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If this is true I'm gong Star Wars. Time to use the Force!

Let me start by saying, this is a very interesting conversation! Thank you all for sharing:)

I've been reading Tom's Big TOE for some time now, bit by bit, so I don't get too overwhelmed.

I've got only one comment after reading this threat: perspective! We tend to approach ideas from human (i.e. intellectual) point of view and therefore it may be difficult to grasp intellectually some aspects of Big TOE. Intellect is only one of the tools that can be used to explore reality. There is so much more beyond that and using intellect to understand everything would be like applying Newton's laws on the quantum level: it simply doesn't work this way.

I wish all of us openness of the heart in exploration of the realities that don't belong to this world:)

That's a good one but we go to the mountains and weather is unpredictable there. Besides, my experience with forecast in Sydney is that it predicts the opposite what actually happens:)

I'm about to run a workshop about consciousness and I wonder if you could recommend some easy experiments we could do as a group or individual to demonstrate the power of intent and focus. The one that changes probability of a random event would be a good one. I plan, just for fun, run the experiment that Rob Monroe describes in his book i.e. with the lights manifested above the hotel where thy were performing tests.

Unfortunately, I don't have much time to prepare (i.e. made props), so the simpler the experiments the better.

As always thank you for your help. Astral Pulse is for me a constant source of information and amazement.

Thank you Rainbow for your message. They say that misery needs company, which in this case means that I'm happy to share with someone my struggle. If I make my attempts sounds easy then I'm not making myself clear. It's a big effort and if there's a way to go around it, I'd love to hear it. For now I'll stick to what works for me and thanks again for the support.

At this stage I try pretty much every night with little effect. That's the way it is, I guess and I accepted it. To response to a couple of your threads Rainbow let me say:

->> Intention is everything to me, to stronger (i.e more focused, more pure) intention the better results. I do written intentions and mental ones.
->> binaural beats work only if I have a strong intention (I used Condition D, Journeys Out of the Body)
->> after reading a response like yours, i feel much more motivated and this gives me the best results. Reading have the same result. It almost feels like, the increased energy level (excitement) translates into vibrations. I want to make one thing clear; this does not mean I stay exited during the process, it only applies to my motivation.

Good luck with further attempts:) Keep me posted and I do the same.

Happy projecting:)

I'd like to report some progress in my OBEs. I spent 3 weeks in Malaysia, which i though is going to be a perfect, relax destination for some juicy OBEs. Nothing kills the actual experience more then your expectations:) Nothing happened during that time, mostly because I didn't have much time to try or didn't give myself enough rest before an attempt. Upon my return things has changed and I want to report another OBE/LD or vice versa. My LD was so real! Only walking through walls and doors made me realise it's a dream. The same night I also had an OBE. I felt very strong vibrations and jerked myself out of the body. The projection didn't last long but I was able to see myself sleeping on the bed. I wonder if rapid moving out of body may contribute to low quality of the projection. Next time I promised myslef to be more gentle and check if this method is going to work better. What are your experiences with the moving out-of-body? I understand this is a very personal experience but perhaps I you could share some tips.

At this point i try pretty much every night. Before I go to bed i start with written affirmations. On the night of projections I listened to Condition D from Journeys Out of the Body. I don't want to be dependent on aids with my OBEs, that's why I try not to use Binural Beats. On the other hand I think to myself, once I master the technique with an aid I will drop it and move on without it. Once again, I'd like to hear your opinions if I may.

Happy projecting:)

While I grump and complain, I also have a philosophical understanding that all is as it should be.  People have lessons to learn and this seems to be the way they do it.  I am learning to stop being judgmental and to accept that others have their path for a reason.

I just had a similar conversation with a friend of mine who naturally has OBEs and talks to entities (i.e. guides and angels). We tend to use our small perspective on how the things should be. We seem unhappy but many people succeed in the system like this, therefore it must be working. Although it may seem that things are going to the dogs, it's a work in progress. We are not there yet, and judging the day before the dawn may be unwise. This is my personal opinion; an opinion of extremely grumpy and judgmental individual

Thank you Guys for words of encouragement.

A quick question. From your experience, is it advisable to OBE every night i.e. get up at 3 am and practice for an hour or would you rather suggest different regime?

Usually I don't use icons but what the heck    :-

I had my first OBE last night; a couple of hours ago in fact. Since this suppose to be a log, let me start from the beginning.

Before I went to bed I sat down to write some affirmations. Normally I just write something like "I now have an out-of-body experience". This time I started with allowing myself for the experience as advised by one of you guys. I had a feeling that something, a fear is holding me back from having the experience. I did a couple of those and a regular "I feel safe, secure and protected". I also said it out loud to involve not only vision but hearing as well. I thought the more channels of communication you involve the stronger the message.

I set up alarm for 2 am, which meant around 3h of sleep. Falling asleep I repeated some affirmations. I woke up as planed, feeling very sleepy. Went to the bathroom to empty my bladder. Came back and made a strong commitment to don't use any method inspired by the previous post by Rainbow. My mind wondered many times but I kept going. I realized that my mind becomes more and more awake whilst not paying any attention to my body. There were of course ups and downs but I kept going. After some time (not sure how long but it seemed like anything between 30 min and an hour), I decided to call the night. I turned from my back to the side (my usual sleeping position) and try to fall asleep. I maintained some level of lucidity but eventually fell asleep. I had a dream in which I'm running on the beach, having a race of some sort. I realized that it's a dream and I can run as fast as I want and easy outrun anyone next to me. So I did. The sense of freedom plus the control felt great. Soon after I felt overwhelming vibrations and I thought this is it. The vibrations were strong but warm and soft at the same time. Then I just got up and found myself above my bed floating. It felt as if I'm suspended in sirup, slow but light and free. There was no fear but great comfort. I tryed to shout but no voice came out. Surprisingly it didn't matter. It didn't startled me, I felt calm and confident. I looked at my bed trying to find myself there. I only saw a silver lining around my bed but no signs of my phisical body. My vision wasn't very clear and it didn't matter at this stage. I did the only reasonable thing I could think of: a big time, cheerful dance to celebrate my success. I didn't care about anything, I experience a great sense of joy and calmness at the same time. Very curious. I felt this was IT, and nothing else mattered at that point. Although my discription indicates that it may have taken me a long time to perform this, it was only 20-30 seconds to this point. The next obvious thing that occur to me was: let's go flying! So I did. I turned around and jumped through the wall, a superman style! I went through the wall no problems and then when I returned to my body. Happy and satisfied with my first experience. Big smile!!! After a couple of minutes I decided to get up and recorded everything in my journal so I don't loose anything by the time I wake up.

This is it! This is my first OBE. thank you all for your support. Thank you Rainbow for the motivation. Thank you for the sense of community.   

Hey Rainbow, thanks for the post. I'll try your technique tonight. My problem is, I overanalyse everything. I try to project pretty much every night with less and less result. Apparently trying too hard is as bad as trying too little. I usually give myself 3-4h sleep as well. My alarm is just a very soft music played from iPad when the time comes.

From your description, it seems you are doing pretty well. Keep up and I'll try do the same.

Today I had a realisation. Astral projection is nothing else but switching between one data stream and another. Our consciousness does that all the time: looking at the sky (one data stream), listening to the music (another data stream), watching a movie (another). You've got the idea. For most of the time however we are listening to the Monkey Mind Life Stream, right? We are driving on auto-pilot and monkey mind is our duffle channel or data stream. Since for most of us, focus is a very poorly trained ability (speaking form experience), the choice which stream to choose is made for us. We can direct our awareness wherever we want. The problems is, if we don't choose, if we don't do it consciously, then we receive whatever comes first. Based on this, I believe astral projecting may be as simple as a decision to watch the discovery channel or news. However we are handling our focus so badly that astral projection can be achieved only under special circumstances (i.e. when we are falling asleep and the switching of astral channels occurs whether we want to or not). I remember Tom Campbell saying during one of his lectures. You don't need to experience SP, you don't need to feel vibrations, you just switch your attention from one state to another. Since. I'm clearly not Tom Campbell, I'll keep trying my own way. Nevertheless, the realisation of what I just described may provide a breakthrough I needed.

I'm not even sure if I make sense here but wanted to share this very personal revelation with you guys and ask for your comments. Moving from Believing to Knowing is a big step for me.

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts. I particularly like how calm you express yourself regarding AP and all the process including fear. It gives me confidence to carry on. In one of the other posts I found a comment about focus. Apparently focus is essential to break the barrier. Focus is something that I've struggling a lot lately. In spite of a couple of years if meditation I still find myself awfully distracted during the period my practice. I try not to judge it and just return to the breath or whatever I'm returning to, as I always thought of meditation as a practice of 1000 returns. In case of AP focus seems to be crucial. I'd appreciate if you could share how you are attaining focus in your projections?

Tonight is another chance for me to practice. Thank you again for the word of advice. Thank you for your help. I keep you all posted.

Thank you guys for warm welcome. I resonate strongly with all you have said. Often one needs support, sometimes encouragement, sometime, like myself, a sense of community present and mindful. Let me jump right into it and share my story.

I started around a year ago reading Rob Monroes Classic. As s spiritual person I didn't need much convincing, I only was amazed by the reality that was presented to me; a reality I was not aware of. A search on YouTube lead me to a video with binaural beats and "easy" astral projection. I tryed it, I experience SP and freaked out big time. It stopped me for a while. Fear is a strong anti-motivator. I went back, this time easy. Started reading and exploring different possibilities. I don't have to tell you how fainting were the stories from "the other side". I had a childish, in a good way, desire of exploring those planes, experience it myself. I went to India, spend 2 months in Dharamsala, where I had plenty of time to practice. I also had peace and quiet, which is contrary to what I've got here, even during the night. I've written tons of affirmations and it seems to take me to the right place. By the right place I mean strong vibrations and signs of disconnecting from phisical body. I was never so excited about the perspective of projecting. I believe a strong motivation is very important, at least at the beginning.

Now I'm back home and trying again. Every night 3 am, that's my time. I tried binaural beats, Gateway Experience, listening to people on YouTube (my latest favorite is Tom Cambell). The furthest I've gotten is strong vibrations. I have a feeling that fear plays a big role here. I don't really know how to deal with it except for keep trying.

Just a couple of weeks ago I went to a Lucid Dreaming Meetup Group. Great people, great conversation. One of the guys was interviewed by the organizer and mentioned this forum. I was looking for forums like that before but for some reason never found it. Perhaps I didn't need it then. I clearly need it now! I read through the posts and find inspiration to carry on. I haven't consciously projected yet but experience a couple of times SP, which may indicate that the memory of projection was not downloaded to my physical. I don't know, just speculating. Also another thought crossed my mind. Perhaps it's not the time for me to project as there are so many things to learn here, in the earth system. What do you think guys? I say that because som times I have a desire to escape from the misery of everyday life and how disconnecte people are. I understand that motivation or intention is everything, and escape is not a good one.

I'm looking forward to hearing your input.

Hello fellow travellers, hello rainbow,

Let me starrt off by saying thank you very much for all your efforts. I'm like many of you readers trying to project and looking for support. The information provided here are obviously very useful but let me draw your attention towards something perhaps even more important: COMMUNITY. Some of you may take it for granted but the sense of belonging you create in this forum is as important as a successful OBE. Personally, it feels much easier to carry on knowing that guys like rainbow are going through the same struggle. Sure we get tired sometime, sure we give up. What let us pick up where we left of is the sense of community of people sharing the same important mission: elevating consciousness. And let me tell you, there's no better way to evolve than share your experience with a fellow human being (let alone higher beings on the astral planes:)

From now on I will try to share my own struggle and give full support to those who need it.

Happy projecting!