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Hi xXTerra-StormXx

You got it xXTerra-StormXx  !

I will keep at it no matter what.

Wish you and your baby all the best in 2008 

Richard

HI xXTerra-StormXx

Thanks for quick response

Sounds like traditional Chakra works.Thanks for providing the great detail of the technique  
I will start work on it tonight.

Many thanks!
Richard

Hi xXTerra-StormXx

I have read your instruction just now.Your experiences are absolutely awesome! I really wish i could do that....

Your experience is similar as people who have awaken their Kundalini energy,like Gopi Krishna.I ponder that you must had
pronounced spiritual breakthru during past life,maybe that is why you didn't experience many struggle to obtain those ability.

People like me who don't hv any talent in this area,would undergo a lot of trial and error and training to get to that stage .

In order to connect to universal energy,should I meditate on immense space surrounding my body,or focus on this
intangible energy around me?Do you have any suggestion?

Thanks
Richard

If you tend to fall asleep when practicing I suggest you try in the morning about 2 hours before you're supposed to wake up (if it's not too disruptive) so you don't take too long to enter trance and can be more aware of your changing states.

Hi CFTraveler

thanks for your advice   I will wake up ealier every morning(but I won't give up evening training,lol, becos i can't wait any longer for my first OBE experience)

Meanwhile I will keep a positive mind toward training.

Thanks again

Richard

From my experiences 3D blackness is the in between world. when my eyes are closed i see it permanently, and the astral beings prefer to sit in there to talk, and from there i can move up to any of the astral realms just by thinking it up while awake. It (3D blackness) came when the universal energies started showing up in my vision, like seeing energy in high definition everywhere. maybe you should focus on the universal energies first and making it thick in your vision so when you close your eyes the 3d blackness is already there.
oh yeah, hi guys i'm new, but from another forum, thought i'd come in for a nosey, lol.

HI xXTerra-StormXx,

You mean you can see 3-dimentional blackness right after you close your eyes? wow,thats pretty cool.

I got few questions for you:
1) Are you a natural APer or reach this level by doing lot of practice? I consider myself as a zero talent guy in OBE stuff.

2) Is the universal energies you talking about is same as so called SOURCE energy,or prana?Its sounds like the primordial energy mentioned in Taoism. Since it is intangible and very abstract to me. Do you meditate on this energy based on your imagination first? I mean,as a beginner, How do I focus on this Unversal energy and what do I supposed to do?

3) I found that different people use different way to perceive 3d blackness.Your way is relatively special,and based
on your statement, can I assume that you can reach 3d blackness state without enter trance or mind awake/body asleep stage?
Actually my ideal toward astral project is people should project to astral world anytime and anywhere they want,instead of only project at night time by using 'wake up earlier' method.

Your faithfully
Richard

 Hi xXTerra-StormXx and CFTraveler,

Thanks for valuable advices. I will work hard on this.I found that i easily fell into asleep during excercise sessions. Master
astral projection is really an art.Hope one day I meet you guys up there

Thanks
Richard

Hi Dear CFTraveler and Angelo

Thanks for fast response

Really appreciate your advices. Yeah,I agree that different people experiences 3d blackness
differently.

I think I should put more practices on trance, use "focus inward" to tune away from the physical.

Thanks a lot

Richard

Hi everyone

After I read many post on forum,I notice that 3D Blackness is worked as a portal to astral world. I usually see images behind my eyelids,
but I couldn't reach 3D blackness state.(normally I just wait there until i lost awareness and fell into asleep,ie,i couldn't reach the stage of seperation or phasing)

Now I am using Birm's triangle method,I found that this technique is pretty good as it can put me into focus10 state quite easily,but I haven't experienced 3d blackness yet.

Can you guys talk about when and how to reach 3d blackness? and is there any good technique can help people like me to induce 3D blackness state.

thanks for your guidance and help!

Richard

hi,dear Robert,I'm Richard.I email to you for few times,thans for reply.Today i just buy ur Astral Dynamics on amazon.com: )



I've interested in Kundalini for few years and have a stong feeling that i have to achieve something very important in Yoga.

Now there is a trouble and a contradiction in my mind:like ur said, Kundalini needs to be developed, It is energy dependent, just like the OBE or Vision Screen states. I agree with u! engery is everything. But,if a young man pursues,can he get marry or have a girlfriend?Is sexual behavior release engergy or qi?

Last year,i did breathe excercise for 5 months,try to store vital energy in my base chakra,my chaka start vibrate more than 1000 times eveyday.But i made a mistake:I release all my engergy(becos my girlfriend,hehe).So,5 months effort was gone.I think the success or failure of the kundalini may really depends on the individual who can control his behavior,he must have a strict discipline,right?

I read ur article about Kundalini on forum today.I also read the book written by Gopi Krishna.But i still not very clear about how to work on chakra and which chakra is crucial to arousal of Kundalini.Can u give me some suggestions or some method about this?and i also have few questions:What is the relationship between the Kundalini and sex energy? Is sex engery must be saved for Kundalini?How should  i know that my base chakra has been fully developed?Is it has any symptom? which posture do u choose for meditation,lie on the bed(i used to lie on the bed but always fell into sleep) or sit on the chair?

Thank you very much and take care,Robert!

quote:Originally posted by Lynfer

I have gained understanding from Robert Bruce's reply that one should first pursue energetic development(NEW- my preference) and OBE before going on to kundalini.
 I discovered through personal experience myself the most effective way to practice NEW or any energetic development you are pursuing.
Trance/Relaxation. I find that after I stay in a deeply/fully relaxed state while keeping a quiet mind - I experience spontaneous energetic movement.
 In short- after a trance-linke state of being some enrgetic development is made. And even during a trance or trance-like state, energy is easily manipulated.
 As well I find that after and during this state- spontaneous emotional and mental healing occurs. I have not yet experienced physical healing as I am it seem s in good physical condition.
 But, one's healing and energetic abilities are expanded after a while.
 To sum it up- during a trance, relaxed(mentally and physically), or trance-like state, spontaneous energetic development can be made even without one's conscious effort(although that helps). And to further it, Other capabilities are temporarily expanded.
I hope this sheds some light![]

I agree with you Lynfer,Trance is a shortcut to energy development,and very effective,but the problem is go into trance is not quiet easy,if we get too tired at daytime,we will fall into sleep while doing trance.Now i am still thinking how to go into trance more easily.

Thanx fallnangel![]I will check it out!

Best regards!

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You can cultivate and store your sexual energy instead of expelling it during sex, which could have a very positive benefit in development in my opinion. Plus you will still keep the girlfriend happy. []
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hi,fallnangel,you provide a good idea,would you give me some detailed information?thanx[]

[]Hello everyone.Thanks Mr Robert.
First of all,i would like to thanks James S make my topic as sticky topic,thus let more people to focus on Kundalini.And also thanks AlphaOmega's and Jon_88s reply.As we known the Kundalini is most powerful and mysterious human evolution method in the world.Like AlphaOmega metioned in the topic,i was waiting for Mr Bruce's reply for almost 2 week(almost sent email 3 times and also post my question on the forum).Finally he gave us a wonderful reply...

If u want to activate your kundalini,first i think most of us should focus on NEW energy system,becos I think this is the most basic level in the whole process.Energy is simply everything.

I have a little disagreement with Mr Bruce's reply.I believe that sexual energy play a crucial role in thr Kundalini development.When you are doing engergy development works,your sexual behavior must be strictly forbidden during this period,otherwise you are wasting ur life and time.
The ordinary people which never do energy works,their engery spead over whole body.But after u have done energy development works,all energy gathering in your major storage center.IF you release it in sexual behavior,it can be harmful to you-becos it can be release too much energy in one time,and you have to spent more time than ordinary people to recover to a normal body energy level.

My point is that no matter sexual engergy or digestion engergy,that are the same energy and comes from the same source,the only difference is your body use them in different ways.Our body energy storage system just like a battery,provide energy to various of channels,such as eyes,brain,sexual organ...

Another thing is crucial to kundalini is that your life must be organised in a strict discipline.This sounds irrelative to Kundalini.

The secret of Kundalini,only few can tell in the world...I believe everybody is a seed of god.Tell yourself,impossible is nothing.Lets help each other and put more effort.

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Who reveals the truth about God,and who comes from the Father.

hi,Tayesin,you are most welcome! Lets help each other[][8D]

hi guys,today Mr Robert just reply me and answer my question,now i share his reply to everyone,hope this can help you also:(thanks Mr Robert again!)

G'day!

The base center is the most important one to work on for kundalini.

Sex will not disempower you unless you believe it will. Sex is actually very
balancing, which will help you achiever higher altered states. Celibacy is
not a good idea unless the desire to be celibate comes from within. A person
may 'believe' they have to be celibate, but unless this urge comes from
within and is truly what that person wants, then it will unbalance them
through frustration.

The sex chakra can become involved in energy work, but this is not a
desirable thing as its way too distracting. Its best to work around this
center.



Here's something I have handy to cut in on kundalini.

Take care, Robert.




6) What fundamental purpose does raising the Kundalini serve?

>Good question(s).  Keep in mind that my answers come from personal
experience and observations, not from books. I've read very little about
kundalini.

The activation of the kundalini circuit can be likened to how a larvae
converts into a butterfly.  One does not grow pretty wings, but some fairly
dramatic changes occur.  The successful raising of kundalini gives birth to
a whole new bio energy circuit. In a way, all primary chakras activate and
begin working together to generate the new circuit.

The major changes occur during a raised kundalini session, which can last
from ten to 30 minutes, or maybe even longer with more training.  This is a
most profound state. I'll post something on this in a minute, to save me
typing it all out again.

But once kundalini has been raised once, the whole energy body begins to
reorganize itself. What exactly happens is difficult to ascertain but the
energy body seems to start growing and developing towards what will become a
new 'normal' state of being.

6a) Why would one want to do it and who (what type of person) would want to
do it?

Raising kundalini involves taking a big step in spiritual evolution. It is
possible that this could free one from the reincarnational mechanism of
life, and set one on a new path of evolution, the path of the masters. I
think ascension to becoming a living master is possible through kundalini.

Also, one of the most noticeable things that happens is that during raised
kundalini state, ones higher self manifests very strongly through you. You
virtually become your higher self, but still retain your human personality.
Bathed in the sacred Aummm, ones connection to God is extremely noticeable
and real.

All psychic abilities begin to grow stronger after kundalini has been
raised. And they are fully active during raised kundalini state.

I suspect that once developed (fully medusa effect and beyond) the power of
creation may become normal. But I also suspect that some knowledge of magic
and words of power and creation would also be required. Then whatever is
imagined will appear in the physical. Basically, one transcends and gains
control over the physical environment.

So, yes, spiritual immortality is possible. Physical immortality may also be
possible, if the energy flow out of the body can be reversed, eg, so one
grows younger at will. These things all need exploring. And I plan to do
just this.

7) In relation to item 3), at what level of development is one ready to undertake the exercises of Kundalini
raising?

I am still pondering the question of this criteria. But a high level of development is most certainly required.

One needs a strong and balanced mind, and a balanced personality and
emotions, and a reasonably heathy body. The demands of raising kundalini are
great. Full power real time OBE or high level projection are very easy in
comparison. So astral projection should, ideally, be mastered first. And
mastering astral projection in itself is a good indicator that one is ready
to raise kundalini. I think I just answered my own question.

However, some untrained people can OBE quite easily. So I'd say a
combination of at least a trained mind (through yoga or similar) and astral projection ability would be a good starting point.

Age may play a factor, too. One may need to be at least 30 before this can be done. But I need to experiment more to clarify this factor.


8 ) Are there various degrees of experience in Kundalini raising? I
understand some people have their crown chakras opened up for minutes or
hours after the experience, while others have them opened for many months at
a time. Does this mean one experience was more powerful than the other?

This depends on whether kundalini was actually raised, or whether we are
talking about strong chakra activation, or kundalini related phenomena being
involved.

There are various ways kundalini can rise, but the end result is the full
snake like phenomenon, which I'll describe in another post.

Today, a great many energy body phenomena and kundalini related activity are
taken for actual raised kundalini. It can be very confusing. But there is
only one main event; the snake.


9) Is there a point to raising the Kundalini more than once? Are the
experiences different in what is learned/gained every time?

Once kundalini is raised it must be developed and raised many times before
it fully grows. I have not gone past the full medusa and Aumm stage, but I
plan to get back into training very soon. It gets easier to do every time
its done.  In time, the fully raised state would replace normal meditation
and etc. This seems reasonable expectation.

Also, raising kundalini many times seems to help the enlightenment process,
which is a staggered affair; one step at a time.

10) What is gained by having the crown chakra opened during and after
Kundalini raising? What can one do with an opened crown chakra that they
normally can't do when it is closed, or less opened?

I'm not really sure about this as I've not experienced this. One also has to
define exactly what is meant by 'open'. Chakras are not like little doors
that can be opened and closed with some imagination and good intentions.
They are always active, but there are levels of activation. So an open crown
could jsut be a more active than ususal crown. This would cause some psychic
abilities to manifest.

A lot of problems can surround overactivation of the crown center. An
overactive crown can drain one of energy, so energy cannot be accumulated.
It just gets sucked up through the crown. Possession and various mental
problems can also be linked with this problem.

11) What are some of the things people report that they experience during
the Kundalini raising? Are they all fairly similar in theme, or are the
experiences vastly different? (e.g. traveling through tubes of light?,
seeing past lives?)

Yes, the experiences are fairly similar. Kundalini spikes up through the
spine are the norm. A blinding flash of white light in the minds eye, a
powerful OBE or near death experience. Some kind of examination by masters
or deities. I've not experienced past lives but this may be possible in some
cases. Travelling through a tube of light may also happen in some cases.

The variety of experiences may be caused by differences in development and
in the energy body, and by the age of the incarnating spirit, eg, spiritual
maturity, etc.

12) In relation to item 6), what is the ULTIMATE goal of Kundalini raising,
assuming it is a process that requires multiple experiences to reach an
ultimate goal.

I think the ultimate goal is to become a physically immortal master. But I
need to explore all this further.

I may have a way to safely train people using something new. This is
experimental but it may work. Kundalini can be raised in the pre OBE
vibrational state. I've done this and its quite easy. If one does not need
to raise kundalini fully first, it may be possible to train people to
cleanse and condition the kundalini snake pathway with a lower level of
energy than what normally occurs during the main event.

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There is widespread misunderstanding about kundalini. Most seem to
think its a raise once and its done kind of thing. But this is not the case
at all. Kundalini is a discrete bioenergy phenomenon, much like a sneeze or
an orgasm. One could not say after a single orgasm that ones orgasm is now
raised and active. Neither could one say that after a single kundalini
raising, or related phenomena, that ones kundalini is now raised. Kundalini
must be raised many times and developed.

A single kundalini raised experience may last from 5 to 30 minutes. Longer
may be possible with higher development. The raised state is heavily energy
dependent, so when energy resources are reduced it just stops. But while it
is raised one becomes God, in a sense. Ones personality is still present,
but ones higher self rises very close to the surface indeed. And ones higher
self is about as close to God as one can get. So raised kundalini could be
called a full higher self manifestation.

The psychic abilities this causes are the natural abilities of a spirit, and
of ones higher self. They are not created out of nothing, they are freed.

Kundalini does change one and one does experience enlightenment during its
peak. But this is abstract enlightenment, eg, one knows everything at the
time because one is experiencing a level of God consciousness. But after the
experience one reverts to normal consciousness and knowledge. However,
something is then changed and ones inspirational abilities, plus all psychic
abilities, are greatly enhanced.

Then begins the staggered realization process where higher knowledge is
gained one small step at a time. But this progressive gaining of knowledge
will only bear true fruit if one has a sound belief system, and if one
applies the empirical process, eg, first build a solid foundation and then
add to it one thing at a time. If this discipline is not applied one is
likely to float away with the faries.

There are three main ways that kundalini will rise. The first is
spontaneously, in response to mental and emotional and spiritual states of
being, eg, Carl Jung had a spontaneous kundalini rising. The second is
through yoga practice where the body and mind are developed to the point
where kundalini will rise naturally. The third is to manually raise
kundalini by manipulating the energy body with body awareness techniques.
Ideally, a combination of all three would provide the best and safest
results.

To do this, one must first understand the nature of primary energy centers,
chakras, and the base center. A fundamental aspect of the base center is
that it acts a lot like an electrical capacitor. It is also heavily shielded
and earthed, in a bioenergy sense. Another aspect of chakras is their
ability to 'strobe'. This is a natural high level function. Once a chakra's
energy peaks, reaches critical mass, it strobes and releases all its energy
in one moment. The natural path for this energy is upwards, and as it floods
upwards it creates new high voltage energy conduits, and flash activates the
chakras above one at a time. This last can happen in several ways, depending
on how prepared the energy body is, but there is only one raised kundalini
phenomenon, eg, the full internal snake phenomenon.

When kundalini rises, it feels like a physical snake as thick as a man's
wrist forces its way up through the perenium; between anus and genitals. It
forces its way in 3.5 clockwise spiral up through the body. Ones internal
organs will be felt sloshing and moving as they are pushed out of the way,
as kundalini raises through the body, neck and head to the crown.

The internal snake phenomenon is caused by an internal manifestation of
ectoplasm. This is the only reasonable explanation.

A brilliant minds eye flash of light (like a giant camera flash) will occur
at the beginning of a kundalini raising. This leaves a feeling of mild
concussion on the face, as if one had been slapped. This is because the
whole face contains the support structure for the brow chakra, and is thus
involved with the brow center strobe. Note that the brow center strobe can
occur seperately from a kundalini event, eg, during the formation of the
vision screen of high function clairvoyance (what could be called a
Nostradamus level phenomena). Brow center strobes can also result from
various practices, including meditation and astral projection exercises. If
this happens, it indicates strong natural clairvoyance potential is present,
even if dormant and unrealized.

Normally the crown and brow will not fully activate during early kundalini
raising events. But once these activate it feels like ones skull vanishes
and from the surface of ones brain hundreds of fat, fleshy fingers, like
little snakes, are felt to appear. These feel as real as ones other fingers.
At this time, the brow fuses with the crown the one in the nose bridge, and
this new chakra structure is felt as a heavy, fleshy flap hanging down over
ones brow and bridge of nose. This feels as if ones skull (the entire area
above the hair line) has turned into a sea anenome.

These fingers (I think the eastern term is petals) respond instantly to
thought. If one things of any concept, the fingers form intricate geometric
patterns. I think this may be where mandallas come from. Note, if you read
the book 'Secret of the Golden Flower', in the commentary by Jung, he
explains that mandallas are resident in the human psyche in all races. I highly recommend this book.

Another interesting phenomenon here is that if one thinks of a living
person, these fingers form a pattern, but some also point to 'where' this
person is in the real world.

In order to raise kundalini, one must repeatedly raise a lot of energy to
the base center. Most of what is raised immediately leaks away, is earthed
away. But if this practice is continued, there comes a
point where the insulation is burned away and the base strobes. The first
symptom of this is a massive kundalini spike up through the spine. This can
be extremely painful, burning and electrical sensations. It is wise to stop
for a breather at this point, but without breaking relaxation discipline.

Note that if the body is not prepared by fasting and purging beforehand, the
bowels will turn to water and let go in response to full physical shock.
Now, if one begins raising energy again a minute or so later, another spike
will occur, just as strong but a bit less painful, and then the serpent will
be released. Ideally it will rise fairly rapidly and smoothly all the way to
the crown, in 3.5 clockwise coils.

I recommend 3 days fasting prior to an attempt, or other yoga purging practices can be used to achieve the same internally cleansed state. I find my energy peaks on the 3rd day. This helps as one needs every ounce of energy one can muster to raise kundalini.

A type of near death experience will usually occur. I don't have enough data
to say for sure, but this is a reasonable observation. In my case, I was
evicted from my physical body (I think it died of shock) and, in brief, I
was examinied by three deities (or ascended masters). Two shook their heads
and retired, but the third came down and helped me. He showed me my errors
and how to rectify my problems through spiritual cleansing (not physical).

When Kundalini has been more developed, eg, raised a dozen or so times (a week apart for each event is wise), and the crown becomes fully active, one will also experience the Aummmm. This is quite loud and if feels and sounds like the word 'Aummm' being said continually (one tone) by a man with a deep voice. This, I think, may be the underlaying sound (or Word) of creation.

Warning:  This subject must be approached with great care and respect. This is a long term goal, a lifetimes work. Raising kundalini is a dangerous thing to do. And the less prepared and developed a person is, the more dangerous it becomes. Madness and or death can result, as can a variety of serious physical and mental disorders, if one who is unprepared does this. As said, master wake induced OBE first, as this is not only a more achievable goal, but it also helps prepare one for higher levels of energy body activation and kundalini.


Take care, Robert