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Okay, that's pretty valid point there. I do not have intent to do OBE or anything, it just happens from time to time, but it's annoying that when it happens, I can't just lie in bed waiting for it to pass. In that point, I have to move, I have to get out no matter what. I'm not as phlegmatic there as I'm here thinking about it.

I use to have a motive or goal which I wanted to achieve there, so I tried my best to do it. But, one failure after another kinda left me dissapointed. The fact that I tried and had my conciousness there a lot more stable (I guess is the word), left the consequences of remembering all the nightmares that happened inbetween; with clear faces, visuals, etc. I would wake up in the morning still feeling that fear that is just wrong. After I couldn't shake it for whole week, I stopped trying because it was simply not worth it. It's a lot easier to wake up in the morning think about college or something and forget all that happened. Works like a charm. Thanks for fast reply tho. 

Hey, so Im having for quite some time now this problem. I wake up in the non-physical and I'm on my bed laying, having sleep paralysis to be precise, but without fear. So I'm just laying there stuck. First I would like to say is that when I wake up and realize the situation, my body feels twisted. It literally feels like my body is handicaped. My arms are completely turned around and pushed together, my head is stuck on one position, almost as if my neck is broken, my legs feel broken as well and placed onto my back or beside me. I feel retarded in complete meaning of that word. That's the first problem. Second one comes when I'm trying to leave my body. It went from completely easy to almost impossible now. At first I would be floating and would just push myself away with one leg or I would roll out on one side and fall on the floor and proceed to have lucid dream. Now? I'm struggling, I'm barely moving my hands as I'm crawling out inch by inch. I have to grab myself with one arm on bed, another on table and pull out until all of my "body" is free of my physical one. And then I would proceed to go lucid. And here comes the third problem I'm experiencing right now. After I leave my body, my head stays the same way.

So I already said it feels like my neck is broken (while in sleep paralysis). And my view only falls down on my left. I'm struggling, leaving and after I leave, my view stays the same. If I try and move my head and see right and up, I hit blackness and before knowing it, I'm back in sleep paralysis state - laying in my bed. And then I go again, crawling out, struggling, and the moment I try to move my head to see elsewhere (after leaving) blackness shows up and I'm thrown back.

How do I go back to just rolling out of bed? And why does my body feel so twisted? Before, I would wake up (in dream) the same way I fall asleep - on my back, hands beside me, legs stretched out. Now? I wake up upside down, on my stomach with my limbs being everywhere. And when I say everywhere, I mean everywhere. I had my right feet touching my ear the other night while laying on stomach. Like wtf?

Hello there , interesting experience by the way i want to bring example of this "voice" from my past experience i have a post about it i will say shortly in moment i saw shadow person this "voice" told me not to have fear and they will dissapear i listened to it/him/her and they really dissapiared i think it's our inner voice , our higher self maybe let's say so because when u are dissconnected form physical and are in non-physical it's much more easier to have connection with these things inner voice/higher self/spirit guides and so on.. Also you must figure out is this voice helping you or what causes follow after you listen to this voice...

Please read : You said you read too much dumb articles on internet, let me tell you one thing that your mind is an open gateway what i mean is that for example i tell you now " Dogs like to eat ice-cream " non-sense for you yes? but your mind automatcily gets this information and done it's in your mind everything u see read hear is going in your mind deeply you may not listen to this or don't care about what i am speaking but that fact that you already read this done it's in your mind someone told you something 3 years ago but you don't remember that fact that you " don't remember " doesn't reject existence of that information in your brain..

All i want to say that be carefull what are you going to read,watch,hear but don't transfer it to paranoia people go sometimes crazy about this plus i beleive it's my beleif that when u project all these deeply set information are floating up you have more acces to them while in non-physical so a very little sentence can re-create your reality while projecting but don't goo over serious to this

You must rebuild your set of thoughts , control information which you receive and meditate ( just please don't overreact about this many people get paranoid)

But, I stopped reading a long time ago. I didn't read anything for a year now except on this forum and specifically my posts. Sometimes I read few others, but very rarely.

I'm not worried, I'm just not quite sure what to make of it.

I don't really have any emotions with it, at least not some heavily noticeable onces. It just appeares out of nowhere. I can't pinpoint where is it coming from or who is it coming from. Feels almost like an echo, but I can understand it clearly and there are no repetitions. I guess the closest description would be like voice on the speakers. It's always above me and it always interferes.

I called it 3rd perspective voice because it feels like third person or mediator. Except there is only a voice, no person.

When I say interferes, it is as I already described it. And it is connect when I'm trying to call spirit guide. It never speaks to me directly. More as if it speaks to who I'm calling, but I can hear it. For example: When I was being pulled up from sleep paralysis state by whoever, in midst I asked about spirit guide. They waited for the voice to speak first. It said he is not available and that he cannot come. I heard the voice say those things to them and they repeated it's words to me anyway. The same thing happens over and over again when I try to reach out to spirit guide. I know I got mad at spirit guide first, because he didn't wanna come. I felt like I was doing him a favor (harshly said) coming to non-physical because thats where he is supposed to be. Feels like I come to his "world", all he has to do is show up and yet he manages to fail everytime. And there I was, really liking the idea of having someone who spirit guide represents. I also didn't understand why he doesn't just ignore the voice. Why it has so many influence on things that happen there. I still don't.

Anyway, I'm not really concerned with spirit guide anymore, I kinda stopped asking for it or wanting it. When I wanted it, I also wanted to have sleep paralysis and to extend it to an amazing experiences. I wanted to "practise" but all for nothing. When I wanted it, nothing happened. I barely even dreamed. The moment I truly stopped caring, bam, I end up having multiple experiences, all these different talks I can't put my finger on. What am I to make of "calling an angel that says she's a Nightmare" or 2 days ago split second before I woke up, I got whispered in my ear "You walk by Death everyday". Like please, I don't understand. Maybe I read too much dumb articles on internet, but I gave up reading about this months ago. I didn't read a single thing from February, when I joined the forum. Only here and only mine topics. Sometimes others, but very very rarely.

It's not even the same. Every sleep paralysis I feel different presence. Sometimes negative, mostly positive that later becomes recognizable. When I manage to free from the SP state and proceed to have an experience I can see them and talk to them. Even leaving when in SP isn't the same. I used to roll out of bed, just on the side and directly through my table onto the floor. Today I got out by kicking myself away from the wall, with my left leg. It felt like I had a string connected to the wall and I was in universe with no gravity. After a minute of back and forth I managed to push myself far enough to break away. Did I mention I had the presence stuck onto my back? It was piggyriding me while holding right arm around my neck. Very uncomfortable.

Either way, that's all I have about the voice. Maybe I get to call it next time and see what happens.

You know there's another way to look at this as well. Perhaps you landed in a place that you "needed" to be in. Maybe there is something there that would help your further development. I always read how everyone wants to "change" things there. Why not explore where you are and find the purpose why you are there in the first place?

Believe me, when you begin to explore" you will have no problem at all finding all kinds of interesting adventures awaiting you there. Let your "curiosity" be your driving force.

Well, it's kinda frustrating to be in the dark constantly. I just wish to "switch the light on". But yeah, I understand what you mean by exploring.

I finally was able to astral project last night, and had a remarkable 3 in a row,
But each were absolutely awful! Everything I tried to do wouldnt work out, the entire expirience was frustrating, disappointing, and made me lose a lot of enjoyment involving astral travel.

I tried to go to space, and kept falling, I tried to meet any kind of spirit guides, and it failed terribly. I got so angry trying to fly. I know that they respond to the mind, and i was expecting i could do it, because i was doing it before! i have no idea why im falling again ):

So i gave up on that because i started waking up, then started another projection, and decided id try finding any guidance but found myself wondering around the park outside my house without any luck until i started  to wake up again, so i induced a 3rd projection and (stupidly) tried flying again, and same results >_< its like i have zero control, and the astral realm is completely boring and has nothing to do or offer. I feel completely abandoned and like the astral realm is fighting against me. I just feel powerless and like it's all so pointless.. I have no control at all... Every little thing is so mich energy & so hard to do & ends up not working out...
Its all so hard!!  Ugh im so frustrated T_T and at the time i was calm & confidient & everything & it still didnt work!!
Im having such a hard time & such poor experiences
Any advice?

I feel you. I also didn't have control and it was frustrating. It still is, as I can do ANYTHING in my experience except changing the theme. It's always night in my experiences. Always. 10/10 experiences are happening during night time and I can't change that. I can fly, I can create what I want, but I can't switch moon with sun and I can't light up the sky and have it all blue and white instead of black. :/

What I found useful about getting control of my experience is the intent that Xanth has explained in his article. If you want something to happen you HAVE TO DO IT. Wishing for it to happen, believing for it to happen, dreaming for it to happen, screaming for it to happen, ordering it to happen. NOTHING will make it happen. Not one of those things. You just have to DO it. I don't know how exactly, but that's how that crazy intent thing works and you gotta learn it for yourself.

Hello

I have few questions regarding my last experience. I'm kinda confused and can't really understand it. Before I put my experience; I always wanted to meet my spirit guide in there and talk to him/them. But so far I was always unsuccessful. I also heard of Angels and stuff, but I do not believe in them as for me, they are part of religion and I'm not religious. I'm not ignorant enough to call something I do not believe in. Even if they were to be real, I can't ask for help as I rejected their existance - it doesn't seem fair. It would be all fine, if I didn't have experience where She, carried my astral body (or so it felt). I felt she wasn't my spirit guide but something else. Unfortunately, back then, I was also ignorant of Her existance, as I was only spirit guide this, spirit guide that. Didn't ask who she is, or her name. Nothing. That's when I promised to myself, that next experience will be about her. I will call for her, whatever She is and talk to her, ignoring the spirit guide. Now, what happened.

I entered SP and after that found myself in front of my house. Same old, I remembered spirit guides and all the ignoring I got so I called out to Her. At first She didn't come at all. Not until I dropped on my knees and places my hands ready to pray. I figured, if she truly was an Angel, that was the way to get her to come. Only then the sky opened up (the hole popped up in my sky) and I could see a lot of them, flying around with wings. She decended down ONLY after this voice allowed her to do so and I was so happy to see She actually came that I had thrown myself into her arms. I asked for her name, but I can only recall the letters, not the order of them. And on the question is She my Angel, I got reply, no, I'm not an Angel, I'm a Nightmare. I wasn't scared at all and I didn't find it weird at that time. It almost felt like my guardian or whatever, is nightmare type. It also made sense for me at that point, because my normal dreams are only horror ones and every single time, it's night in my dream. Even now, I was able to fly, to create everything etc. but was unable to switch moon with sun, to remove that dark cloth of night with blue one of day. Anyway. I have 2 question regarding this.

First one; How do I interpret that She is Nightmare. Like being. Like there are Spirit guides, there are Angels and She is Nightmare?

Second one; What is that voice that I keep hearing. I can always hear that damn voice, saying things, but I don't know where is it coming from. When I called my spirit guide, it was that 3rd perspective voice that said he is not allowed to come. It is that same voice that allowed Her to come and was the one that I felt wasn't pleased with my response. When She told me what she is (or supposed to be ) I was really happy, wasn't scared. I felt this uncomfortability, like that wasn't the response I was supposed to have. And soon enough, that 3rd perspective voice stopped my experience from continuing. It literally feels like it threw me out of my own dream. In every single experience that same voice was dominating. What do I make of that?

That's all  

It's a different awareness level.
While these are playing out try your best to match them both by using intent.

What do you mean by different awareness level? How many are they? How far can one go?

Hello,

I'll just get straight to the point. I started having heavy dose of LD's in last 10 days, but some feel very different. Let me explain. These 2 scenarios can happen.
1) I fall asleep, "wake up" in non-physical - always sleep paralysis, I'm lying on my bed, roll out of it and I proceed to have LD.

or

2) I fall asleep, I start dreaming I'm awake (while in non-physical I dream I'm awake) then in dream I proceed to go to bed, fall asleep and then I think I "woke up" in non-physical (actually been whole time there), I'm lying on my bed - have SP, roll out of it and I have LD.

Point is, when I wake up, depending on how I got to have LD separates the feeling I have. LD's that I have through the first step feel a lot more vivid and a lot more stable than the second ones. Why? What's the big idea? Why these second ones feel so different? Like, so distant. Any thoughts?

You can't really be surprised right? It was only a matter of time when something like this would happen. More than half of "refugees" people have nothing to do with Syria and are, at best, migrants.

Let's see if I can tackle this question with an example for you to try.

Say you have a scale of 1 to 10.
1 = your awareness is 100% focused in this physical reality (like right now)
and
10 = your awareness is 100% focused in a non-physical reality (like when you project)

In order to project, your goal is to shift your awareness from a 1 and bring it as close to a 10 as you can.  I'd say that the projection reflex would trigger once you hit about a 7 or 8.
So, what can you do in order to cause that reflex trigger?  Well, you need to push your awareness along that scale, bringing it further and further away from the physical.

Try the Mental Rundown Exercise you might have read about here on the forum (you can read about it in my book as well).  What I want you to do with it is create a short mental rundown which you can repeat.  Each time you repeat it, allow your awareness to shift more and more AWAY from this physical reality.  Each time you progress through your mental rundown, you should be mentally moving further and further, deeper and deeper away from your 5 physical senses... until you hit a 7 or 8 and then ALLOW the projection to happen.

That's phasing.  Well, in a nutshell, that's ALL projection labels... most people are just too hung up on labels to realize it.

I understand the first part, but I don't understand the mental rundown exercise. Will try listening to these beats tonight and see the charm myself,.. or not. We'll see.

Okay, and how does this tape help you achieve that phasing?

This can seem sorta out of blue, but what's the difference between phasing and projection? What does phasing represent? What is phasing?

I wanted to do the same thing. I had LD's, but tried so hard to go AP. Not only that I had, simply said, wasted my LD's and my time in non-physical, I also stopped having LD's for few months.

You are projecting this very moment, here in physical reality. Everytime you dream, you are projecting in non-physical. Don't try and change your experiences. Live them, try and experience them fully, regardless of what you think. Observe and feel each and one of them, because they are happening. You have to throw away your expectations of what do LD's look like and how does AP look like. The difference is not what you imagine it like. I know, because I also thought the same thing and tried the same thing literally 5 months ago.

I guess, as you go, you grow, same way you grow here in physical, you grow there in non-physical. When you made some bad decisions and got burned here in physical, you grew wiser (at least I hope you did ). Same thing with non-physical. Everytime I tried to do something that includes methods, it would end up in failure. Just go along with the experiences and they will lead you. I actually stopped having LD's and stopped dreaming for a while after all the "attempts" to reach this so-called Astral projection. (Because I created this belief, this expectation of what it should look like). After a month or so, I stopped thinking about it, or wishing for it. Kinda stopped trying. At that moment when I did so, I started having these amazing and scary experiences. My guess would be, that at the moment I stopped caring I actually disposed of all of the expectations and beliefs. Now, I understand what it means. You will too. Just go along. Don't force anything. Like Xanth said, you are already having astral projections, you are just not seeing it.

I hope I'm not committing a newbie faux pas responding to a thread that hasn't been posted in for several months, but as a Christian, this is a question I've been dealing with.  Right now, it is my belief that AP isn't necessarily I say right now because my stance is that it is good to be open to standing corrected if I come to realize my understanding of scripture is erroneous.

Here's the thing:  while I do believe the Bible to be accurate and without error, we who read it are NOT without error.  Verses can be taken out of context, to, either deliberately or inadvertaintly, seem to say something that was not intended when it was written.  We also need to consider that language changes.  A lot of people have a tendency to treat the Bible like it was written yesterday.  It wasn't.  It didn't just fall off a turnip truck.  We need to interpret scripture based on what the words meant in the time period in which those scriptures were written.

As for astral projection, people often say it is bad and point to scripture that speaks against witchcraft.  Now, I'm no theological expert, but I've yet to be convinced that those verses have to do with AP.  Again I am not afraid to stand corrected but at this point I haven't been convinced that the Bible condemns AP. 

Not only that, but as has been pointed out in this thread there are scriptures that describe things that may be astral projection.  Like Paul's third heaven experience, indicating he didn't know if he was in his body or out, which implies it is possible to have been out of body.  Or like Revelation.  Now I can say one thing without doubt:  God is not going to use demonic means to communicate with people.

I think astral projection should complement religion, not be against it. And it should go both ways. For you, religion should complement astral projection, not be against it.

The RTZ is a label given to the real time zone, its a copy of your physical location and can be perfectly reproduced or loaded with things that don't exist.
Purple is a colour you changed, read about the significance of purple, it may help you.
I'm not familiar with your exit technique. I don't get vibes or SP.
Thinking you have to separate from a physical body with another form is how it seems at the start. It worked for me this way long ago. Today it is phasing only.
Your answers are not location based, they are from within your mind and the environments where the mind is challenged are mostly formless. It's hard to find words to explain it clearly. You feel things emotionally rather than see or touch. Colours can play a part in these areas of consciousness.
You may not be ready just yet as they are more difficult to experience for many projectors even with lots of experience.

Oh, you mean something like this?

http://psychicjoanne.hubpages.com/hub/coloursindreams

I always thought that was some voodoo fake stuff from those tarot shows you laugh at 2am in the morning because you have nothing else to do. I never used those "analyze your dream content" where you write stuff from your dream and then see what it "means. Ermm.. should I start doing that?

This is for PURPLE;

Purple resonates with power and inspiration. The colour purple is most deeply associated with dreams and dreaming. Listen carefully and take special notice of dreams containing purple, indigo and violet.
Seeing purple in our dreams stimulate our need to feel at one with the Universe, and to have harmonious relationships.
Purple has soothing, calming and comforting effects and seeing purple in a dream may indicate psychic awareness and intuition.
When seeing purple in a dream you may be seeing the future as these dreams are often prophetic. Purple stimulates our spiritual perspective and intuition.
Purple is the colour of devotion, Divine healing and healing abilities, love, kindness, compassion and care. Purple is also the colour or royalty, justice, wealth, dignity and integrity.
Dreaming of purple may be imply that your spiritual side needs to be explored and expanded. Trust your intuition, always.
Take special note of dreams with a prevalence of the colour purple.

Purple appearing in your dreams inspires:
inspiration and vision, faith and trust in the future, sensitivity to the spiritual realms and psychic abilities.

Seeing purple in your dreams releases:
confusion (brings clarity), lack of discipline, resentment and contempt, arrogance, pride and forgetfulness.

That's pretty good I guess, because the planet we entered was like mixed colours of purple. And as we got close to it, there was some white cloudy thing floating around its atmosphere. (We were going really fast so I got scared a bit and pressed my head into her chest to blurry my vision). When I was picking myself sunglasses I chose purple ones with white liners.

WHITE

White is often regarded as the colour of truth and purity, innocence and completeness. The colour white is symbolic of perfection, peace, dignity, awareness and new beginnings.
Dreaming of white may be implying that you are experiencing a reawakening and/or a fresh outlook on life.
Seeing white in your dreams may also be a suggestion that something is being covered-up or hidden; as in 'white-washed'.
White appearing in your dreams can also be indicative of a 'clean slate' or 'blank canvas' on which to begin or start anew.
Seeing white in your dreams may be a subconscious message to find the truth to a matter or situation, or to seek your own personal truths.
Seeing white within a dream relates to the imagination, and its effects on us stimulates creativity, Divine realization and humility.
When appearing in dreams leads us towards higher spiritual attunement and Divine love. Dreaming of white can be a great healing colour for a person with a negative self-image as white has the power of transformation.

Seeing white in our dreams inspires:
intuition, creativity, Divine guidance, meditation, reflection, inner-wisdom, grace and dignity and spiritual unity.

White appearing in dreams releases:
restrictions, intolerance, martyrdom, a critical and/or negative view.

If I can really rely on these descriptions than it's amazing. It means I'm getting closer, because after all it was my first time I actually got to go up without fail. (I would usually start floating up and fall down - all of my previous attempts were failures, I never knew what to make out of that because I never felt anything or sensed anything beside my consciousness, not even my "astral body" as in this case). And on top of that, I felt their presence and heard their voices as well as felt wind and smell at the same time.

I can't believe from whole experience and all of the stuff the most important part are purple sunglasses. Like, I did forget almost everything else that was happening, but purple sunglasses for win (and purple planet)!

There's lots to think on with this experience. You appear to have been tested on various issues.
The place (a location) to go to thing is helpful if you're projecting into the RTZ with vision etc. It can be useful without vision as you can feel your way around knowing where you are.
Your initial thoughts were for you to obtain info on anxiety. A goal dont you think?
This leaving your body idea may be too physical world based as its more a mental area of consciousness you need to reach. Vision isn't required for this but may help a beginner adapt to the physics of the many environments.
You had a guide as you wanted too. They come in all shapes and forms so don't expect anything in particular, you are getting the help but you have to work it out for yourself. They guide, you do the rest.
Think back on the feelings you had. Seeing monsters and not being scared is brilliant work. They have some hidden meaning and in this experience the fears they would normally give had gone. This shows you are past the fear stage, you've won the fear battle and that's good news.
Looking is everything in the physical, its second in the NP. How things feel is far more important.You can easily tell if something is a lie by how it feels, looking at it you'd not know.
I'm hoping some of the things you can't remember will click sometime in the future. Then you'll remember more when your mind is ready to understand. That can be what she meant when she said you would soon.
The glasses could also be your choice, things given are more useful than you know. Perhaps purple has significance by its colour, worth checking it out, you may find something helpful  

I'm amazed by how far you can actually see. My interpretations are basic and it kinda takes me few months to really understand them. For them to really click, to sink in why. It took me 10 months to realize why I always keep doing the same thing in my LD's.

I don't know what RTZ stands for and what do you mean I should check if purple has any significance?

And as for "This leaving your body idea may be too physical world based as its more a mental area of consciousness you need to reach. Vision isn't required for this but may help a beginner adapt to the physics of the many environments."

That's due to reason I'm lying in bed, trying to fall asleep and I do fall asleep, but I'm not aware of it. I'm already there in non-physical, but I don't recognize this until I try moving and actually feel I'm completely paralyzed. Everything starts from there. All of my experiences that have happened in last few weeks started from that moment. That's why. 2 days ago, I started 3 of my LD's by rolling out of my bed and literally breaking the restrictions of my physical body that I felt few seconds before I rolled out.

Good experience. You may find that this one is how you are thinking generally. Doubt is strong in this experience, perhaps you have some about breaking free.
You appear to be concentrating on one thing and not actually seeing what's around you. This could be a belief of what you expect to occur or something similar.
Next time, drop everything and look around interacting with what's present. Don't think your guide is a guy, its likely there's more than one but you've not become aware enough to notice this.
Think about the experience and try to Interptret how it can help. The chains are yours and you need to break free of them in some way.

Hey, sorry for not responding, was moving to another city, had no internet!

Well, I don't know anymore. Some say, in experiences you need to have some goal in order for experience to happen and another say to drop completely the expectations of it. Now, when I first got pulled into all of this, I decided what I wanted to do with it and that was to get to know myself more and get answers to some questions that will hopefully allow me to beat the anxiety I keep facing each day. That's why I'm so eager to get to that spirit guide that should represent something (or someone) that may help me out. I know that's also a reason why everytime I get to that point of transition, where I'm supposed to separate from physical body, my brain automatically switches to spirit guide this, spirit guide that. Nothing else matters, I just want a quick way to get to him. As I've already said, can't have it.

You said I should look around. That's really hard, because my vision is still not at that level where I can actually see in those kind of experiences. In that specific experience, while she was carrying me up, into the sky and then beyond I would say, I was in complete darkness. I asked when will I be able to see, respond was soon. That she will tell me when to open my eyes. Problem started in that one split moment, because I started to gain vision, but I still felt my physical eyes. I know it's my inexperience showing here, but I tried to keep my eyes closed so I don't wake up (and to wait a safe moment to open them up - her words), but at the same time, my astral eyes were opening and controling both was incredibly hard. That's how I felt it. It was almost as if I was looking throught my eye shutters. The only thing I saw were planets. We were moving from one planet to another. And when we finally "reached" to somewhere and my vision stabilized, I can remember barely 20% of what I saw. It's like my awareness faded and I can still recall the fragments. And in those fragments I can understand what they represent, but I don't see the answer. There is practically no answer, only indicators what it presents.

For example, in one of those fragments I remember picking myself up nice sunglasses with her next to me, in front of some old lady. I picked purple ones, but then my eyes would be seen so I decided to go for black glass. Before I could say I wanted the black, I was thrown back. I lost all the contact, all of the vision, everything that was happening in that experience with her and was on my bed once again feeling my physical body very strongly. Again, there was presence on my left side and it lifted me up. It was very different, felt negative. I let it carry me anyway. Soon enough I was inside this pitch black room. The voice said, let's see if you're compatible. At that point, lighting hit behind me and I've got to see what's inside the room for brief second. On my left was this thing, it had multiple legs and arms, looked like a lizard and everywhere around the 2 of us were monsters. Some nasty black looking ones and there were like hundreds of them. At that moment 3 thoughts occured to me. First was recognition that "to see if we're compatible" was focused on me and that lizard thing as if we could fight side-by-side (I felt no hostility coming from him). Second thing, I felt like this was similar to a game, where I could choose, would I pick good guys (to go with her) or if I would choose the bad guys (the thing that was occuring right now), I don't know why, but it felt like that black-white, good-evil thingy. And third thing was the last one I remember. I felt really hyped up. I had no fear and I was actually very pleased to see I can "kick some butt" there because of all the nightmares I had.

And I can barely understand what it represents. Glasses probably indicate my vision. Either it is that I'm blind as bat and can't see what's obvious (like an answer) or that I'm looking at the wrong things. Could also indicate that when I decided to go with black glass and hide my eyes that I'm in denial and don't want to face what's ahead. Yeah, I get that much. I can also understand this black-and-white thing I felt there, but like I said. Even thought I understand the meaning there is still no answer to why? or how do I change it/face it whatever.

Hi!

So I had experience literally 45min ago (it's 2am here) and I wish to share it. I have some questions. So, I went to bed pretty early. Around 9.30pm. This week I already went to bed this early and actually for first time in forever I slept whole 10-12 hours without waking up! The whole night! Woohoo for me, felt awesome  . Figured I might have it today as well. Well, sure enough I'm trying to fall asleep. Didn't even notice the transition and I found myself in non-physical. How I noticed the difference? Well, the symptoms of my favorite sleep paralysis started to arise. I felt paralysis throughout my whole body and heavy presence on left side of my neck and shoulders. Fear started to kick in again, but I remembered I didn't have sleep paralysis in quite a while, so I decides to go for that method of asking the monster to help me get up. The moment I decided that, the hostility disappeared. Presence wasn't negative anymore. It was actually, warming. And here we go again. (This happened few times before, this time it was "more advance"). My consciousness would start separating from my physical body and I would start going up. Above my bed and far in the sky. I would always feel presence pulling me up. I wanted to go up because I thought I would get pulled up and I would find myself standing somewhere next to my spirit guide. But each time in past, I would go up and fall down. Like I would get dropped down. Well, today, for first time, it actually felt, like my astral body is being moved by something. (It usually felt just like my consciousness floating). This time I felt my "astral body". And it was terrible because, imagine having your physical body out of shape for years. Imagine not moving at all and having muscle fatigue, that's how my astral body felt. I felt like a child. They took my, so to speak, astral body, moved it a bit so it's easier to carry and started lifting me up. This time, I felt their presence stronger. Like my senses got sharper so I could actually "see", "hear" and "feel" more. Few moments later I heard them talking. I could hear them speaking to me. It was she and he. I couldn't see him or her, but she was holding me. She told me to smell her hair so I did. The smell was so sweet. And from that I concluded she has red hair. My senses were stronger, I know, because I don't remember before feeling wind on myself if I'm not thinking about it AND at the same time feeling smell. It's so hard to do that, even in LD's. And he was just there, standing behind, being present. But they weren't my spirit guides. I don't know why I didn't think of them as my spirit guides, I just.. didn't. I asked eagerly where is my spirit guide. Why isn't he showing? She told me, he can't. She said: "He is not available. He is not allowed." I don't remember what happened then, but I asked few more questions for him. I felt my best friend's presence in him. I asked if we could go get my buddy out, because that poor thing can't even dream, let alone have experiences. He said yes, but after they stabilize me. Well, experience moved on and there were bunch of things happening afterwards, but what I want to focus on is that problem with spirit guide.

I had bunch of LD's and each time I called out my spirit guide I got nothing. No response. On start, when my LD's were just starting, I realized I was dreaming and took off. I was in this field of grass and really nice blue sky. That was my first time calling out to him. First first first. Sure enough, after flying around I found some tree I wanted to hang onto to keep myself within LD. That's when I called my spirit guide and he popped out. He is, obviously a male. Has brown hair. He was freakin' glowing so I couldn't see much. I know he was shirtless and ripped. But that's as much as my eyes saw from all the light. It's like there was sun behind him and I had incredible hard time looking at him. As excited as I was, I started to ask him questions. He was telling me his name. It was long, yet short. Well, didn't take long. Soon after, these chains started to rise from ground and wrap around him. That's when I noticed scratches on his body. Like cuts all over and bruises. It was really overwhelming for me. Like an earthquake. I heard 3rd voice speaking. The time is not right. She is not ready. At that point he got pulled and as I said, the sensation was so strong it set me off balance within nanoseconds and I got thrown out of my own LD.

I mean, what's the big idea? I thought, and still am, that spirit guides have free ticket to us whenever we are in non-physical, how come I get these kind of experiences? Why do I dream that he can't reach me? When I woke up now, I felt almost mad because she was there and my spirit guide wasn't. It's frustrating and then it hit me. Who the hell is she? Like seriously, all this time I'm being focused on him, the spirit guide that I completely forgot about her. And she was the presence I felt all this time, pulling me out of my physical body. Anything similar ever happened to anyone else? I don't feel sleepy at all now, and I will probably stay awake till 6-7am. Well, I have to get up at 11am, so tomorrow night will probably repeat this one.

One more thing. This time, when I woke up at 1.30am, after the experience, I wasn't covered in cold sweat. One more woohoo for me!

I guess we all agree on that one thing. Whatever it is, noone will do it for you. You and only you can change things. But, change doesn't have to be good/positive thing. It can always be worse.

I would like to ask you Venus_Goddess_of_Love, if you have met your spirit guides, have you met the higher self as well?

Hey @IsayWhaat, thanks for sharing. We all have fear of the unknown. It is human nature. We're just wired that way - for self-protection since we were toddlers. So don't beat yourself up.

A few comments on your story...
- our spirit guides are more evolved than us earthlings and have a higher purpose for us. It may seem sometimes that we've been abandoned (I certainly feel like that), but remember that we are here for a reason. We decided to come to earth to learn new things, overcome our fears, be more compassionate, realise our one-ness and evolve like everything else in the universe. So we can't expect our spirit helpers to pop round whenever we want. We need to be independent as much as possible. If they don't appear to you when you ask, don't think they're not listening. They want you to do your own research, and be proud that you did it 'all by yourself' even if you didn't.
- they're not humans and don't have human egos, so if you tell them to go screw themselves, they're not going to be offended or stay away from you. They understand why you're feeling that way and won't lash out. Save your energy.
- do some soul searching on why you feel this fear. Remember that you also have a higher self, which is a part of you that is more connected to higher astral planes, that you can always call on in such circumstances. Best way to connect is through meditation. Put aside some 'me time' and meditate with a candle and soothing music before you go to sleep. INTENTION IS KEY. When you meditate, 'intend' to sleep in peace, visualise meeting your guide, visualise yourself being content. EVERY ACTION STARTS WITH A THOUGHT. Control your thoughts and you will control your actions.
- you have full ownership and control of your energies, your thoughts and your body. Choose to keep it that way. Do not allow fear to take over. The beings that you feel or see around you may be fragments of your imagination, or real. I don't know. But they are only able to get to you because you're 'unconsciously' allowing fear to take over. Again meditation would help you control fear. Shower yourself with protective light, magnificent bright white healing light that fills every cell in your body. Believe that you are protected from any low vibration energies. Know, intend, decide.... Take control. If you haven't done this before, go join a meditation class. It's fun, and you will meet likeminds.
- try to have a positive state of mind, always (easier said than done, but possible). Consciously stop and say thanks to the universe, whenever things work out for you, however small. Energy acts like magnet. Positive attracts more positive. Whatever state of mind you are, the universe gives you more of it.
- finally, food for thought "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear"

Hope this helps.
Venus  

I love how positive you sound, unfortunately I don't agree on one point. I don't know if we have full control over our energy or our thoughts, but I do know we don't have control over our body, but that's not the point here, right? Because it all comes down to a thought. We can just pretend and act like we have control and it is enough for us? (hopefully this didn't sound like douchebagery, just think about it). You say everything starts with a thought? It's all we humans need. We need to THINK something is, even if it isn't. We need to BELIEVE something is, even if it's not. In other words, ignorance is our best friend. Problem starts when you can't be ignorant. When you can't think that something is, when you know it isn't. You can try and pretend all you want something is nice and shiny, sooner or later reality will slap you, and oh it slaps hard. It slaps you so hard you spin 360 around yourself. Why? Because thinking isn't enough. Because believing isn't enough. Because you are not enough. And no, I don't mean that as someone is dissatisfied with themselves. No. I think it of a way, you can't have control over anything, not even your own body, not even your damn mind, because the control lays in your surroundings. Now, that state of mind is not helping of course, but it is how it is. It's what I learned from my own experience over the years. Something really bad happened, fine, I can handle it. - (or so I thought). So I rebuild my life on spot. A week after another bad thing happens, crashing the very meaning of me. Fine, I can take that as well. So, once again I rebuild my life. But when it happened for the 3rd time, I hit me so hard for being ignorant fool I was, being naive to think something can just be solved, not even solved, something can be changed just from the way you stand. Just from the way you think or even face the problem (negative or positive) you can make a difference, truth is, you can't. You can't overcome problems by just using a positive approach or so called positive state of mind. Truth to be spoken, it doesn't even matter how you approach it, problem is the same and out of your control, the only thing different is you.

Now for that, I did some research on inner self. I came to some conclusions. Before I say what I conclude, I'll shortly describe what I did and how I decided what to "believe" or should I say, acknowledge as truth. I'm not religious but I do use it as a metaphor. I also use all religions and believes. I think everyone looking at the same picture gets different answers (perspectives) so in the end, it sounds as different things even they came from looking at the same thing. In addition to that I used famous personalities and their theories, specifically Sigmund Freud. In the end I used my own, what people refer to as intuition. It can be bad or good intuition, but it has never been wrong. I started with Om sign. There are 5 parts of the Om sign and I used 3 of them (so far). Conscious, unconscious and subconscious mind. Now, I won't go in very detail, but reading about Sigmund Freud theories on those subjects + personality ones, I never understood how come when I think of inner self, when I try to "feel" inner self I feel a different being. How come I don't think of it as me? Why is it not me? Why do I keep having this bad feeling in my chest I can't get rid of?

This is what it said about concious mind:
"The conscious mind includes such things as the sensations, perceptions, memories, feeling and fantasies inside of our current awareness. Closely allied with the conscious mind is the preconscious, which includes the things that we are not thinking of at the moment but which we can easily draw into conscious awareness."

And this is about unconscious:
"The unconscious contains all sorts of significant and disturbing material which we need to keep out of awareness because they are too threatening to acknowledge fully. So, the unconscious is not like a dust bin containing unimportant or irrelevant thoughts. Rather, it is precisely because they are so powerful that they are kept buried. Nevertheless, they exert a significant influence."

By using the logic above, the conscious mind is us. Like, literally me, this, here, right now. That's conscious mind. And the unconscious mind is my inner self. If I connect the bad feelings I have with it, the fears, the phobia, the anxiety, it makes perfect sense that's that. After all, that's what unconcious mind contains. Could I just barely managed to allow the leak of that unconscious mind and now I have this ugly gut sensation I just can't get rid of? Maybe, maybe not. So, I went little bit further and started reading from teist perspective of inner self. As I expected, it only had positive things to say about the inner self. It's your higher being, but reading between lines, in each article there was sentence or meaning like this:

"Remember to be aware of any discomfort you feel when you are working with your inner self. We cannot, and do not, take any responsibility for what you will actually experience because people are all so different. So monitor yourself. Stop if you feel any stress and, if necessary, seek professional help."

Why did I highlight this one? Because, everyone keeps associating your inner self with good, positive things. Something like what you would define as an angel. But it's not like that is it? Even if it's a "higher being" it doesn't mean it will be good. After all, I've just read all of my negative sh*t I buried lays there in real me. So, how come everyone is connecting inner self with good things and I feel totally different? I also remembered, of course, the opposite of good is bad, and opposite of "angel" is "demon", so the famous saying "face your demons" popped into my mind. Could it be that after you "face your demons" you meet your "inner self" or should I say, you become your inner self? Maybe that's why it feels like a stranger to me. But do we really wanna access that unconcious part of the mind? What I also read is that things that are in the unconscious mind are ONLY available to the conscious mind in disguised form. That the influence they have over conscious actions can be discovered by dream content. Now when I think about my dreams and their content, I'm not really all that positive. At the end of one article it asked this question: "Do you wanna be nice or do you wanna be whole? You decide." It just confirmed inner self is not all that shiny and nice as some describe it. Which again I can connect to that THINKING thing. People only need to THINK something is, BELIEVE something is (even if its not). By being ignorant they are helping themselves, and by reading about all those positive things that people forcefully connect with inner self, totally helps them. So, what about us that had stuff happening, bad stuff that are preventing us from being that ignorant? What do we do? How do we face our inner self?

I totally went off-topic!! Sorry ._. and thanks for the positive thoughts! It might not seem like it, but I appreciate them.

You will meet them! I asked so many times. You cannot imagine.... The few times I had contact in the past, either I couldn't see them (only feel them), or they take a friendly shape like a baby. Once I went to sleep, then woke up in the other world, to find myself being taught telekinesis by someone sitting in the dark. Couldn't see who it was. Another time I woke up in mid flight towards a light in a tunnel. I felt a presence, turned to my right and there was a baby! I thought that's not really a baby guiding me in a wormhole of some sort! Lol. Well this time, I saw half a face and held his hand. So that's progress!

I also asked so many times, almost ashamed how desperately it was, but I got nothing each time. When we are lucidly aware within non-physical isn't that ideal place and time for them to pop up?

You see, I messed up really hard. I had a simple fear and I allowed it to become phobia. Over the years it literally controlled (actually, still is) my life and it fuels my anxiety. Last couple of months it got worse. I carry this heavy dark sensation in my chest and cannot snap out of it. And that transfers to my non-physical experiences. Everytime I go to bed before midnight or somewhere before 3am, experiences get so bad I wake up in cold sweat. I don't remember them, but when I wake up the very thing I'm afraid of is happening. It throws my senses into dissarray everytime and there is no way out of. The only method that works is me staying up whole night, and sleeping during day. When sun starts rising around 4-5am is perfect time to go to bed. Now what it has to do with spirit guides? After I fall asleep again, I have negative experiences. I'm completely aware I'm dreaming and there is no possible thing that can harm me, but it is so damn strong. And I call out for help, but each time nothing.

Here's how it looked today. After I woke up at 3am it took me an hour and half to calm down and go back to sleep. It started really badly, am I dreaming, is it really happening, I don't know, but I was leaving my body. More like being ripped out of my body, half awake, half asleep, vibrations, paralysis all kicked at the same time. I let it happen, I tried to go with the process, but it felt so damn wrong. My sight was blurry. I couldn't see. I tried so hard to look without waking up and I saw fragments of places, like I was travelling somewhere. I have no idea what happened afterwards, but I got to that somewhere. I wasn't fully aware, but I was aware enough that I know I'm in a dream. And so it started. Shadows, things just started to come around me. It's night. I was really afraid and I usually seek exit by waking up, but I decided to face them this time. And so I fought. Literally fought. Swinging with my hands, legs, flying, throwing shiet to "kill them", but nothing worked. They kept coming, fear was all over me. At one point I was paralyzed by a fear. I screamed within me to move to fight. (It really felt like I was fighting for my life, gets really vivid). Eventually, I called out for my spirit guides. A simple help. Something, gosh anything would do. But once again I was all alone and when those things finally got me and killed me, I didn't wake up, I proceeded to have another dream. Different kind of situation, still same feelings tho. Why is fear controlling my life, I don't know. If you ask me what I'm afraid of, I won't be able to answer to you. I just am. I even stop for a moment in dream, trying to calm down, to smile, to change what is happening, I understand I cannot be harmed and yet no success.

When I first joined up I wanted to meet those spirit guides, well my spirit guides and inner self. I was so excited. So happy. Now as time passes, I'm losing will to meet them. I was alone, guess I still am. (not asking for sympathy). Maybe I'm being too childish, but if I meet them long after everything, I will honestly tell them to go screw themselves.

I wanted to meet my spirit guide(s) but was unable so far. I'm really happy that someone else succeded! 

Would you be more likely to do business with a company if they could prove that they weren't doing what they do JUST for money... but doing what they do to make life better on this planet?

Like, if Walmart, all of a sudden, started paying decent wages and stopped worrying about their bottom line... ?

Just curious what everyone's thoughts on something like that would be?

Everyone is trying to make a better life on this planet, bottom line is, they are trying to make a better life for themselves.

If a business can afford such noble goal, its owner is either naive fool (and doing business with such is your own downfall) or he is extremely financially secured and doesn't care for profit.

From a business perspective one doesn't care for anything, but profit, so doing business with such companies/enterprises/organizations is highly risky and managers definitely want to avoid them.
From perspective of a human being, it is only natural to wish for that.

I never said "upgrade". I said "right the ship", which means fix or restore to normal what seems to be broken.

I would say a good start to working on the Emotional and Spiritual aspects would come through deep meditation. Talk to yourself and listen for your answers. You could also involve Clergy for the Spiritual aspects.

The Mental would come through a evaluation or aid of a professional, such as a Psychiatrist or Psychoanalyst. They could help you find the root of the problem.

Balance is what you are striving for. A Balanced life is a "contented" life!  

So it took 4 days to conclude something is "off balance" and that meditaion is a way to go. Isn't opening chakras a metaphor for balancing yourself physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually? There was no need for me to write things I did.

Anyway, so back to the start and original post. Can I have the questions answered now?

"For meditation itself, how do you do it? Do you go outside or stay inside, do you sit on floor or something soft, do you listen to some sounds/music or not, do you think about things or do you clear your mind?"