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just woke up from a nap, as soon as I realized i was looking at a page in a book during my dream I immediately became lucid and all efforts went into reading the text. it was surprisingly easy, and actually made sense, although it was contextual to the dream i was in and dont remember what it said. i woke up to write it down immediately, and i did, but now i realize that was a false awakening. HA. what i did notice though was that i found difficulty comprehending the text, what parts i wasnt immediately focused on were blurry, and when i re read a paragraph to see if it was consistent it of course had changed, but the text was still related

thought there may be a few of you who are interested to know this considering that myth syaing you cant read in your dreams

i had an interesting dream last night. in this dream i was repeatedly projecting out of my body, i was clearly in some sort of a dream scape as there was a fictional story line going on, but the experience was none the less pretty damn cool. i remember flying down to the earth's surface from the stratosphere as fast as possible, and flying around these vast cities propped up on angular slabs that would rotate and revolve around eachother to form patterns are create gravity

similar experiences of dreaming about obes?

Hmm, thanks for the input, makes sense. While were on the subject... Does anyone else feel cold when the vibrations hit? It feels like My body is zapped of all energy, even heat

strange thing it is... i remember the first time i felt the vibrations, they were incredibly intense, felt like my back was arching, then i was out. simple. but theyve become progressively more difficult to induce, and weaker when they do occur. same hting has happened with my experiences during phasing, during the first couple months of practice i had some pretty wild experiences, seeing my room around me with my eyes shut and stuff like that. the experiences got progressively weaker with time, and led me to give up for over a year, im just starting to practice again

im having problems with the vibrational stage... first of all i seem to be nearly unable to induce body asleep mind awake, but i imagine thats just an issue of concentration and practice... what really gets my goat is that i will often wake in the middle of the night in the midle of the vibrational stage. the vibrations, however, are considerably weak, and i find it difficult to enhance them in any way, i can feel the astral body slowly shifting around, and with incredible mental effort can maybe move an arm or a leg...

similar experiences? suggestions?

omniscience means to know everything there is to be known at once.... that requires serious spiritual disciplen over the cvourse of many lifetimes

its a matte of telekenisis. one who moves objects in the physical is actually half out of phase, that it, theyre aware of the astral. they actually move the astral counterpart to the object rather than the physical.

i suppose if your mind is well trained and oyu put enough energy into creating an object, it could be done.

hmm, this sounds likely, ill loook for the article on the website

wow i heard that if you have sex with a demon that you will die in the physical world is this true!?!?
well even if it isnt im not taking any chances and how can i tell if its a demon or a person? do i try to hurt it and if it gets hurt its a demon? and if it doenst get hurt its another person?

not gonna lie. thats some silly excrement

ok so im kinda confused about htis one.. definetaly felt like an out of body experience. but it had many dream like qualities.

ok so i woke up at 6 to do a WBTB and before i fell asleep i started feeling the vibes. i woke up (or so it would seem) in a movie theater, a movie was playing on the screen. it was irrelevant. anyways, i was lying down in the same position as i was in my bed (on my stomach). my vision was not blurry or distorted like it might be in a dream, and i had the exact same consciousness as i did when in the bed.

heres what really throws me off. it would seem that i was in a dream, but i didnt have dream type consciousness. i was consciously trying to project in the theater, i knew that i was lying down, trying to project. i was not watching myself do this. the same consciousness that was I lying in the bed, was trying to project in the movie theater. it was as if i were still in my bed with my eyes open, but the images of the theater were overlapping my vision, i was there. but i didnt realize i was in a dream. had i realized i wasi n a dream i wouldve simply flew through the ceiling.

so anyways, im in this theater, and im feeling the vibes, making them stronger every time before they fade for a short while.

theres another part here that requires some explanation

you know when youre meditating? and you can all of a sudden percive the blackness in front of your eyes as 3d? it requires a subtle mental effort, does it not?

well this is what i did with my vision in the theater. it was as if i wasnt dreaming at all, i was simply lying in bed having an intense vision, and i made everything "snap into 3d" but insteado f going 3d everything simply became more clear. as if my eyes had been obstructing my vision and now i could truely see. and then i willed myself out. and i left my body. i felt nervous, and wanted to see my body so i turned around, i saw my family (they were watching the movie too) but in the seat that i was supposed to be in, there was another body, someone ive never seen before, slumped to the side. they looked like they were out cold. i then faded back into my real body

so, by guess is that this was a vivid vision playing before my eyes, rather than a dream, as i was trying to project. is this how dream work? a projection over your current, like a hologram, and then you leave your body? thoughts? was htis an obe?

youre scared, or at least your body is. its not normal to be conscious of leaving the body. its almost as if its ingrained in our dna that this happens when we die... something to ponder

some people say that the best time to exit is when the vibes fade away, but personally its never worked for me. robert monroe (famous author regarding OBEs) says that the best time it to make the vibes so intense that they become simply a warm tingly feeling. INTENSE vibes are at around 30 pulses per second. you goal is to raise it so high that all you can feel is warm tingling.


but then again im not the most experienced

well ive found that by imagining im feeling something i actually begin to, this has been just as effective as visualization for me

does it help at all?

ive recently discovered how easily energy work comes to me, so if it worth my while im gonna do some reading. what do you guys htink? does it help your chances of a projection?

i never get any vibrations during meditation either, i find i have to be lying on my side, literally trying to fall asleep in just the right conditions. i guess its just harder for some people.

perhaps we are too focused on the meditation to be meditating properly? meditation is a tricky thing, you can do all the reading on it you want but to figure out what it acutally IS takes time and practice

read robert monroes journeys out of body. the end of the book has a section all about how to astral project and i found it VERY helpful. i manage to induce the vibrations every day now

i sometimes get an intense pressure in the palms of my hands, like they have hooks through them and theyre being pulled on. if i remember correctly, these are energy blockages being released

lucky bugger

i would love to be able to run like that but my movement is very restricted, i think i need to work on moving my energy body around more before i project again

i have had a few very vivid dreams where im trying to project, each one was somewhat successful. also, during attempts i have had dream like halucinations, mostly of family members coming into my room (through the locked door) and watching me attempt.

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someone must know

i managed to reach the vibrational stage twice today once i nthe early morning, and another during mmy afternoon nap. in the morning i was able to move, with alot of effort. to move during hte vibrations i usually have to rock back and forth to build enough momentum to shoot away from my body, and even then i only get a few feet before i phase back into the physical. sometimes im lucky enough to have enough energy to roll over, in which case i easily leave my body, but again i phase back in quickly. the second time (in the afternoon) i hardly had enough energy to even try to build momentum.

i eat alot better than most people, and i get daily excercise. i have a good job and little to no stress. so none of those are factors

so my questions are, how can i increase the length and strength of hte vibrational stage? and why is it so hard for me to move?

also, i can never see when i leave, this morning, with alot of concentration i was able to see my wall that was 6 inches in front of my nose, and a strange smokey ubstance in the air.

detaching is becoming easier and easier, but im blind when i do. i can only "sense" my envoronment", any tips on how to see in the astral world?

ah, sort of like twisting a small piece of metal til it snaps, thanks