Down, *Tool
*indicates that the band focuses almost exclusively on metaphysics

Yeah, I only really have metal and rock on my hard drive. But these artists all make direct references to spirituality.
The point of this thread is that I thought it would be a cool project to compile a library list of artists which have a message to get out about the something greater. To make an obtainable list of sort of an inspirational sound track for anyone on a spiritual journey. If you have music you would like to post to the library, please comment in the following format:

(Genre1)
Artist 1, Artist 2, Artist 3,..., Artist n
(Genre2)
Artist 1,..., Artist n

If you know only one piece from an artist that applies, then add it to the (Genre) as "Artist - Song"
Please indicate artists who seem to focus exclusively on the subject with * an asterisk
Please confirm music you're unsure of by studying the lyrics
Things to consider before posting:
Is it actually about religion (christianity, islam, judaism, hinduism, buddhism, etc.)? Is it actually about doing drugs and hallucinating? Can you back it up by citing the lyrics to a degree that you're not making stuff up about what it might mean?
#4
Thank you both for clearing up some of my misconceptions. I feel a lot better now
#5
@Xanth
You blew my mind on page:  -I never could have imagined that:
15 - I had already phased with the swimmy head and ringing in my ears and everything; just that I had been asleep for it
17 - I'm half way in the astral every morning
Frank blew my mind on 20
21 - Yep, that's me
51 - Relaxation is for the weak ;P

This book tho. This book is friggin awesome. It's like an honest to life spell book.
#6
Hey what's up. I've got a serious issue with my brain.
I hate for this to be my first post on this forum, but I had to make an account to get an opinion of the community. I started looking into spiritualism and AP about 2 years ago. I am a student in mechanical engineering, and I was back then too. When I started out, I mainly did it for the pretentious right to say "look what I can do" and "you silly 3D humans". In the very beginning, I was practicing to see auras and work with energies and stuff like that. Then I wanted to learn to have lucid dreams, not as any part of spiritual advancement or anything but just because it is really darn entertaining. I got kinda good at having lucid dreams after a very short time. Then I looked into binaural beats in the gammas and deltas, and after listening to them for a few nights (a track with soothing rain and every so often a dog would bark and make me half wake up) I was able to climb out of my body and crawl under heavy gravity out my bedroom door and half way down my stairs when I tried to open my already open eyes, and opened my physical eyes and woke up. I had a few other APs, but then I started having lucid dreams that were based on trying to have out of body's. Then I gradually began to lose my ability to experience anything spiritual at all. During the time my experiences began to block, college was getting really heavy. Calculus 2, calc 3, electric physics, etc. Now the stuff I'm learning is so hard that there aren't any sites on the entire internet that explain anything about the units in the books.
I think it may have something to do with using the logical side of my brain exclusively every single day. I mean, there's absolutely no need to use the other side of my brain and there has not been for the 2 years I've been in school. But on top of that, it's so draining to go through engineering school - failure after failure after failure, and just scraping by good enough with a C as the best anyone can do without giving up things like speaking to their significant other. I don't even remember any of my dreams anymore. The main point is that when I try to AP, I get just as calm as I did in the before times until my body is totally numb. That's supposed to be when you can have obes. But I just lie there and wait without a thought on my mind. I think nothing at all - completely blank and numb. Not even "why is it not happening"; seriously, I am meditating at that time. And then 5am rolls by and I just give up and roll over and ruin the whole sleep paralysis and go to sleep for real.
And that lead me to start believing that the spirit doesn't exist. Don't take me as a skeptic. There's still a little pin head-sized particle in my brain that truly believes everything is possible. It's just become an impossibility to me to do anything with any energy. And dreams about having APs are just so depressing when you wake up and realize you've just been inside your brain the whole time.

Can anyone please give spiritual comfort to one who's lost their soul? I mean without AP, there's no way for me to confirm anymore that I'm actually alive and conscious; right now I've only got that I'm made of flesh. Suggestions on getting help from other energy entities to help me separate?